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Across Texas, 60,000 babies of noncitizens get U.S. birthright
Dallas Morning News ^ | August 8, 2010 | SHERRY JACOBSON

Posted on 08/08/2010 7:54:03 AM PDT by george76

As Republican members of Congress press for changes to the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, preventing automatic citizenship for babies born to illegal immigrants, opponents insist the debate is not really about babies.

Instead, they say it is about politics and votes – not fixing the immigration system.

Still, the debate could resonate in Texas, where not only 1.5 million illegal immigrants are estimated to reside but at least 60,000 babies are added to their households annually.

Parkland Memorial Hospital delivers more of those babies than any other hospital in the state. Last year at Parkland, 11,071 babies were born to women who were noncitizens, about 74 percent of total deliveries. Most of these women are believed to be in the country illegally.

when the 14th Amendment was written, and the author was quoted as saying that it did not apply to foreigners

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; aliens; anchor; democrats; fail; illegal; illegalimmigrants; illegals; immigrants; immigration; obama

1 posted on 08/08/2010 7:54:04 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

The privilege of citizenship should be based on something more than when your momma pops you out.


2 posted on 08/08/2010 7:57:05 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: george76

Actually conservatives want the government to quit making a joke of the 14th amendment and start applying it as it was written. It never allowed for anchor babies of illegals, in fact was written in such a way as to prevent that.


3 posted on 08/08/2010 7:59:01 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: george76

Maybe it’s time for Mexican illegal internment camps? How else are you going to handle this? They say they can’t round up 12 million illegals. They are aboslutely right. You can’t round them up and deport them........ unless you start the process. If they wanted to start this process, all they have to do is include American citizens in the process and they would have all the help they needed. At the same time, secure the border and make our laws mirror the country that the illegals are coming from.


4 posted on 08/08/2010 8:05:20 AM PDT by RC2 (Remember who we are. "I am America")
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To: yarddog
"... and subject to the jurisdiction thereof..."
5 posted on 08/08/2010 8:08:11 AM PDT by WSGilcrest (I'm just sayin'...)
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To: WSGilcrest
""... and subject to the jurisdiction thereof..." "

YESSSS! That's IT in a nutshell!

6 posted on 08/08/2010 8:19:11 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: george76

I swear, when this Plyler vs. Doe case was decided, the justices claimed it was no big deal because only 36,000 kids in the United States were affected by it. (The public schooling part) That is supposedly what made it okay.

Guess I’ll have to look this up tomorrow.


7 posted on 08/08/2010 8:20:25 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: jackibutterfly

If Mexico has no jurisdiction, then why the hell is Calderon setting up weekends (like here in S. Utah) for the Mexican Consulate to issue Matricula Consular cards, and getting the amigos passports to travel between here and Mexico? Why then, are they going into court to advocate on behalf of their migrants, if Mexico has no jurisdiction?

WTF?


8 posted on 08/08/2010 8:24:02 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: george76

If this disgeraceful practice was instantly curtailed, most of the invaders would vamoose!


9 posted on 08/08/2010 8:26:56 AM PDT by PALIN SMITH (Show them our respectable contempt!)
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To: george76
60,000.

Just think, in another 15 years or so, (maybe earlier than that) these same "citizens" will have quadrupled that number by having even more of their spawn.

10 posted on 08/08/2010 8:33:41 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: george76
The 14th needs to firmly establish who exactly a person is and what is the relationship with citizenry and rights.

As it is, corporate personhood is also granted by the 14th, the GOP, I doubt will want to change that.

11 posted on 08/08/2010 8:34:43 AM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: LucyT; justiceseeker93; null and void

12 posted on 08/08/2010 8:43:54 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: RC2

No camps needed.

If existing laws on employment were enforced, 50% of them would self-deport. If we cleared up the 14th amendment, the rest would go.

I’m here in S. Utah, exactly 6 miles from the AZ border. St. George, Utah.

If people in the rest of the US could see what was going on down here, they would rip their hair out. I’m nearly ready to move back to Ohio to escape this, despite the horrible winters.

When I lived in NE Ohio, until fall of 2006, I couldn’t really understand the big deal, even though I had a close friend in SD, who warned me. Illegal immigration complants were racist, in my mind.

Then I moved here. Holy shit. Folks, it’s a whole other world out there.

I am not heartless. I was on site when ICE busted our place and dragged some of my coworkers away. I was shook up the rest of the day.

That said, finding a job without being bilingual is a challenge. The stories about homes overstuffed with people are no joke. I learned what the term “hotsheeting” was when I moved here. It is also true that nearly all amigos shop for groceries with a foodstamp card (can’t remember what they call it here); I am behind them in line every day. It is also true that they get preferential treatment in ERs. I personaly witnessed an English speaking woman being turned away in Dixie Medical Center because she had no insurance for her child, with 75% of the waiting room being Spanish speaking.

There is NO DAY that I go out to run errands without seeing a mom who is Latino, pushing a stroller with a youngster, with two little ones walking with her. And, she is pregnant. Always pregnant. I love babies as much as anyone, I only had one because that is what we could afford. It never occured to me to have more than that, and hand taxpayers the bill.

Our schools here are ruined, with the ESL requirements. Utah looks the other way on illegals in order to bring converts to the “faith.” Plus, LDS folks are frugal and cheap labor doesn’t bug them. Just ask a waitress. They know if you are from “back east” by how you tip. Mormon’s tip 10% and no more. Their explanation is “The Lord only gets 10%, so that should be good enough for YOU!” I grew up back east; the only way I’d tip 10% is if the server threw the food in my face. I taught my son to calculate a 20% tip when he was 9 years old!

Stop hiring them. Let the wages rise. And quit sticking the taxpayers with the “benefit package.”


13 posted on 08/08/2010 8:45:51 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: george76

The numbers are suspect. San Antonio only shows a little over 1000 births for illegals and it is one of the cities with a lot of them.

Perhaps SA isn’t not even inquiring about citizenship and only recording info if it is offered.


14 posted on 08/08/2010 8:47:59 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: wildbill

Last year at Parkland, 11,071 babies were born to women who were noncitizens, about 74 percent of total deliveries.

Likely, similar percentages elsewhere...even if they are officially reported .


15 posted on 08/08/2010 8:57:58 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: wildbill

It is suspect! San Antonio is little Mexico. I have a liberal morderate friend that lives there(I’m in Dallas) and she says even she’s sick of it and how awful it is.


16 posted on 08/08/2010 9:13:28 AM PDT by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: george76

I’m all for ending the anchor baby syndrome, but let me ask this of the Graham crowd. What happens when the illegals who have the babies get amnesty? ...Stop amnesty, and stop giving citizenship to illegals. This isn’t about the logistics of deporting 20 million people. It is about preserving our sovereignty and our future, and the situation is getting desperate, especially for the millions of Americans who can’t find work. Sure, fix the anchor baby glitch. It should have been done a decades ago. And once that is fixed, fix the stupidity that makes people think amnesty is a solution.


17 posted on 08/08/2010 9:16:58 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Daisyjane69

Question..........what do the people of Utah say about the illegals? Do they want them out or do they just turn their back? Do they care if all their money, tax money, goes to support the illegals? There has to be a limit as to what they will take.

I know were we live, Northern California, everyone I talk to is tired of it and want it stopped. With all the vineyards, casino’s going in, illegals are flocking to this area........as is crime. Car thefts, home breakins, etc.


18 posted on 08/08/2010 10:01:44 AM PDT by RC2 (Remember who we are. "I am America")
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To: RC2

The people here are absolutely FUMING.

They see what I see (as a transplant). Honest to God, if you don’t live near the border, you just can’t imagine.

They tossed out Bennett’s ass over this.

Here’s something you don’t know. The national unemployment rate is supposedly 9.5%. Here in Washington county...St. George, the rate is 9.3%


19 posted on 08/08/2010 10:13:42 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Halls

San Antonio has been majority Hispanic for years but it is made up of mostly multiple-generation, native born Hispanics. Unlike Houston, where I live, almost everyone there speaks English. You do not find a lot of signs in Spanish there either like you do in Houston.


20 posted on 08/08/2010 10:46:15 AM PDT by hout8475
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To: george76
At least 60,000 babies are added to their households *annually*.

Don't mess with Texas...lol..

21 posted on 08/08/2010 12:46:21 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Halls
San Antonio is little Mexico. I have a liberal morderate friend that lives there(I’m in Dallas) and she says even she’s sick of it and how awful it is.

One town, one city, one state at a time....

22 posted on 08/08/2010 12:49:33 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: george76
Last year at Parkland, 11,071 babies were born to women who were noncitizens, about 74 percent of total deliveries

Ya know if this is happening in Texas...It's all over folks!

At this rate, they'll eventually turn the Alamo into a free prenatal care facility for illegal aliens...

23 posted on 08/08/2010 12:56:33 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Daisyjane69
I’m here in St. George, Utah. If people in the rest of the US could see what was going on down here, they would rip their hair out. Then I moved here. Holy shit. Folks, it’s a whole other world out there.

If the people don't wake the hell up soon, when they eventually do, they'll find America dead on the floor.

This is what D.C. wants...A fragmented society, a population of ignorant, uneducated, low wage tax slaves that are easily led, and support big government socialism... Is there anyone out here that fails to understand this?

24 posted on 08/08/2010 1:13:08 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: All

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Help Texas watch her borders.
Watch live on 14 cameras and report illegal alien invaders.
Night cams in operation

http://www.blueservo.net/index.php?error=nlg

Does it work? Yes.
Recently caught on cam and reported:
String of illegals running through brush with backpacks
Numerous sightings of boats crossing the river
Numerous vehicles late at night in isolated areas
IMMENSELY satisfying

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25 posted on 08/08/2010 1:14:04 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: patriot08
I hate to tell ya, but that's a waste of time....Designed to appease some of the people...Make them think big-gov is doing something....

IMMENSELY satisfying

Like I said...It's just a pacifier....Nothing more.

26 posted on 08/08/2010 1:49:04 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: george76; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ...
Across Texas, 60,000 babies of noncitizens get U.S. birthright

As Republican members of Congress press for changes to the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, preventing automatic citizenship for babies born to illegal immigrants, opponents insist the debate is not really about babies.

Instead, they say it is about politics and votes – not fixing the immigration system.

Still, the debate could resonate in Texas, where not only 1.5 million illegal immigrants are estimated to reside but at least 60,000 babies are added to their households annually.

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Last year at Parkland, 11,071 babies were born to women who were noncitizens, about 74 percent of total deliveries. Most of these women are believed to be in the country illegally.

[Thanks george76.]

27 posted on 08/08/2010 2:21:40 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: george76

Kudos to the Dallas Morning News for a good investigative article.


28 posted on 08/08/2010 2:38:55 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Daisyjane69

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. What I was agreeing to, is they don’t have jurisdiction HERE, in the USA. Therefore, they cannot be a citizen just by being born. The parents would have to have jurisdiction (be a US citizen) here, in the USA, in order for their children to become US citizens. Right now, they don’t; thus, NO CITIZENSHIP FOR THEIR CHILDREN!


29 posted on 08/08/2010 3:15:36 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: dragnet2

IF it’s not stopped AND REVERSED right freaking now... In 30 years you will see Balkan style ethnic cleansing in Texas, AZ and etc.. And it will be the Mexicans that will be doing the cleansing of YOU.


30 posted on 08/08/2010 3:34:54 PM PDT by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: LucyT
Last year at Parkland, 11,071 babies were born to women who were noncitizens, about 74 percent of total deliveries. Most of these women are believed to be in the country illegally.

What's that, 900 per month at one single hospital in Texas?

Gezzz..

[Thanks george76.]

You bet.....Bttt

31 posted on 08/08/2010 5:18:42 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Jedidah
Kudos to the Dallas Morning News for a good investigative article.

No doubt their getting flack for revealing the truth....Even some here are not happy with news like this.....The truth just kills them.

32 posted on 08/08/2010 5:20:26 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: NeverForgetBataan
IF it’s not stopped AND REVERSED right freaking now... In 30 years you will see Balkan style ethnic cleansing in Texas, AZ and etc.. And it will be the Mexicans that will be doing the cleansing

You bet... I could not agree more.

It's a wholesale sellout of the U.S.

33 posted on 08/08/2010 5:22:05 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: george76

¿Tiene leche materna?


34 posted on 08/08/2010 8:13:43 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: taxcontrol

Sadly, all future Democrat voters!


35 posted on 08/08/2010 8:18:46 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: SkyPilot

It’s a wholesale sellout of the U.S.

bttt


36 posted on 08/08/2010 9:01:47 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: taxcontrol
The privilege of citizenship should be based on something more than when your momma pops you out.

Maybe people will pay attention when the Alamo is turned into a maternity ward for illegals.

37 posted on 08/08/2010 9:04:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: george76
Last year at Parkland, 11,071 babies were born to women who were noncitizens, about 74 percent of total deliveries.

I'd like to see Parkland release the figures covering the past two decades.

This has been going on for years.

38 posted on 08/08/2010 9:24:32 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Just wow...

And don't miss daisyjane69's stunning post #13.

39 posted on 08/08/2010 9:51:19 PM PDT by nutmeg (Another "smartass" for lower taxes)
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To: george76

Great editorial cartoon!


40 posted on 08/09/2010 11:55:58 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: dragnet2
What's that, 900 per month at one single hospital in Texas?

That's one every 36 minutes, 24/7.

41 posted on 08/09/2010 11:57:34 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: RC2

Here is something that should be of great interest for you to pass around.

Back during The Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work.

Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal’s after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans.

And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 4 million Mexican nationals! The program was called ‘Operation Wetback’ so that American WWII and Korean veterans had a better chance at jobs. It took 2 Years, but they deported them!

Now, if they could deport the illegals back then, they can sure do it today!!

If you have doubts about the veracity of this information, enter Operation Wetback into your favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself.


42 posted on 08/09/2010 12:10:23 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: george76

Thousands May Lose Rental Vouchers
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/nyregion/07voucher.html?_r=3


43 posted on 08/09/2010 12:24:40 PM PDT by goldendays (that)
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To: george76

This needs stopped but this and illegal immigration issues have been ongoing for a long time.

I am sick and tired of them only becoming important around elections and then NOTHING EVER GETS DONE.


44 posted on 08/09/2010 12:33:24 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: george76
Last year at Parkland, 11,071 babies were born to women who were noncitizens

And I'll bet that every single one of them entered the hospital through the emergency room and that not one of them paid a single dime to the hospital for the services rendered.

45 posted on 08/09/2010 12:58:53 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Satan is a Democrat and Obama is his minion.)
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To: Daisyjane69
If people in the rest of the US could see what was going on down here, they would rip their hair out. I’m nearly ready to move back to Ohio to escape this, despite the horrible winters.

They're infiltrating the whole country.
46 posted on 08/09/2010 1:59:38 PM PDT by crosshairs (Celebrate diversity. Own a variety of firearms.)
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To: pallis; george76; RC2

“What happens when the illegals who have the babies get amnesty?”

Well, then not only will their babies be citizens, but they can legally sponsor all their relatives to come over as well.

Amnesty has the potential of emptying Mexico!


47 posted on 08/09/2010 10:44:38 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: dragnet2

They’ll probably open it in the basement.


48 posted on 08/09/2010 10:48:44 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: Daisyjane69

Do any of the Federalist Papers discuss the 14th?

I think this was devised for the slaves.


49 posted on 08/10/2010 7:12:31 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: CPT Clay

It was.

But go to Section 5.

It gives CONGRESS the authority to manage it.

We do not need to change the 14th Amendment. They gave Congress the power.


50 posted on 08/10/2010 7:14:53 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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