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New Chromosome Research Undermines Human-Chimp Similarity Claims
Institution for Creation Research ^ | Apr 1, 2010 | Jeffrey Tomkins, Ph.D., & Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 08/05/2010 1:51:06 PM PDT by lasereye

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1 posted on 08/05/2010 1:51:08 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye

Thanks for this.


2 posted on 08/05/2010 1:56:57 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (The TV ad says 8 out of 10 people suffer from hemorrhoids. So... the other 2 people enjoy them?)
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To: lasereye
50 percent of the human genes were missing from the chimp

3 posted on 08/05/2010 1:56:57 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: lasereye
Did the chimps commission the study to disassociate themselves from Obama? lol
4 posted on 08/05/2010 1:58:41 PM PDT by Dem Guard (The + IRS = Theirs)
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To: lasereye
The only part of this at all relevant is the advancement of the claim that rates of genetic change are probably different than have previously been claimed.

That is going to happen when you apply new technological capabilities to previously surveyed situations.

Eventually you find water on the Moon

5 posted on 08/05/2010 1:58:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: lasereye
WElllllll just duh!!!!! But as with the ‘system’ perfected by those globull warming scientist I am NOT expecting the evolution crowd to be dissuaded by LITERAL facts... Think of all the children programmed to believe they an one of the animals.
6 posted on 08/05/2010 2:01:33 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: lasereye

Evolution is the biggest Hoax of modern times, rivaling ‘Flat Earth’ theory in previous times. IMHO


7 posted on 08/05/2010 2:02:04 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: lasereye

Well, so much for evolution.


8 posted on 08/05/2010 2:02:23 PM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: Dem Guard

My question is - where are the apes’ ancestors?
Do they have to find their own?


9 posted on 08/05/2010 2:03:21 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: J Edgar

Evolution is the most insidious and perniscious hoax of all creation, pun intended.

Application of its logical implications are the reason we’re in the political/social problems we see today.


10 posted on 08/05/2010 2:04:50 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: lasereye

If man evolved from chimpanzees why are there still chimpanzees?


11 posted on 08/05/2010 2:05:16 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (NOVEMBER-2-2010!)
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To: MrB

They aren’t dumb enough to worry about this. :-)


12 posted on 08/05/2010 2:07:22 PM PDT by Dem Guard (The + IRS = Theirs)
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To: isthisnickcool

The chimpanzees are evolving from man.


13 posted on 08/05/2010 2:08:56 PM PDT by donhunt (Where does this totalitarian ashwipe get off telling me I can't chose for myself?)
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To: Dem Guard

Maybe a more accurate statement than “not dumb enough” is that they haven’t thought themselves wise and become fools.


14 posted on 08/05/2010 2:09:46 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: lasereye

...each according to their kind...


15 posted on 08/05/2010 2:11:50 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: lasereye

I think they need to re-study the link between chimps and demonRAT voters and bloggers...

...and maybe Al Franken and Keith Olbermann...


16 posted on 08/05/2010 2:12:52 PM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: isthisnickcool
If man evolved from chimpanzees why are there still chimpanzees?

Or... why are there still men?

17 posted on 08/05/2010 2:13:11 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: isthisnickcool
If man evolved from chimpanzees why are there still chimpanzees?

I can only assume at this point that when someone posts this on an Internet forum that they must be joking. Right?
18 posted on 08/05/2010 2:13:36 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: lasereye

The findings may have shocked or surprised the researchers but not those of us who have known the chimp to chump to champ notion was the pipe dream of Darwinists.


19 posted on 08/05/2010 2:18:27 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: MrB
Yes indeed.

When I was much younger I temporarily entertained Evolution, Atheism and it all happened by chance. That's what “enlightened people come to realize”, I was taught.

After regaining my Christian Faith, I actually find the “evolution story” quite laughable. So much ‘evidence’ has been cooked.

It is a deliberate scheme to deny the existence of God, so that their are no inalienable rights, and the State is all powerful over all life from conception to disposal.

20 posted on 08/05/2010 2:18:37 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: MrB

Yeah good point. Watching this process of trying to find out what evolved from what never seems to work out very well for those that pursue it.


21 posted on 08/05/2010 2:19:46 PM PDT by Dem Guard (The + IRS = Theirs)
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To: whattajoke
I can only assume at this point that when someone posts this on an Internet forum that they must be joking. Right?

My bad. I mistyped. I meant to ask "what came first, the chicken or the egg?"

22 posted on 08/05/2010 2:20:14 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (NOVEMBER-2-2010!)
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To: J Edgar

If you want an eye-opener in the realm of law,

do some research on Harvard changing from Blackstone’s commentary on the law to the “case law” approach.

The former is the “natural law”, or the God-given law approach,

and the latter is the human wisdom based, evolutionary view of the law.

As one communist put it - “the fixity of the law is our greatest obstacle”.


23 posted on 08/05/2010 2:23:33 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: whattajoke
they must be joking

Humor us. Why don't you answer instead of belittling.

ML/NJ

24 posted on 08/05/2010 2:27:52 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: lasereye

Where is the missing link?

Or for that matter, where are any of the missing links for any of the other species that have “evolved”?


25 posted on 08/05/2010 2:28:48 PM PDT by NoLibZone (If we could remove bad representatives through voting, voting would have been made illegal by now.)
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To: J Edgar

ICR has been wrong so many times. They have done much more harm to faith than all atheists combined.

Many good real Conservatives have left FR and joined Darwin Central. A schism like this seems hurtful to our causes.

But God is in control. His will is being done. Doubters might ask, “Whose Will/Control is being done?”


26 posted on 08/05/2010 2:29:20 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: lasereye

Kind of makes all of those liberals that referred to President Bush as "Chimpy McBushitler" look even that much more ridiculous.

27 posted on 08/05/2010 2:30:59 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: lasereye

Now they’re going to have to remake Inherit the wind and call it Inherit the gas.


28 posted on 08/05/2010 2:45:15 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Dem Guard

ROTFLMAO!


29 posted on 08/05/2010 2:47:43 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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To: J Edgar

There was no prevalent “flat earth theory”. It was a smear invented to discredit Catholicism. The claim that there was such a prevalent theory is well established as completely false. If we need an example of a hoax, use the assertion that socialism ss a workable economic theory.


30 posted on 08/05/2010 2:59:29 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: whattajoke

He meant: “Why are there still Democrats?”


31 posted on 08/05/2010 3:00:45 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: saltus
ICR has been wrong so many times. They have done much more harm to faith than all atheists combined.

I wonder how many of those making disparaging remarks about evolution read anything beyond the title.

32 posted on 08/05/2010 3:01:50 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Politicians exist to break windows so they may spend other people's money to fix them.)
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To: lasereye

Darwin’s theory of evolution was never intended to make the case for human evolution. It started with low level organism’s like sea sponges then moved up the ladder to birds and lizards. His findings proved that there was suffient evidence of small cellular and physical mutations caused by need for enviromental adapation. He never found or proved MAJOR MUTATIONAL TRANSFORMATIONS that would cause one species to transform in a completly different other species.


33 posted on 08/05/2010 3:03:31 PM PDT by rwoodward ("now is the time for every good man to come to the aid of their country")
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To: saltus

The only appeal that Darwinism has for “good conservatives” is that they get to claim they are “conservatives” and then go out nail every woman (or man - for the “Log Cabin” conservatives) in sight with a more or less clear conscience.

Evolution is obviously false just from a consideration of the weakness of the underlying mechanism. Epigenetics also undermines Darwinism in a different way. The difficulty is in combining Young Earth Creationism with criticism of Darwin.


34 posted on 08/05/2010 3:05:56 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: lasereye

Sometimes the need to “KNOW WHY” outweighs the need to “KNOW HOW”.


35 posted on 08/05/2010 3:08:30 PM PDT by rwoodward ("now is the time for every good man to come to the aid of their country")
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To: rwoodward

Comic book ‘science.’
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36 posted on 08/05/2010 3:08:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: lasereye

Jesus said “But from the beginning of creation God made them male and female”(Mark 10:6). The Christian realizes that science and Christianity are compatible, because science gives us information about God’s universe, but that science is not infallible and is limited in its application.


37 posted on 08/05/2010 3:09:11 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: lasereye

The job market is really tough out there. Please, teach your kids creationism to the exclusion of evolution. It’ll give my kids a better shot at the good jobs.


38 posted on 08/05/2010 3:12:57 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: J Edgar

“Evolution is the biggest Hoax of modern times, rivaling ‘Flat Earth’ theory in previous times. IMHO”

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Actually, Flat Earth theory was born about at the same time as Darwinism, and from much the same people.

All the written evidence from every culture on Earth shows that the ancients were well aware of the spherical Earth, and had even calculated its radius. Don’t forget that the “Celtic Cross” was found inside the Great Pyramid!
.


39 posted on 08/05/2010 3:14:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: J Edgar

Hasn’t changed much either. College level Bio 101 (loved the molecular stuff) still explains the big picture with “chance.” They use the word so much that it comes to mean the opposite in the student’s mind if they are not watching for it. Like the weather man saying there is a 20% chance of rain, 95% of the year. Well, is it going to rain? Probably not.


40 posted on 08/05/2010 3:14:53 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Born to Conserve

You are the best evidence I’ve seen yet to support the Chimp connection!
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41 posted on 08/05/2010 3:16:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: lasereye

Whatever the so-called scientific evidence may indicate, anyone who maintains the position that there is no relationship between humans and chimps has never once taken a serious look at the United States Congress.


42 posted on 08/05/2010 3:34:30 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: lasereye

It's my understanding some humans are more closely related to orangutans than chimps

43 posted on 08/05/2010 3:34:38 PM PDT by Zakeet (The Big Wee Wee -- rapidly moving America from WTF to SNAFU to FUBAR)
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To: lasereye

LOL...this is a NO Shoot Sherlock article. However I’ve seen some pretty bowlegged and hairy people and wondered, but thankfully this article has dispelled that thought.


44 posted on 08/05/2010 3:37:25 PM PDT by tillacum (It's the military, not the press, not the politicians, who keep this country free.)
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To: J Edgar

Yes, I agree and would like to add:
1.) Evolution =separated man from God.
2.) Marxism = man can fix man.
3.) Global Warming = man can fix earth.
All are lies, hoaxes!

Without Jesus Christ man is just a brute beast.
Without God, there is no Hope.


45 posted on 08/05/2010 3:44:45 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: FrdmLvr
Thanks!
46 posted on 08/05/2010 4:03:16 PM PDT by Dem Guard (The + IRS = Theirs)
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To: lasereye

I try to explain to brain dead liberals that believing chimps are 98 % similar to Humans is like taking apart a Chevy and Ford and mixing all the parts up and trying to make a running vehicle putting parts together at random.


47 posted on 08/05/2010 4:04:19 PM PDT by Popman
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To: rwoodward
He never found or proved MAJOR MUTATIONAL TRANSFORMATIONS that would cause one species to transform in a completly different other species.

So what was with that title, Origin of Species, then?

ML/NJ

48 posted on 08/05/2010 4:12:54 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Born to Conserve
It’ll give my kids a better shot at the good jobs.

Only because braindead a$$hole$ populate HR departments these days. (I mean, has anyone ever met an HR person who had ANY understanding of ANYTHING. Only "teachers" seem more self righteously important.)

(Sometime, let me know the level of your scientific education, and how you have pursued this topic since; and then we can talk.)

ML/NJ

49 posted on 08/05/2010 4:19:09 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: editor-surveyor

I didn’t know that. Thanks for the information.


50 posted on 08/05/2010 5:32:02 PM PDT by J Edgar
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