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A Muslim victim of 9/11: 'Build your mosque somewhere else'
The Washington Post ^ | August 8, 2010 | Neda Bolourchi

Posted on 08/08/2010 4:25:07 AM PDT by decimon

I have no grave site to visit, no place to bring my mother her favorite yellow flowers, no spot where I can hold my weary heart close to her. All I have is Ground Zero.

On the morning of Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2001, I watched as terrorists slammed United Flight 175 into the South Tower of the World Trade Center, 18 minutes after their accomplices on another hijacked plane hit the North Tower. My mother was on the flight. I witnessed her murder on live television. I still cannot fully comprehend those images. In that moment, I died as well. I carry a hole in my heart that will never be filled.

From the first memorial ceremonies I attended at Ground Zero, I have always been moved by the site; it means something to be close to where my mother may be buried, it brings some peace. That is why the prospect of a mosque near Ground Zero -- or a church or a synagogue or any religious or nationalistic monument or symbol -- troubles me.

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...I fear it would become a symbol of victory for militant Muslims around the world.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 911atrocities; 911mosque; bain; bloombergmosque; nyc; romney; rop; wot
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1 posted on 08/08/2010 4:25:09 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
I posted a thread back 2001 that featured a 9/11 tribute site.
Amazingly, one of the links was still active- Tribute

(Still got all weepy and goose bumpy watching it)

Heck yes! They can build their mosque some where else!
2 posted on 08/08/2010 4:45:25 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: decimon

Oddly enough, she is also against ANY religious or “nationalistic” symbols there. Maybe she is saying it so she doesn’t get killed?


3 posted on 08/08/2010 4:48:48 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: PghBaldy
Oddly enough, she is also against ANY religious or “nationalistic” symbols there. Maybe she is saying it so she doesn’t get killed?

I take that to mean the tragedy of the thing shouldn't be exploited for any extraneous purpose.

4 posted on 08/08/2010 4:53:57 AM PDT by decimon
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To: PghBaldy
Probably since this church is already there.
5 posted on 08/08/2010 4:58:40 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: decimon
...I fear it would become a symbol of victory for militant Muslims around the world.

Why, most certainly it would!

6 posted on 08/08/2010 5:07:26 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: decimon

Why have the Muslims chosen this particular site...?

The building of this victory mosque on this site substantiates the position of the Islamic militants by rekindling the prophecies of Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden. That America is nothing more than a paper tiger, bloodied with the guilt of imperialism and inescapably tainted by an anti-Islamic history. It is this symbolically violent imagery that Islam’s fundamentalist orators will use to radicalize a new contingent of militants from the ranks of Islam’s moderates. Individuals who are mesmerized by the phantasmagorical image of this mega mosque being built on the site of 9/11 and who will see it as a sign of America’s impending submission and our nation’s acquiescence to the superiority of Islam.

They could have picked anywhere to build this mosque but... then it would not serve it’s purpose.


7 posted on 08/08/2010 5:18:37 AM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Trinity Church and cemetery is more a heritage site than anything else.


8 posted on 08/08/2010 5:28:06 AM PDT by decimon
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To: MaryFromMichigan

“Heck yes! They can build their mosque some where else! “

Yes, like Pakistan or Saudi Arabia!


9 posted on 08/08/2010 5:29:16 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: RoadTest

If we deport them all we won’t have this controversy.


10 posted on 08/08/2010 5:29:50 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

I watched just now. Can hardly see or breathe through my tears and broken heart.

And we have a president who ‘understands’ how this could have happened.

We have a NYC Mayor who is so craven he condones a mosque at the site, in the name of all that is evil, in my opinion.

Yes, we forgot that day already.

Not much rebuilt at that site, nothing but vile attacks on Mayor Giuliani as thanks for his endless days of making sure NYC held together in the aftermath.

America has forgotten. SHAME SHAME SHAME

We who have not forgotten need to stand up. STAND UP


11 posted on 08/08/2010 5:30:02 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: decimon
Check this out. The Iranians love Mayor Bloomberg....

NY mayor silences anti-mosque bigots

12 posted on 08/08/2010 5:32:47 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: decimon

Moslems qua Moslems hold no respect for cemeteries. Once one is dead he is interred as quickly as possible and there may or may not be a marker. Then he is forgotten and graveyards can be built over with no preliminary discussion or regret or resentment. The dead body is merely trash.


13 posted on 08/08/2010 5:33:11 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: decimon
these Imams have access to millions of dollars from Muslim countries - power of the purse always wins in N.Y.
14 posted on 08/08/2010 5:33:12 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: decimon

Egalitarianism is evil


15 posted on 08/08/2010 5:34:40 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: mewzilla

Too many, even here on FR, forgot already.

Forgot President Bush’s resolve, his efforts to bring the murdering scum to justice. All the while Eric Holder and his ilk were working to protect the islamic jihadists from us, US.

These scum are here in our midst working to destroy every last bit of America. We have a political party, D , determined to excuse those who hate us. Embrace the terrorists and their evil ways.

Obama, and Bloomberg are on the side of the terrorists.


16 posted on 08/08/2010 5:36:26 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: decimon

It’s still a church. Didn’t a priest from that church die helping people on 9/11? Am I remembering correctly?


17 posted on 08/08/2010 5:39:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Carley
Well, this is the same bunch that aided and abetted the release of the Lockerbie bomber.

And now that I think about it, I don't recall Mayor Bloomberg making a stink about al-Megrahi's release.

Go figger.

18 posted on 08/08/2010 5:44:42 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: DJ MacWoW
9/11 Anniversary: Remembering Father Mike

You'll probably recall seeing the picture shown at the link.

19 posted on 08/08/2010 5:46:35 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: DJ MacWoW
On a different church near Ground Zero, and isn't interesting that not all houses of worship get accorded the same consideration...

Church Near Ground Zero Asking For Attention

20 posted on 08/08/2010 5:48:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: mewzilla

...get afforded...


21 posted on 08/08/2010 5:49:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Nope. It was Rev. Mahoney, the Chief Chaplain of the NYFD. How soon you forgot!

So you propose a church that stood there for over 200 years (1766) is to be taken away? It is a historical landmark, period.


22 posted on 08/08/2010 5:49:48 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: Carley
Too many, even here on FR, forgot already. Forgot President Bush’s resolve, his efforts to bring the murdering scum to justice.

So very true.

23 posted on 08/08/2010 5:50:18 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: decimon
“I witnessed her murder on live television.”

OMG! That never occurred to me! The victims families watched the murder of their loved ones on live TV. Gives me goosebumps.

How soon we have forgotten.....Please note Blooming Idiot Mayor.

24 posted on 08/08/2010 5:50:28 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-2-10!)
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To: mazda77
It is a historical landmark, period.

George Washington attended services there.

25 posted on 08/08/2010 5:52:06 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-2-10!)
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To: mewzilla

Mayor Bloomingidiot was also in favor of having the terror trial in NYC. When the outcry became too loud, he backed off.

He is a sickening example of liberalism gone insane.


26 posted on 08/08/2010 5:52:28 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: mewzilla

Apparently it’s not the “right” kind of church. We must be “tolerant”. /s


27 posted on 08/08/2010 5:56:41 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: mazda77

Try reading what I actually said.


28 posted on 08/08/2010 5:57:11 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

bookmark


29 posted on 08/08/2010 5:57:19 AM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: Carley
On Bloomberg....

Liberal Piety and the Memory of 9/11 The enlightened class can't understand why the public is uneasy about the Ground Zero mosque.

And a gentleman from this group was on FNC this morning...

The 911 Hard Hat Pledge

They're pledging not to work on the project unless it's moved away from Ground Zero.

30 posted on 08/08/2010 5:57:39 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: mewzilla

Thank the hard hats for remembering.

Too many so called Americans seem to subscribe to Rev. Wright’s position that our chickens came home to roost.

Damn them for all time.


31 posted on 08/08/2010 6:01:27 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Carley

Share the link with folks :)


32 posted on 08/08/2010 6:02:59 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: expatguy

Exactly ,Fox had a Union Leader on this morning who is leading a Movement to Have No Hard hats or anyone who supports them work on this project. He said he would build it anywhere else but not on that site. He said this is not aimed at being anti religion or Anti Muslim ,if the Imam who wants to build this Mosque called him at home with a roofing problem he would be there with 10 guys to fix it for him,but how Many 13 story Mosques do you see? They are all 2 stories,this is an Insult,this should not be built on that site


33 posted on 08/08/2010 6:05:17 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: DJ MacWoW
"It’s still a church."

Like the readers of this thread hadn't figured that out. Thanks for enlightening what stupid rubes that didn't.

It rang to me like saying the Constitution is only a piece of paper.

34 posted on 08/08/2010 6:07:07 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: DJ MacWoW

If you meant it to be sarcastic, wonderful. This whole episode still knaws at my soul and will to the day I meet our maker whan all questions will be answered, especially the smallest one; WHY?

Please, please use the /s notation to be perfectly clear what your intentions are. We can’t see inflections.


35 posted on 08/08/2010 6:11:10 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: mazda77

Read post 3. My response to post 3 is post 5. Someone else responded to my post 5 and said something that had NOTHING to do with my response. That was post 8. Then you come along and totally miss what was being discussed, much the same as the other poster. Try following a conversation back to the beginning. It might give you CONTEXT.


36 posted on 08/08/2010 6:14:09 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Carley; RoadTest; Sparky1776

According to the page counter, that old video has had 9,387,417 hits.

In the midst of all the crap about this mosque, more folks should watch it.

I defy anyone with a heart for this Country to watch that video, remember that day, and in their wildest nightmares, imagine a mosque anywhere near that site.


37 posted on 08/08/2010 6:16:48 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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I wouldn’t have an issue if a church, synagogue, temple or anything but a mosque was built there.

That is because the people who might want to build and/or attend churches, synagogues, temples or anything other than a mosque wouldn’t be adherents to the religion that this was done in the name of.

And the people who might be advocating the construction of churches, synagogues, temples or anything other than a mosque at the site wouldn’t answer questions about Hamas and terrorism in general in the same fashion as Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf who told WABC radio when asked about Hamas and terrorism, “Look, I’m not a politician. The issue of terrorism is a very complex question...”

Yeah. It is really a complex issue in the context of 9/11, especially for the Left in this country and people like “Reverend” Wright, who Obama thought the world of until he got in the way politically and had to be jettisoned.

These people make me sick, building a mosque on that site. If that isn’t an “in your face” maneuver, then nothing is.


38 posted on 08/08/2010 6:20:18 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

WOW. My husband and I went and watched...and LISTENED. I was particularly moved and saddened by the woman trapped in the tower and calling frantically on her phone. Chilling.

I remember that day very vividly; I had dropped my daughter off at the bus stop and went over to my friends house for morning coffee. She got a phone call and her friend told her to turn on the tv, that something was happening in New York. We watched as the tower was burning. I saw a plane hit the tower, I thought it was a replay, but it was actually the SECOND PLANE hitting the tower. I couldn’t believe it.
I knew then life would never be the same. The enemy was within, and it would be hard, if not impossible, to stop them.
I also knew all kinds of policies regarding privacy, security and personal freedoms would be next... and here we are.
I will sign every petition (carefully read first, of course) that opposes this mosque. I have long felt this is a bad idea; after seeing the photos of these people, hearing some of their voices, in the last moments of their lives- I am convinced of it. To build that mosque is a slap in the face to all of those people, AND spitting in the face of our troops.
NO MOSQUE!
NO MOSQUE!
NO MOSQUE!!!!!!!!!!!!


39 posted on 08/08/2010 6:25:19 AM PDT by ThePatrioticArtist (Take two minutes to think long and hard about it, and call me in the morning.)
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To: decimon
I carry a hole in my heart that will never be filled.

Who is this Neda who thinks she can stand in the path of World History and the Seriously Great Mayor Bloomberg?

ML/NJ

40 posted on 08/08/2010 6:34:41 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: decimon

From the article “The Iranian revolution compelled my family to flee to America when I was 12 years old. Yet, just over two decades later, the militant version of our faith caught up with us on a September morning.”

This is a very good piece. It expresses what many people are feeling quite well.

Thanks for posting it.

Her words will fall on deaf ears, of course. Bloomy et al know better. They know better about everything, don’t you know?


41 posted on 08/08/2010 6:38:14 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: decimon

Facebooked.


42 posted on 08/08/2010 6:38:35 AM PDT by sand lake bar
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To: mewzilla

“The Iranians love Mayor Bloomberg....”

Correction > The regime does


43 posted on 08/08/2010 6:43:37 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: AdmSmith; freedom44; Valin; sionnsar; LibreOuMort; Pan_Yans Wife; Army Air Corps; GOPJ; mazda77; ...

pong


44 posted on 08/08/2010 6:48:12 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: expatguy

Yes, this makes us weak and groveling.

Nobody respects a weak groveler.

It makes the Muslims look like manly men. Therefore more attractive to male converts. And, what the hell, maybe some females as well.

Who can stand a metrosexual?


45 posted on 08/08/2010 6:57:12 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: decimon

It’s not a mosque...it’s a base camp, a barracks.

The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets, the faithful our soldiers.

The Base

“The Terrifying Brilliance of the Islamic Memeplex”...

http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2007/10/terrifying-brilliance-of-islamic.html


46 posted on 08/08/2010 6:59:08 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: expatguy; squarebarb; All

BUMP! BUMP! in a thread of great posts.


47 posted on 08/08/2010 7:01:27 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: mewzilla

I worked that area for some years but don’t recall St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church. Looks like the politicians don’t wish to.


48 posted on 08/08/2010 7:04:55 AM PDT by decimon
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To: DJ MacWoW

What a sad mess our “leaders” are. When a Muslim has more sense than a Mayor who is Jewish... if anyone should know what this mosque is about, it is Bloomberg.


49 posted on 08/08/2010 7:24:39 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: PghBaldy
I guess that some Jews just aren't too bright. Or they think it makes them look like good guys for being stupid.

Did you read this? It's a deliciously angry piece that says it straight up!

The Separation Between Muslims and Taste

50 posted on 08/08/2010 7:30:14 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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