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WikiLeaks posts huge encrypted file to Web
Yahoo ^ | July 5, 2010 | Rapahel Satter

Posted on 08/05/2010 5:04:07 PM PDT by redhead

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To: redhead

Pvt. manning is not a natural born citizen.


51 posted on 08/05/2010 6:44:06 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Soothesayer9

I miss castlevania. That’s the swinging ropes dude right?


52 posted on 08/05/2010 6:44:44 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: red-dawg

If it’s encoded as claimed, breaking it would be bigger news than whatever is in the file.
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“Cryptographers say that the file was likely made using a 256-bit encryption standard known as AES256, which the U.S. government and others employ to mask some of their most sensitive data.

“It is widely viewed as extremely strong,” said crypotgraphy pioneer Whitfield Diffie, of Britain’s Royal Holloway College. He said there were no known instances of anyone being able to beat the standard.

Kocher, of Cryptography Research, agreed, saying that the only conceivable way anyone outside of WikiLeaks could decode “Insurance” was if Assange and his colleagues had used a blatantly obvious password or experienced some kind of “catastrophic algorithm error.”

“We’re not going to find out what’s in that file unless somebody reveals the key,” Kocher said.”


53 posted on 08/05/2010 6:47:15 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Wondering if manning had access to a STU system, did he make calls on it while the key was active and where did he make the calls?


54 posted on 08/05/2010 6:47:29 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: red-dawg
I think you misunderstood. Spooks to take down Wikileaks, not help them. The Good Shepard...Mother, to help these guys disapear.
55 posted on 08/05/2010 6:49:39 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: bushpilot1
He was born in Oklahoma.


56 posted on 08/05/2010 6:49:56 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: bushpilot1

Not a clue. All’s I heard was vague news reports that he sent files docs something from his aircraft. As nuts as that sounds I think that is what I heard.


57 posted on 08/05/2010 6:50:06 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: redhead

This stuff needs to stop, and ~right now~.

People are being killed because of this douchebag. This smarmy little twerp has blood on his hands. It’s time for his head to suddenly disappear in a cloud of red mist.


58 posted on 08/05/2010 6:51:07 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: ltc8k6
If an Intelligence Agency did break the code they would never reveal it.


59 posted on 08/05/2010 6:53:27 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104

Being born in Oklahoma alone does not make one a natural born citizen. It takes two citizen parents.


60 posted on 08/05/2010 6:54:01 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: darkwing104

They would stop using it, and thus reveal that it has been broken.

That would be the only reason to stop using a formerly unbreakable system.


61 posted on 08/05/2010 6:56:27 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: bushpilot1
Being born in Oklahoma alone does not make one a natural born citizen. It takes two citizen parents.

Father was in the Army married to a Britian-moved to Oklahoma, thus, making him more of a citizen than Obama.


62 posted on 08/05/2010 6:57:07 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104

He was born in the U.S. to British parents. Manning was not a natural born citizen.


63 posted on 08/05/2010 6:58:01 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Ramius

Cool your jets the stuff being supposedly released now is political dirt of Hillary Clinton from wikileaks soon. The AD Manning is in jail on his way to death row quickly from what the news says. The current file is encrypted and the yahoo news story says Manning has insinuated some encrypted supposed file called “insurance” is political deals Hill would not be happy if it leaked.

It is n u t s.


64 posted on 08/05/2010 6:58:50 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: ltc8k6
That would be the only reason to stop using a formerly unbreakable system.

That is why you never let the enemy know you cracked their encryption system.


65 posted on 08/05/2010 7:00:20 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: balch3

You know...this could be a setup. Obambi has the power to close the INET for up to 4 months. The threat of this information getting out could be what he needs to act.

Wiki could have been working together with the White House all along.

Cut off the internet about, oh say, Labor Day. Might be able to get back on FR by Christmas? I just hope that there is nothing newsworthy happening between then and December.


66 posted on 08/05/2010 7:09:54 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: redhead

!000 something comments to this article

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100805/ap_on_hi_te/afghanistan_wikileaks#mwpphu-container


67 posted on 08/05/2010 7:10:03 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: bushpilot1
In the future do your homework...You make the rest of us look bad.

Susan Manning, 56, moved to the US in 1979 after marrying Bradley’s American father Brian Manning, a former serviceman who was based at the Cawdor Barracks in Brawdy, near Haverfordwest.

Bradley Manning was born in Oklahoma but the couple divorced in 2001 and Mrs Manning moved back to Wales with her son, who sat his GCSEs at the Tasker Milward secondary school in Haverfordwest.

www.telegraph.co.uk


68 posted on 08/05/2010 7:10:09 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: redhead
A comment from the article that I think hits the nail on the head...

"Ya' know the more I think about this situation with wiki leaks the more I can see the GOVERMENT stepping in to put limits on the internet.......Just saying ..........Keep it in mind..........

69 posted on 08/05/2010 7:12:57 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: darkwing104

“He was born in the U.S. to British parents”

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2010/aug/01/ed-beres01-ar-356184/


70 posted on 08/05/2010 7:17:18 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: darkwing104

“The US Army intelligence analyst, who is half British”

From your link. Manning is not a natural born citizen. Was his mother a US citizen.


71 posted on 08/05/2010 7:21:32 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: CondorFlight

Bingo! They will use it for that very purpose.


72 posted on 08/05/2010 7:24:46 PM PDT by optiguy (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.----- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dacula
This is happening on purpose.

Yep! I think so as well....and we'll see more stuff hit the fan as November approaches....this is a 'controlled leak'.

73 posted on 08/05/2010 7:26:01 PM PDT by caww
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To: redhead

When the Pentagon “asked sweetly” for the melinin challenged one to return the files, I knew they wouldn’t do it.

That was equal to the Pentagon raising the white flag.

here is your answer Pentagon WHAT are you going to do about it NOW.


74 posted on 08/05/2010 7:26:28 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Delta Dawn

“Wiki could have been working together with the White House all along.”

Agreed/


75 posted on 08/05/2010 7:29:08 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: balch3

which could be automatic.


76 posted on 08/05/2010 7:30:02 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: StolarStorm

The kid next door is already on it. He is actually quite good for a 13 year old.


77 posted on 08/05/2010 7:31:27 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Wikileaks doesn’t have the key. They are hoping some hacker can crack it.”

What wikileaks wants is a ‘seti@home’ network of cpu’s to crack it.

setiathome.berkeley.edu


78 posted on 08/05/2010 7:32:15 PM PDT by George from New England (Escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: redhead

“Drink your Ovaltine”?


79 posted on 08/05/2010 7:40:43 PM PDT by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: redhead

Dollar to donuts the NSA had that thing opened nearly instantly.


80 posted on 08/05/2010 7:41:23 PM PDT by CodeToad ("Idiocracy" is not just a movie.)
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To: StolarStorm

Agreed. Time for some wet work.


81 posted on 08/05/2010 8:09:05 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (All sweat, no equity)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
I only read as far as this from a poster calling himself "Pee on Jews"

Listening to these clowns on here bandy about terms like 'traitor', 'spy', "treason', etc etc.....makes one want to laugh !

First of all, as the head of Wikileaks is neither a US citizen nor residing within any part of the USA or it's territories, it is impossible for the man to be considered a 'traitor' bent upon 'treason'.....he is obligated neither morally or ethically to conceal evidence of a crime being committed, no matter WHAT the source !

WELL DONE, WIKILEAKS !

It seems representative of the posts favorable to Wikileaks.

I am sure that the Pentagon knows what is in the files. If it was of such importance and sensational enough, It would have likely already been leaked. This vile dufuss is just singing to his choir.

82 posted on 08/05/2010 8:26:07 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: FoxPro

If I did this I would post the large encrypted file to the web and then email the key to the NSA. I would encrypt the key with one of their own public keys.

This way they would know the data was real and what it was.
It looks too much like a desperate hoax otherwise.


83 posted on 08/05/2010 8:27:11 PM PDT by Bobalu ( "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." ..Moshe Dayan:)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Swingin ropes, chandeliers, platforms, flying medusa heads, etc. Only platform that I ever really liked. The gothic, moody dracula music kinda sucked me in ;)


84 posted on 08/05/2010 8:54:34 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: red-dawg
"There are guys over at No Such Agency that eat this stuff for breakfast. It will be broken within the week."

In the days of William Donovan and the OSS, Julian Assange would have already accidentally drowned in his bath tub and "Wikileaks" would be the web address of a 24 hour plumbing service in Brooklyn.

85 posted on 08/05/2010 9:00:09 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: bushpilot1
“The US Army intelligence analyst, who is half British”

Susan Manning, 56, moved to the US in 1979 after marrying Bradley’s American father Brian Manning, a former serviceman

Brian Manning was born in Oklahoma and Served in the Army for 5 Years, While he was stationed in England he met Susan. They Move to Oklahoma in 1979. Bradley Manning was born in Crescent Oklahoma.

He most likely had Duel Citizenship.

After his Parents divorced he went to Wales with his mother, he wasn't very good in British schools. The brits don't put up with jerks. (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/3073427/Is-geeky-soldier-schooled-in-Wales-the-WikiLeek.html)

Pvt Manning moved to Oklahoma where he didn't do much till he joined the Army in 2007.

To be an Intelligence Analyst you have to go through a thorough background investigation to get a Top Secret SCI clearence. What I learned about this clown he should of had it pulled while he was at Fort Huachuca.

There has been a lot of piss poor reporting on this individual.

I owe you an apology you posted a link that you thought was correct but it wasn't.


86 posted on 08/05/2010 9:06:10 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: balch3

It doesn’t even have to be encrypted. It could just be a large file of random bytes. As long as others think it is an encrypted file, they will waste copious quantities of resources attempting to decrypt it. Garbage in. Garbage out.


87 posted on 08/05/2010 9:13:01 PM PDT by Lurkus Maximus
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Wikileaks doesn’t have the key. They are hoping some hacker can crack it.

Manning has the key and he ain't talking.


88 posted on 08/05/2010 9:19:48 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104
He was born in Oklahoma.

A song !

"And his wife's name was Betty Lou Thelma Liz . . "

Sorry, couldn't resist it.

89 posted on 08/05/2010 11:09:15 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: redhead
I say send some special ops personnel and snatch Julian Assange, take him on an all-expenses paid trip to Gitmo, and proceed to waterboard his ass until he coughs up the encryption.

A friend of terrorists deserves no less.
90 posted on 08/06/2010 2:52:23 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: darkwing104
He most likely had Duel Citizenship.

Here's hoping he loses the duel.
91 posted on 08/06/2010 2:58:58 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: darkwing104

Right, but this is internal. It will be us stopping the system we use.


92 posted on 08/06/2010 4:08:17 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6
Kocher, of Cryptography Research, agreed, saying that the only conceivable way anyone outside of WikiLeaks could decode “Insurance” was if Assange and his colleagues had used a blatantly obvious password or experienced some kind of “catastrophic algorithm error.”

“We’re not going to find out what’s in that file unless somebody reveals the key,” Kocher said.”

Or...unless somebody has a lot of time. AES-256 is safe indeed…today. Ciphers have a limited life span. They keep things secret for a few years. State secrets, however, are often supposed to stay secret for decades. They are not going to stay secret for decades if you release them today, with an algorithm that is safe today, but probably not in five years. If my secret data were in that file, I would treat those guys as if they had released it unencrypted already.
93 posted on 08/06/2010 5:23:54 AM PDT by cartan
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To: JimSEA

Yeah Im sure there are some S I C K comments. Michael Moore is calling Manning a hero.


94 posted on 08/06/2010 5:45:58 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Manning should be tried for treason.


95 posted on 08/06/2010 5:52:14 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Soothesayer9

Yes! I agree with all you said LOL!

What I would do for the fun I had playing the original Zelda LINK. Or hell...the original Pac Man. LOL


96 posted on 08/06/2010 5:57:18 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: JimSEA

I went to wikileaks home page and it is run on the FOIAct.

I think all of this bottom line is to do NET NEUTRALITY censorship. I read that someone said DU has an article up that some dumbassed progressive is really pushing NET NEUTRALITY. Obama et al don’t want anything critical of them before they progressively turn us into a hitler state.


97 posted on 08/06/2010 6:01:57 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: redhead

blackmail is a crime as are treason and espionage.


98 posted on 08/06/2010 7:22:06 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: prairiebreeze

It isn’t ineptness when the administration’s lack of will to clean the gulf, seal the border, enforce immigration laws, or prosecute traitors doesn’t exist. They are the fox in the hen house, the 1968 radicals are in charge now and they see nothing wrong.

It is willful neglect and deliberate.


99 posted on 08/06/2010 7:23:53 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Soothesayer9

“PGP is uncrackable even by the CIA/NSA.”

Yup, that’s what NSA says, so encrypt all your sensitive stuff with PGP! NSA would never fib about a widely available public crypto system, like they’d never pull all telegrams sent from the USA.


100 posted on 08/06/2010 7:37:57 AM PDT by DBrow
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