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Son of Pilot Who Dropped A-Bomb Opposes Plan to Send U.S. Delegation to Hiroshima Ceremony
Fox News ^ | August 4, 2010 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 08/04/2010 12:45:04 PM PDT by Stoat

EXCLUSIVE:  The son of the U.S. Air Force pilot who dropped the first atomic bomb in the history of warfare says the Obama administration's decision to send a U.S. delegation to a ceremony in Japan to mark the 65th anniversary of the attack on Hiroshima is an "unsaid apology" and appears to be an attempt to "rewrite history."

James Tibbets, son of Brig. Gen. Paul W. Tibbets, Jr., says Friday's visit to Hiroshima by U.S. Ambassador John Roos is an act of contrition that his late father would never have approved.

"It's an unsaid apology," Tibbets, 66, told FoxNews.com from his home in Georgiana, Ala. "Why wouldn't it be?  Why would [Roos] go? It doesn't make any sense.

"I know it's the anniversary, but I don't know what the hell they're trying to do. It needs to be left alone. The war is over."

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James Tibbets, son of Brig. Gen. Paul W. Tibbets, Jr., seen here, says Friday's visit to Hiroshima by U.S. Ambassador John Roos is an act of contrition that his late father would never have approved.

1 posted on 08/04/2010 12:45:09 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

...just Odumbo’s way of “reducing” America in history.


2 posted on 08/04/2010 12:48:30 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Stoat

Why the hell would we apologize?

The attacked us.

We ended it.

(sorry they were upset about our monopoly on oil but that’s life)

BTW, if you do it again, we’ll be back.


3 posted on 08/04/2010 12:50:56 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Stoat

The bombs saved millions of Japanese lives in addition to the American lives saved. Not that they’d ever admit it.


4 posted on 08/04/2010 12:52:17 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Stoat
When I visited the USS Arizona Memorial in Hawaii a few years back (1990's) I was struck (astounded,actually) by how many Asians there were there...many of whom appeared to be older.I don't know if they were Japanese but it seems likely that many were partly because Hawaii was a *huge* tourist destination for the Japanese back then.As I was there one thing I wondered was "are they here out of some sort of shame or remorse or is it a victory lap for them?"

Obviously I don't know the answer to that,but....

5 posted on 08/04/2010 12:54:28 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: Stoat

Rape of Nanking
Pearl Harbor
Bataan Death March


6 posted on 08/04/2010 12:57:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Will must be the harder, courage the bolder, spirit must be the more, as our might lessens.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
...When I visited the USS Arizona Memorial in Hawaii a few years back (1990's) I was struck (astounded,actually) by how many Asians there were there...

You didn't see a Shinto shrine there did you?

Stop the 911 Mega Mosque at Ground Zero

7 posted on 08/04/2010 12:58:11 PM PDT by FReepaholic (The problem is they do not fear us.)
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To: Stoat

It appears that, at least in THIS case, the apple didn’t fall too far from the tree. Paul Tibbets was a patriot first and foremost and SO IS HIS SON. He saw through Hussein’s attempt to play politics and apologize to the world for using the bomb and winning the war!!!!


8 posted on 08/04/2010 12:58:15 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Stoat
Paul Schalow, a professor of Japanese at Rutgers University ... speculated that Roos' visit could be a step toward positioning the U.S. to condemn any future use of atomic weapons, perhaps by North Korea.

"If we show some regret of our own use of the weapon, if it happens again, we're in a moral position to criticize," he said. "As of now, we're not in a position to denounce it."

Great critical thinking by one of our esteemed perfessers. We have no moral position to criticize North Korea using the bomb because we used it, even though we used it to stop totalitarianism, and NK would be using it AS totalitarianism.

Hey, wouldn't want to take a moral stand, right perfesser? Gotta go crawling back into the playpen and declare: "all violence is wrong, no matter what the reason."

Which is why this perfesser would never, say, dial 911 in a home invasion, because the cops might be violent to the rapists of his wife and daughters. All violence is wrong. If you resist, the violence is your fault. America hasn't been perfect, so America deserves to be damned and destroyed.

Treasonous communist bastards should be kicked out of the country. Let em go find nirvana somewhere other than the America they loathe so much.

9 posted on 08/04/2010 12:58:31 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Doogle
...just Odumbo’s way of “reducing” America in history.

Without researching the matter and just speaking off the top of my head, as they say, I can't recall a single instance in which Zero has said or done anything that was designed to reinforce or highlight as exceptional (in a positive way) anything about America or American history.

There were a few broad, lukewarm generalizations in speeches which were obviously stated because he felt he had to, but anything of a specific nature has always been focused on denigrating America and marginalizing it in history.

Hopefully, 2010 will herald a grand awakening of patriotism in America and will be an election year much like the Great Flood.

I can hardly wait.

10 posted on 08/04/2010 12:58:54 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

If we had the same criteria and agenda as the mosque at 9/11 ground zero,

the “delegation” would be going to Hiroshima to plant a victory flag.


11 posted on 08/04/2010 1:00:43 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Japan was a big tourist destination back then and post cards of Pearl Harbor were for sale at every souvenir shop. They were used by Japanese pilots to identify their targets. The ones of Battleship Row were of great help to the attack force. Were we asleep or what?
12 posted on 08/04/2010 1:01:30 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Stoat
I know that my dad and the rest of the 94th ID was in the process of getting ready to head to the Pacific theater when they got word of Hiroshima. According to what my dad told me-on many occassions-there wasn't one member of his division that had a problem with the dropping of the bomb. As far as I can tell, these guys would have elected Tibbits President if he'd wanted it.
13 posted on 08/04/2010 1:01:30 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Gay State Conservative
I have no problem with the U.S. sending a delegation, so long as it's clear that they are not there to apologize, but to gloat. Like during the minute of silence (or whatever) instead of bowing their heads, high five and fist pump. Instead of wearing funeral garb, they should wear Hawaiian shirts and shorts and carry highballs with little umbrellas in them.

If called on to speak publicly, say something to the effect, "Was the A-Bomb, like awesome, or what? I mean you guys all wanted to die for Emperor, but when we accepted your proposal, you folded like a cheap umbrella."

14 posted on 08/04/2010 1:02:26 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: Stoat

I am sorry we didn’t drop them on December 8 1941.


15 posted on 08/04/2010 1:03:23 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Gay State Conservative

When I visited the USS Arizona Memorial in Hawaii a few years back (1990’s) I was struck (astounded,actually) by how many Asians there were there...many of whom appeared to be older.I don’t know if they were Japanese but it seems likely that many were partly because Hawaii was a *huge* tourist destination for the Japanese back then.As I was there one thing I wondered was “are they here out of some sort of shame or remorse or is it a victory lap for them?”

Funny you should ask.

In the late 1990’s one of the retired Military guides (Fiske?) who was actually there during the bombing, and who you see on the History Channel, told me that the Japanese tourists come late, when the park is about to close, as to not be the focus of potential anger and or offend the other tourists


16 posted on 08/04/2010 1:03:43 PM PDT by SanFranDan
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To: Talisker

“If we show some regret of our own use of the weapon, if it happens again, we’re in a moral position to criticize,”

I’ll see your 500kt nuclear detonation and raise you a strong denunciation. What drivel.


17 posted on 08/04/2010 1:04:14 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: skimbell

18 posted on 08/04/2010 1:05:04 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: Stoat
I stood under and walked around the Enola Gay at The Air and Space Museum. All I could think of was, thank you Gen. Tibbets, knowing that we have a “balless wonder” in the White House who would never allow great men to do what must be done.
19 posted on 08/04/2010 1:05:34 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: Stoat

They do it because Obama is a weakling, a coward, and the perpetual nancy-boy who got wedgies throughout his school career. FY BO.


20 posted on 08/04/2010 1:05:59 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I visited the museum in Nagasaki that depicts the damage done by the atom bomb. I did it out of interest not remorse or doing a victory lap. I was two years old when we bombed Nagasaki. My father and four of his brothers were in the military including places like Tarawa, Salerno, and Anzio. I am sure some of them would have been involved in any invasion of Japan. I have no problem with our use of the weapon, which cut short the war and saved lives and destruction on all sides.


21 posted on 08/04/2010 1:07:20 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Vendome

“BTW, if you do it again, we’ll be back.”

Today, they’re too busy groping young women on their bullet trains/s;)


22 posted on 08/04/2010 1:08:01 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Talisker

“ditto’s”-Couldn’t say it better


23 posted on 08/04/2010 1:08:24 PM PDT by captbarney
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To: Stoat

This is many things, and it’s a way for Obama to write himself into the history of WWII.

Have I said I hate Obama? I’m sure I must have.


24 posted on 08/04/2010 1:10:30 PM PDT by Gator113 (Beauty will devour the Beast in 2012....)
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To: Stoat

They can spit in our faces on so many other fronts and Americans just sit there and take it, so why not go after our war history, and war heroes?

Americans don’t care anymore, lefty. Go right ahead and apologize for defeating our enemies. It makes perfect nonsense.


25 posted on 08/04/2010 1:12:12 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: Stoat
"Having found the bomb we have used it. We have used it against those who attacked us without warning at Pearl Harbor, against those who have starved and beaten and executed American prisoners of war, against those who have abandoned all pretense of obeying international laws of warfare. We have used it in order to shorten the agony of war, in order to save the lives of thousands and thousands of young Americans. We shall continue to use it until we completely destroy Japan's power to make war. Only a Japanese surrender will stop us."
- Harry Truman, August 9, 1945.

Enough said.
26 posted on 08/04/2010 1:14:31 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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The entire Tibbetts family is owed an apology for even considering an apology to the Japanese! Countless war crimes were committed by the japs in WW11! The bomb stopped it all and saved thousands or more lives. Paul Tibbetts was a hero for braving a plane with such a load and I’m sure suffered for years afterward grappling with such a responsibility.


27 posted on 08/04/2010 1:15:34 PM PDT by albie
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To: Stoat
I met Brig. Gen. Paul W. Tibbets at a presentation/book signing held a few years back in Omaha, at the (then) SAC Museum.

He gave a brief presentation, then just talked a bit. It was very much like listening to stories your granddad would tell you, most not even having anything to do with "the bombing".

I still have the book he signed.

28 posted on 08/04/2010 1:16:22 PM PDT by China Clipper (My favorite animals usually are found next to the rice on my plate.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Hawaii has a huge Japanese population now.


29 posted on 08/04/2010 1:17:08 PM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: skimbell

I remember a teacher in elementary school who said when word got out to the ships that the bomb was dropped, the soldiers danced.


30 posted on 08/04/2010 1:18:43 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Stoat

Unless the US Delegation is going to say, “We’re glad we nuked you guys”, it has no business being there.


31 posted on 08/04/2010 1:19:19 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be a slave...)
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To: Stoat

Unless the US Delegation is going to say, “We’re glad we nuked you guys”, it has no business being there.


32 posted on 08/04/2010 1:19:28 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be a slave...)
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To: archy; snippy_about_it; Calpernia; xzins; SandRat; Cannoneer; Ragtime Cowgirl; stockpirate; ...
Avenge December 7
33 posted on 08/04/2010 1:21:12 PM PDT by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Wife and I visited the Arizona Memorial, the Missouri and the submarine memorial last March.
I would estimate 80 percent of the tourists were young Japanese. They all stayed at one hotel (about a block away from the beach front) and moved by the bus loads, all together. A Japanese woman with a police whistle directed the bus parking and loading.


34 posted on 08/04/2010 1:21:28 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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to mark the 65th anniversary of the attack on Hiroshima

Thought experiment: Based on the conduct of the Japanese military in WWII and its run-up (Nanking, Pearl Harbor, Bataan, general POW and nurse treatment, etc.), if the Japanese High Command had been in possession of their own A-bomb, how long do you think they would have hesitated before using it against U.S. military and civilian personnel?

a) Five minutes.

b) Five seconds.

c) Please don't ask stupid questions.

35 posted on 08/04/2010 1:22:27 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Talisker
Paul Schalow, a professor of Japanese at Rutgers University ... speculated that Roos' visit could be a step toward positioning the U.S. to condemn any future use of atomic weapons, perhaps by North Korea.

"If we show some regret of our own use of the weapon, if it happens again, we're in a moral position to criticize," he said. "As of now, we're not in a position to denounce it."

When we issue an communique to the still-glowing pile of molten debris that was once North Korea, we'll look pretty silly if it includes a denunciation of the use of nuclear weaponry...

36 posted on 08/04/2010 1:28:20 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be a slave...)
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To: albie

You are right about the countless Japanese atrocities, which have been white-washed in Japan.

You are wrong about “suffering” or “grappling” over what he did. Many times people attempted to shame him into apologizing for what he did. His response till the day he died was he would do the same exact thing without hesitation.


37 posted on 08/04/2010 1:32:07 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Stoat

Of course it is a tacit apology. An apology for being America is in order for this administration by reason of slavery prior to 1865.


38 posted on 08/04/2010 1:33:53 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: China Clipper; Stoat; albie
I went to a book signing in Branson, MO

Tibbets, Ferebee and Van Kirk were there.

I thanked Tibbets for what they did. Very humbly he replied "we would like to think we made a difference".

39 posted on 08/04/2010 1:37:46 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: Stoat

Gen. Curtis LeMay’s firebombing killed a lot more Japanese than the nukes. They were too indoctrinated in the warrior cult to surrender then. My family is here today because of Tibbets. My Father-in-law was slated to be among the first troops to invade mainland Japan. Expected casualties 500,000=1,000,000


40 posted on 08/04/2010 1:48:19 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: Talisker

This has a European spin to it.
“If you’re the victim of a robbery, you’re partly responsible because you owned too much stuff.”


41 posted on 08/04/2010 1:59:46 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Stoat

Next up a shrine for Emperor Hirohito at Pearl Harbor overlooking the USS Arizona in the interests of diversity and tolerance.


42 posted on 08/04/2010 2:03:51 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Stoat

Did the Japanese apologize for the slaughtering of civilians in Manila Phillipines? (when we were liberating that city)

In Nanking China?

They SLAUGHTERED children All OVER the pacific by bayoneting them, because they didn’t want to “waste” ammunition.

FU the Japanese. They are lucky we did’t drop the damn thing on top of the Imperial Palace!!


43 posted on 08/04/2010 2:10:39 PM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: Stoat

My Father would have likely been one of those sent in with any invasion force. I sometimes wonder if he would have survived an assault on Japan.

Thanks to men like Tibbets, my Father and thousands of other like him lived to go on with their lives and build their families.

It is very humbling.


44 posted on 08/04/2010 2:16:06 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their rear end at God while praying.)
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To: Stoat

Just one more stop on Obama’s apology tour. Whatta maroon!


45 posted on 08/04/2010 2:24:37 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: skimbell
I know that my dad and the rest of the 94th ID was in the process of getting ready to head to the Pacific theater when they got word of Hiroshima.

Hubby's Dad was scheduled to be shipped over in November of that year. He and all the men who were scheduled to be sent had no illusions about what would happen when they arrived on the Japanese mainland. They knew that not only would many of THEM be killed, but many civilians would be, as well.

46 posted on 08/04/2010 2:29:28 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Stoat
I recently sailed past battleship row on Ford Island on a carrier and in passing, the Captain announced our passage and all hands on deck saluted and there was complete silence as we went by.

I was impressed about the level of recognition for our sacrifice at Pearl Harbor, and really impressed at how automatic the response was from all hands without prompting.

47 posted on 08/04/2010 2:32:00 PM PDT by gandalftb (OK State: Go Cowboys)
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To: Stoat
"It's an unsaid apology,"

That's his opinion. I look at it as our country honoring the deaths of our once enemy and now strongest ally for actions that were warranted in order to restore peace to this planet.

After all that we've been told about nuclear warfare, I find it ironic that both Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been able to rise above the nuclear rubble and build a sprawling metropolis while our own major cities such as Detroit have decayed into rubble........

48 posted on 08/04/2010 2:37:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: gandalftb

I thought rendering honors was SOP when entering PH. Your post made it sound like it was the first time it had ever been done.


49 posted on 08/04/2010 2:47:17 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Stoat

Brig Gen Paul W. Tibbets

obama

no contest. Tibbets wins.


50 posted on 08/04/2010 2:47:17 PM PDT by cubreporter ( Trust Rush and you won't go wrong.)
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