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US Catholic bishops say Prop. 8 ruling misuses the law
cna ^ | August 4, 2010

Posted on 08/06/2010 2:16:49 PM PDT by NYer

Cardinal Francis George and Archbishop Joseph Kurtz.

Washington D.C., Aug 4, 2010 / 06:27 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- After U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker struck down California's Proposition 8 on Wednesday afternoon, Cardinal Francis George, president of the U.S. bishops' conference, and Archbishop Joseph Kurtz, the chairman of the bishops' Committee for the Defense of Marriage, described the ruling as a "misuse of law."

Cardinal George stated, “Marriage between a man and a woman is the bedrock of any society. The misuse of law to change the nature of marriage undermines the common good.”

“It is tragic that a federal judge would overturn the clear and expressed will of the people in their support for the institution of marriage. No court of civil law has the authority to reach into areas of human experience that nature itself has defined,” the U.S. bishops' president insisted.

Archbishop Joseph Kurtz, Chair of the Ad Hoc Committee for the Defense of Marriage, also weighed in on the ruling, saying, “Citizens of this nation have uniformly voted to uphold the understanding of marriage as a union of one man and one woman in every jurisdiction where the issue has been on the ballot. This understanding is neither irrational nor unlawful."

“Marriage is more fundamental and essential to the well being of society than perhaps any other institution. It is simply unimaginable that the court could now claim a conflict between marriage and the Constitution,” the Archbishop of Louisville said.

The Catholic bishops' reactions were echoed by other pro-family and pro-marriage groups.

The lawyers for Protectmarriage.com, the defendants in the ruling, plan to appeal the case.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: appeal; catholic; homosexualagenda; prop8; usccb

1 posted on 08/06/2010 2:16:52 PM PDT by NYer
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It is simply unimaginable that the court could now claim a conflict between marriage and the Constitution.

Bears repeating!

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2 posted on 08/06/2010 2:17:43 PM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: NYer

So much for the people’s will... what does it matter when some black-robed tyrant can strike whatever we do, down? As if “The Agenda” wasn’t plain enough...


3 posted on 08/06/2010 2:20:15 PM PDT by pray4liberty (dare I say it?)
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The Catholic vote in California leans liberal for the most part, and pro-abortion! They went for Obama in droves! The politicians strong-arm them every time on their guilt over “social justice”.... and now the Catholic leadership are unhappy when gay groups want justice and the ‘right’ to marry? They helped to create this monster.


5 posted on 08/06/2010 2:25:26 PM PDT by pray4liberty (dare I say it?)
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Good for them for saying this. But in the same breath they’ll turn around and demand amnesty for pretty much any criminal who wants to plant themselves in the US for the free, taxpayer-funded handouts. The Catholic Church has no idea how to build or be part of an effective political constituency.


6 posted on 08/06/2010 2:27:15 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: pray4liberty

So you are saying they should be MORE Catholic.

I agree.


7 posted on 08/06/2010 2:32:41 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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These aren’t the same Catholic bishops that subvert American law by giving sanctuary to illegal aliens or demanding that we give illegals amnesty, are they?


8 posted on 08/06/2010 2:34:04 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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Fallible men, in an infallible Church. But you’re right, this is good, and I agree, while being disappointed with the opinions regarding illegal alien criminals. This is a misuse of the law, and I sincerely hope that the trip to visit the Supremes doesn’t take too long.


9 posted on 08/06/2010 2:41:10 PM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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The Catholic bishops are the last ones to talk about the Constitution and the Law. They are enablers of illegal immigration and encourage people to break our laws.

"Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony lambasted legislation passed Monday by Arizona lawmakers that would crack down on illegal immigrants, likening it to "German Nazi and Russian Communist techniques" that compelled people to turn each other in."

"The Arizona legislature just passed the country's most retrogressive, mean-spirited, and useless anti-immigrant law," he wrote on his blog. "The tragedy of the law is its totally flawed reasoning: that immigrants come to our country to rob, plunder, and consume public resources. That is not only false, the premise is nonsense."

10 posted on 08/06/2010 2:59:32 PM PDT by kabar
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... the consent of the governed.


11 posted on 08/06/2010 3:16:32 PM PDT by AncientAirs
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Yea but illegal invaders are OK. Go fiqure.


12 posted on 08/06/2010 3:17:36 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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Exactly, I wonder how many Catholics dislike the Catholic Church?

Same thing with Americans, as we know MANY Americans hate America. I think is probably the same principle they don't want to go anywhere else, so they want to water down the Church/Nation they live in.

13 posted on 08/06/2010 3:18:33 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Lord help our Armed Service members that they not become pawns in Hussein's quest to destroy America)
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Ah, it does my heart good to read comments from bishops that make me proud of them.


14 posted on 08/06/2010 4:05:49 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: pray4liberty
The Catholic vote in California leans liberal for the most part, and pro-abortion! They went for Obama in droves! "

As for me and my family, we will follow the Lord!"

As Californians, we vote our conscience and our consciences are MUCH DIFFERENT than Nancy Pelosi's!

We worked to get prop 8 passed, only to have the will of the people nullified by one judge.

It would be great if this one judge could also pull a Merriam-Webster and change terminal cancer to the common cold! So many lives could be saved and so much research could be used for other purposes!

"A rose by any other name is still a rose!" Marriage is still the union of one eligible man and one eligible woman! Two homosexuals living together and calling it marriage is still an aberration of marriage, it doesn't matter how many satanic ministers give them the blessings from hell!

15 posted on 08/06/2010 4:10:16 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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So you are saying they should be MORE Catholic. I agree.

Faithful Catholics in California and not so faithful Catholics need your prayers. You have no idea what it is like living in Sodom and Gomorrah! The city named after St. Francis is decadent. We need another St. Francis to step up to the plate and clean house!

16 posted on 08/06/2010 4:16:47 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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Don't have time to look it up, but I'm pretty sure Cardinal George is one of the pro-amnesty guys ---and the USCCB in general is drunk on misplaced zeal on the pro-amnesty pro-lawbreakers side :(

Haven't heard about Bishop Kurtz on this issue --- I really like him, he used to be our Bishop down here in Knoxville (before he was given a bigger seat in Louisville) and he did an excellent job here. A holy guy, and nobody's fool. I'd be pretty disappointed if he fell into the same error.

Anybody know?

17 posted on 08/06/2010 4:18:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (USCCB delenda est.)
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"Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony lambasted legislation passed Monday by Arizona lawmakers that would crack down on illegal immigrants, likening it to "German Nazi and Russian Communist techniques" that compelled people to turn each other in."

Mother Angelica, put Cardinal Roger Mahony in his place, please!

18 posted on 08/06/2010 4:20:41 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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I agree with the bishops’ views on the travesty of allowing homosexual marriage, which is an oxymoron if there ever was one. I can see how Roman Catholics can be tools for liberalism. The RCC has been preaching social justice and helping the poor for so long that many or most of them will fall for the liberal line every time. The sad fact is the most American Roman Catholics pay no attention to the teachings of their faith. They are as someone said on FR, accidental Catholics.


19 posted on 08/06/2010 4:30:25 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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BTTT!

**It is simply unimaginable that the court could now claim a conflict between marriage and the Constitution.**

Repeating it again!


20 posted on 08/07/2010 3:17:04 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer
 
Marriage: One Man -- One Woman

21 posted on 08/07/2010 3:18:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I wish the religious leaders would quit pussyfooting around with the language. "Misuses" the law? Why can't they just forcefully say it perverts the law?
22 posted on 08/08/2010 8:20:30 AM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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