Skip to comments.Official: immigration law could hurt poultry biz
Posted on 08/08/2010 10:28:07 AM PDT by Principled
More than a week after a judge blocks parts of Arizona's immigration law, the executive director of a Georgia Latino group said if that law is passed in the peach state, the poultry industry would feel the fallout.
Jerry Gonzalez with the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials said anywhere between 40 and 50 percent of the workforce in the poultry industry is illegal.
"If we were to remove 40 to 50 percent of the workforce, would our economy suffer," Gonzalez asked during WDUN's The Local Hour Friday morning. "The answer to that is yes."
He said lawmakers need to question whether or not the North Georgia economy can withstand the kind of negative economic impact an Arizona-type law might have.
Gonzalez said the tax strain on the local level caused by illegal immigrants should be considered but so should the contributions of illegals to the livelihood of North Georgia's economy.
So their "leader" says it will do harm to the economy to enforce the law? Notwithstanding the peculiarity of that statement - he gives no evidence that it's true. Further, should it even matter?
Ya think w/ Ga's 10%+ unemployment that the industry would find workers?!
IDIOTS these illegals' leaders are... IDIOTS.
No chicken? We’re doomed! Doomed!
lulz.......some ridiculous BS these days.....
When it comes to the left leaners, up is down and down is up.
OK. That’s it. I give up.
We must immediately give up all thoughts of protecting our sovereignity because to do so might inconvenience the poultry business.
They economy wouldn’t be hurt.
The plants would be forced to pay fair wages and benefits.
I think he means Mexico’s economy but wants us to think otherwise.
At one time this industry paid Americans $18/hr with full benefits. Now they pay illegals $6/hr with no benefits. What happened? Did poultry really become that much cheaper?
Well TOUGH you idiots !
Well TOUGH you idiots !
So there’s nobody unemployed in Georgia?
Uh, that’s not good enough.
You raise the wages until you get employees. Period.
Don’t sweat it. I’ll pay more for my stuff if I know I’m hiring Americans, sparky.
It’s high time Americans grow their own damn food again and stop depending on foreign labor.
I wonder what the Georgia Association of Caucasian Elected Officials thinks about this.
Oh poo. I guess some of those ill-gotten, illegal, profits made by using underpaid illegal labor will have to be spent on hiring legal workers.
This is the exact justification the cotton planters in the south used before the civil war.
In order to pay fair wages and benefits (assuming the illegals are paid for less or neither) will cause the price of chicken to rise, assuming the producers want to maintain current profit levels. If pricing is resistant to upward increases, it will force the producers to create more efficient production methods for chicken processing. Whichever way it goes, higher chicken prices can’t be anywhere near as bad as what it costs to educate, provide medical care, and foodstamps to illegals and their offspring, all subsidized by you and me (either legally or fraudulently), the taxpayer. Even if all the food processors, landscapers and cheap construction workers were to leave the work force, America would find a way to bridge the gap, whether putting legal Americans back to work, etc. Prices will adjust according to supply and demand, if Americans can’t readily afford one thing, they’ll adjust the way they always have. No big deal.
Dont sweat it. Ill pay more for my stuff if I know Im hiring Americans, sparky.
BINGO! And the fact is you won't pay more because a tighter labor market will lead to innovation and greater efficiency.
That's right. Let the market work.
WTH, my Wife has been wanting some yard birds for quite a while. Never know what you’re getting with the processed birds anyhow.
It’s not 2005, it’s 2010 and the unemployment rate is a %9+.
Yep. It's little different from slave labor and we tried that business model before.
Want to solve the problem of illegal immigration? Start throwing the people who hire them into prison.
“?”If we were to remove 40 to 50 percent of the workforce, would our economy suffer,” Gonzalez asked during WDUN’s The Local Hour Friday morning. “The answer to that is yes.”
Slave owners made that same argument in Georgia some time back.
Raising prices will cause consumers to buy less chicken. Don't forget that chicken, as well as any other consumer product, is priced at the highest level that will allow producers to make the most profit. Consumers' purchasing less chicken as a result of raising prices will encourage innovation and more automation in the chicken processing industry so that prices can come down.
So, there are a whole lot of poultry companies who are breaking the law too. Yeah, you can’t let a thing like obeying the law get in the way. While we’re at it let’s forget the regulations on food safety too. What the heck.
Meanwhile the fed govt is making it harder and harder to grow your own food or buy locally.
Its not like you can just get anyone off the streets to do that job. It takes years and years of training.
I'm willing to pay a bit more for chicken, if it means foreign lawbreakers are sent home and Americans can get their jobs back at higher wages.
That's EXACTLY what happend in North Georgia sveral years back when raids sent many illegals home and the rest scattered like roaches.
Make it harder to get welfare benefits and people will be begging for those jobs.
Unemployed consumers also buy less chicken.
“BINGO! And the fact is you won’t pay more because a tighter labor market will lead to innovation and greater efficiency.”
Higher compensation may also force the firms to relocate. There are other factors involved in relocation so I am not sure if the higher compensation will be enough for relocation.
I admit that enforcement of immigration laws will cause some changes in economic activity. I think the changes will be overcome by the savings in overal societal costs. I also think that some industries could make a reasonable case for a guest worker program (I am not sure about the poultry industry). I might support expansions of guest worker programs with strict conditions about visas, family migration, and other conditions.
Illegals working in those packing plants for low wages is BS! They make plenty, far over min wage.
Come to north Georgia (Gainesville), and we'll show anyone very specifically.
By his words Jerry Gonzalez is a bigot; racistly defending the felony of illegal immigration.
One may be from anywhere on the planet, but one enters America, as any other nation, through the front door. It's called civilization and respect.
Gee Chicken might go from 1.49/pd to 1.53/pd. Horrors!
>>Raising prices will cause consumers to buy less chicken.<<
Raising prices will cause my wife to seriously consider becoming a chicken farmer. She wears her bibbed overalls most everywhere as it is so I don’t reckon the neighbors will look down their noses at her.
You were first! And interestingly your handle is YANKEEREB...
You were first! And interestingly your handle is YANKEEREB...
thank you. You are right. Very well said. ANd thanks for bringing in the justification used by the salve-owners.
The natural progression is that higher labor costs stimulate the engineering of labor-saving machinery, which could then be exported. Low-cost labor (whether local illegals or offshore) inhibits this.
The guy is nuts.... but worst case small local businesses might have a chance against these huge food producers. I miss those businesses.
The overall cost to the economy would probably be lower, since the costs borne to educate the illegals' children and provide free medical care wouldn't be shifted to society at large, and unemployed Americans currently being supported by the government would have more available jobs. Chicken might cost a few pennies more, but everything else would cost a bit less, and we wouldn't be building a balkanized culture of unassimilable foreigners whose allegiance lies elswehere.
I'm sure if we got to using it for their Latino spokespersons the Leftwingtards would run screaming down the hill their hair on fire!~
All the workers were Americans.
As a new employee (head for college) I got $1.75 per hour minimum wage (at the time),
Some of our cutters were making $15.00 per hour, which was nearly as much as the foundry guys at Allison who did engine blocks.
Today even the supervisors in such an operation would work entirely in a Spanish speaking environment ~ and NO ONE ON THE LINE would also be trained in detecting any one of over 300 different diseases poultry can acquire.
Your chicken isn't safe today folks ~
My neighbor sells eggs and he said an Ag Dep’t guy came around and wanted to know if his chickens were registered.
He says he told the guy to get off his property.
So he did. For how long?
this has GOT to stop.
Chances are the guy will be back with the sheriff.
And it probably wouldn't even raise the price. Might even lower it.