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Hiroshima 65 years later: US attends ceremony, but offers no apology
CS Monitor ^ | August 6, 2010 | Gavin Blair

Posted on 08/06/2010 7:59:03 AM PDT by americanophile

Sixty-five years after the United States dropped "Little Boy" on Hiroshima, effectively ending World War II and ushering in an era of nuclear dread, the US sent its first delegation to the annual ceremony to remember the over 100,000 Japanese who lost their lives in the bombing.

Britain and France also sent representatives for the first time.

While some Japanese hailed the presence of the US and other nuclear powers as a sign of commitment to eventual nuclear disarmament, for others it was too little, too late. Some Japanese still want an apology for the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, while others complained about the absence of President Obama.

Some of Hiroshima’s hibakusha – as atomic bomb survivors are known – criticized the US ambassador for failing to meet with them, apologize for the bombing, or even offer a floral tribute. Others however, saw his visit as a sign of progress.

On the streets of Tokyo, there were mixed feelings regarding the US delegation’s attendance. “It’s good they’ve come, but why has it taken 65 years?” asked an office worker who was watching the morning’s ceremony from Hiroshima on public broadcast NHK. “And really, Obama should be here after the speeches he’s made about nuclear weapons."

US Ambassador to Japan John Roos was joined by UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and delegates from over 70 countries as Prime Minister Naoto Kan implored the world to “accept the Japanese people's hope that nuclear destruction never takes place again."

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KEYWORDS: apology; atomicbomb; hiroshima; japan
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I know a couple of these have been posted, but I'm so incredulous and angry about these revisionist, self-righteous Japanese who think the President should be there apologizing to them...it's beyond all belief.
1 posted on 08/06/2010 7:59:06 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile
US attends ceremony, but offers no apology

Why not "offer" fist pumps, high fives and end zone dances?

2 posted on 08/06/2010 8:00:17 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: americanophile

Were they expecting one?

How about the same time we get an apology for Pearl Harbor


3 posted on 08/06/2010 8:00:56 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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To: Mr. K

And China gets one for “The Rape of Nanking”, which Japanese textbooks won’t even acknowledge.


4 posted on 08/06/2010 8:01:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: americanophile
There's nothing to apologize for...

Operation Downfall

5 posted on 08/06/2010 8:02:12 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: americanophile

Should the US apologize for saving the lives of countless Japanese lives? Millions of Japanese would have been killed if the US had invaded the home islands. Doesn’t everybody know this?


6 posted on 08/06/2010 8:02:25 AM PDT by thesharkboy (<-- Looking for the silver lining in every cloud, since 1998)
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To: Mr. K

How about the same time we get an apology for Pearl Harbor

And the Bataan Death March!!


7 posted on 08/06/2010 8:02:34 AM PDT by Radagast the Fool ("Mexico-Beirut with tacos!"--Dr. Zoidberg)
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To: Radagast the Fool

EXACTLY.


8 posted on 08/06/2010 8:03:15 AM PDT by goodnesswins (WHEN DEMOCRATS LOSE.....America WINS!)
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To: Radagast the Fool

And the Korean comfort women

And Unit 731

....


9 posted on 08/06/2010 8:03:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: americanophile
Yes, maybe we'll think about apologizing after we receive an apology for Pearl Harbor, The Baatan Death March, the Rape of Nanking, and all of the other atrocities they imposed upon our POWs. Then again, maybe not. But we are still waiting for our apology from them nonetheless.

Would they have liked it any better had we invaded Japan? I think not. They would be demanding an apology for that, too.

10 posted on 08/06/2010 8:03:34 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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To: americanophile
Just curious, has Japan ever apologized for bombing Pearl Harbor? Maybe they did but I have never heard about it.
11 posted on 08/06/2010 8:04:03 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Hand out pocket Constitutions to everyone you can")
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To: americanophile

Here’s an apology that might work. “We’re sorry we couldn’t have dropped them sooner. Think of all the additional lives that might have been spared. We’re also sorry you haven’t apologized to anyone for all the things you did during WWII.”


12 posted on 08/06/2010 8:04:14 AM PDT by hometoroost (McCain is a Ron and Nancy Republican: Campaigns like Reagan, governs like Pelosi)
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To: americanophile

I’m shocked that the Bowzer-in-Chief was absent.


13 posted on 08/06/2010 8:05:36 AM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day.)
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To: americanophile

The Japs are lucky we didn’t drop one on Toyko.


14 posted on 08/06/2010 8:05:44 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: americanophile
No apololgy should be forthcoming, ever. It was war, a war We did not want nor start. That was then, this is now. The past should not be forgotten, but neither should it be reappraised by our standards, We simply don't have the right or wisdom to do so.

CC

15 posted on 08/06/2010 8:05:44 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (ostende mihi pecuniam!)
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To: americanophile

We are sorry we saved so many japanese lives by dropping the bomb instead of invading. Next time we will go for maximum carnage. Satisfied?


16 posted on 08/06/2010 8:07:05 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (In the White House the mighty White House the Liar sleeps tonight.............)
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To: Celtic Conservative

CC, you are so right.

They started the War,and we ended it.
So what’s the problem?


17 posted on 08/06/2010 8:08:34 AM PDT by Radagast the Fool ("Mexico-Beirut with tacos!"--Dr. Zoidberg)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Exactly. The list of Japanese atrocities during WWII are legion and defy belief; as sadistic, cruel and inhuman as that perpetrated by their allies, the NAZIs, in their combined imperial bid to rule to the world. America has ZERO to apologize for, but there is a mountain of misdeeds that Japan has yet to recognize, much less atone for. Japan lost the war but they are completely unrepentant.
18 posted on 08/06/2010 8:09:46 AM PDT by americanophile (November can't come fast enough....)
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To: americanophile
I wasn't around back then, but as an American I feel no sympathy to the Japanese affected by the bombings of Hiroshima or Nagasaki. It was a good thing that those people died, that those terrible weapons destroyed two cities and ultimately caused Japan to surrender, ending the war and preventing the deaths of potentially hundreds of thousands of Americans.

This should be the purpose of war - to destroy the enemy until they either submit or are extinguished.

I'm happy that we have a friendly relationship with Japan now, but in no way should America ever apologize for doing the right thing to protect her interests or the lives of her citizens.

This effort to whitewash history will only cause humanity to repeat the tragedies of the past.

19 posted on 08/06/2010 8:11:53 AM PDT by SaveTheChief (Obama dithered, America withered.)
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To: shove_it

20 posted on 08/06/2010 8:12:50 AM PDT by americanophile (November can't come fast enough....)
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To: americanophile

PERFECT!

LOL!


21 posted on 08/06/2010 8:15:07 AM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day.)
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To: americanophile

I wrote one, why didn’t they use it:

We’re sorry you started the war, committed heinous war crimes and were such fanatics that the dropping of atomic bombs was the only way to end the war and minimize casualties.


22 posted on 08/06/2010 8:15:12 AM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: americanophile

No apologies. EVER!


23 posted on 08/06/2010 8:16:26 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: americanophile

The Japanese were - and still are - Just like a criminal who is regretful for having been caught, not for the criminal act.

They are a pitifully arrogant people that truly believe that they exist on a higher plane than most all others in the world. They believe that if they do something bad to you it’s YOUR fault because YOU did not stop it. That’s why they have showed only the most minimal of contrition for 60 years.

It’s all a holdover from that twisted, bushido honor crap that they can’t get out of their DNA.

They think that if they can get us to apologize for the bombs then that somehow washes them clean of their barbaric rampage throughout the entire war. They know Obozo is their BEST chance for an official apology.


24 posted on 08/06/2010 8:19:16 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: americanophile

Well, I guess they could have continued to fight instead of surrendering. Their population today would be about 2 million, and no real post war recovery to talk about. Maybe they should thank us for all the major investments that made their recovery possible?


25 posted on 08/06/2010 8:19:16 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Exactly!!!!!!!


26 posted on 08/06/2010 8:20:37 AM PDT by Williford
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To: shove_it
He's already bowed to the Japanese Emperor...the 5th son of Hirohito, in whose name tens of thousands of Americans and millions of others were slaughtered. Obama is beyond contempt. You want to meet with the emperor as an American, you do it on equal terms, ALWAYS.


27 posted on 08/06/2010 8:21:12 AM PDT by americanophile (November can't come fast enough....)
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To: americanophile

My father was in Nagasaki two weeks after they dropped the bomb. He’d just spent the last four years in the Pacific in some pretty hairy spots (including Guadalcanal, Coral Sea, Leyte, Iwo, Okinawa) and earning 7 battle stars. He is one of the dwindling few who have witnessed the result of the use of “the bomb” first hand, and his views on their use is complex. One of the items he has kept all these years is a little twisted brown thing - almost unrecognizable - but it is a fused portion of a human spine, the last remains of some poor soul lost. It isn’t kept as a trophy of the vanquished, but as kind of a memorial to the completeness of war. I don’t know what I’ll do with it when he passes - maybe it belongs at home in Japan.


28 posted on 08/06/2010 8:22:25 AM PDT by stormer
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To: NeverForgetBataan

Their self-righteousness and denial defies belief.


29 posted on 08/06/2010 8:22:42 AM PDT by americanophile (November can't come fast enough....)
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To: americanophile

We should be funding the building of a 13 story Christian church at the site. Just to show we hold no grudges.


30 posted on 08/06/2010 8:23:37 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: stormer

War is an awful thing. Japan shouldn’t have started it. Millions died as a result.


31 posted on 08/06/2010 8:24:26 AM PDT by americanophile (November can't come fast enough....)
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To: silverleaf

;)


32 posted on 08/06/2010 8:24:57 AM PDT by americanophile (November can't come fast enough....)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Well, I guess they could have continued to fight instead of surrendering. Their population today would be about 2 million, and no real post war recovery to talk about. Maybe they should thank us for all the major investments that made their recovery possible?

Not true. An invasion was not necessary. The Japanese (who were being strangled by the blockade) were ready to agree to a conditional surrender (thus avoiding an invasion) BEFORE the bombs were dropped. The sticking point was whether they could keep the emperor. Truman, backed up by his bitter end New Deal advisors who wanted to eliminate all vestiges of the imperial regime, refused. Ironically, Truman finally agreed to such a conditional surrender when, after dropping of the two bombs, the Japanese still held out on this point. It was not necessary to INTENTIONALLY violate the ancient rules of war by INTENTIONALLY kill thousands of babies and little old ladies (many who lived in Nagasaki, the heart of Japanese Christianity) solely to promote terror.

33 posted on 08/06/2010 8:27:23 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: americanophile
Sore Losers...nyah nyah nee nyah nyah. The sons and daughters of the soldiers spared invading Japan should send our own "delegation".

My grandchildren are almost old enough to get the same "never forget" rant that my children got so that these "rewrite" historians never get their way.

34 posted on 08/06/2010 8:27:36 AM PDT by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: americanophile

Damn right!


35 posted on 08/06/2010 8:27:51 AM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day.)
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To: americanophile

An embargo is an act of war. Who “started” that?


36 posted on 08/06/2010 8:27:52 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: shove_it

“I’m shocked that the Bowzer-in-Chief was absent”

If Obozo had gone to that circus sideshow his approval rating would have dropped 10 more points overnight. Only the hardcore, insane left of left would approve of that. Zero’s popularity in Indonesia would be destroyed also. They think he’s like a native son. And probably is. Japan was brutal on the Indonesians as everywhere.


37 posted on 08/06/2010 8:28:52 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: BallyBill

Oh and maybe apologize to the “comfort girls” while they are down on their knees too.


38 posted on 08/06/2010 8:30:12 AM PDT by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: thethirddegree
It was too late by then...we had already burned most of it to the ground...As a matter of fact the fire bombing of Tokyo killed more then both the atom bombs combined...but you'll never see that in the history books.
39 posted on 08/06/2010 8:30:59 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: americanophile

Bush 41 barfed in the Japanese Prime Minister’s lap - that is more appropriate.


40 posted on 08/06/2010 8:31:36 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (REAL Americans Bow to No One But The Almighty! - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Captain Kirk

So is invading other countries...which they did BEFORE any embargo’s were in place. GO READ A REAL HISTORY BOOK.


41 posted on 08/06/2010 8:33:47 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Captain Kirk

An embargo is NOT an act of war.

Japan invaded Manchuria in 1931.
Japan signed a tri-party pact with Italy and Germany.
Japan ignored in place treaties on Naval battleship tonnage.

Japan has NOBODY to blame, but herself.


42 posted on 08/06/2010 8:34:24 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
ground...As a matter of fact the fire bombing of Tokyo killed more then both the atom bombs combined

Quite true but is worth mentioning that the fire bombing killed far fewer as a proportion of Tokyo's population than each of the bombs did in one fell swoop of Nagasaki and Hiroshima's population.

43 posted on 08/06/2010 8:34:52 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk
Oh please. First off embargo is a misnomer, since we weren't blockading their harbors, etc. It's far more akin to sanctions, which are routine and not an act of war. If we don't want to sell Japan oil or metal for their imperial war effort, we damn sure don't have to. By the time the sanctions were imposed, Japan had already been fighting an aggressive imperial war for almost 4 years against the Chinese Republic - a war that cost the lives of millions. To argue that the U.S. started this war is absolutely pathetic.
44 posted on 08/06/2010 8:39:05 AM PDT by americanophile (November can't come fast enough....)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
So is invading other countries...which they did BEFORE any embargo’s were in place. GO READ A REAL HISTORY BOOK.

I was simply stating a fact (e.g. how an embargo is defeind under international law) that applied to U.S/Japan relations. As to your point, plenty of countries in the wold have invaded "other countries" in the last few decades. Are you suggesting that we should go to war with all of them? If so, I may need a history book but you'll need a whole factory of money printing presses to pay for that!

45 posted on 08/06/2010 8:39:16 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: stormer

The one’s who got vaporized were luckiest of those civilians who died in the bombs.

The not so lucky, were the civilians who got starved to death inch by inch in almost ALL the areas that Japan invaded during the war.


46 posted on 08/06/2010 8:40:05 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: americanophile

here’s an apology, “sorry we didnt have the bomb sooner, butterhead!”


47 posted on 08/06/2010 8:41:22 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: americanophile
Apology???

How about this:
I'm sorry we had to sell our souls to a WMD and communism, sacrifice many thousands of young American lives, spend billions of dollars, and spark three more American wars to stop your tyrannical emperor from murdering/raping/torturing every human being on the planet that got in his way of his goal to conquer and share the world with Nazi Germany.

48 posted on 08/06/2010 8:41:44 AM PDT by kidd
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To: americanophile

IF it were up to me, I’d say we will never apologize for that. Never. So that we could finally stop seeing these dumb stories every years saying ‘we didn’t apologize yet’.

We’re not going to apologize. It saved more Japanes lives ending the war this way than a full scale invasion would have. Besides victors do not apologize to the defeated INSTIGATORS who attacked us first.


49 posted on 08/06/2010 8:42:46 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: americanophile

Dick Cheney, showing them how its done..


50 posted on 08/06/2010 8:45:25 AM PDT by rahbert (Come heavy or don't come at all)
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