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O'Malley's spy cameras (Maryland governor uses tax dollars to track your every move)
washingtontimes.com ^ | 08/09/10 | washingtontimes.com

Posted on 08/08/2010 1:09:00 PM PDT by goldendays

With great fanfare, Gov. Martin O'Malley on Wednesday announced his use of your tax dollars to track every move made by Maryland motorists. The Democratic chief executive will spend $2 million in federal grants to double the number of roadside and mobile spy cameras, with the data centrally collected at a "fusion center" accessible to government bureaucrats.ike speed cameras and red-light cameras, Mr. O'Malley's license-plate recognition cameras photograph the plates of passing motorists. Within a matter of seconds, a computer system looks up the vehicle owner's identity and cross-references it against a "wanted" list after recording the time, date and GPS coordinates of the vehicle. All of this information will be stored at the Maryland Coordination and Analysis Center located in Woodlawn, just outside Baltimore. Mr. O'Malley's plan is unique insofar as it allows tracking of persons of interest using cameras located in dozens of local jurisdictions. "We believe it's the first," Maryland State Police spokesman Gregory M. Shipley told The Washington Times. "It's certainly one of the first to network police [agencies] together like this."

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1 posted on 08/08/2010 1:09:02 PM PDT by goldendays
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To: goldendays

The state knows all and sees all.
2 posted on 08/08/2010 1:11:53 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: goldendays

And these same libs complained of monitoring phone calls of TERRORISTS under the evil Bush administration after 911.


3 posted on 08/08/2010 1:12:56 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: bamahead; traviskicks

The Libertarian ping list has much to point out.


4 posted on 08/08/2010 1:13:33 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

One 308 round per camera.


5 posted on 08/08/2010 1:14:00 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: goldendays; trooprally; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; shezza; incredulous joe; Abundy; hellinahandcart

I hate this state.


6 posted on 08/08/2010 1:14:28 PM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Unfortunately, there are very few Republicans in the Maryland state legislature.


7 posted on 08/08/2010 1:14:33 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: goldendays

Just so I have this straight - you can’t ask people who might be illegal aliens for the ID they’re supposed to carry after they get stopped for a crime but it’s okay to spy on law abiding citizens and track their location when they haven’t done anything wrong.


8 posted on 08/08/2010 1:21:59 PM PDT by hometoroost (McCain is a Ron and Nancy Republican: Campaigns like Reagan, governs like Pelosi)
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To: muddler

What happens when they go to satellite like the Brits are going to start using soon? Do you have a bullet big enough to reach it?


9 posted on 08/08/2010 1:22:06 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

bttt


10 posted on 08/08/2010 1:24:06 PM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: goldendays

Isn’t Maryland the state where they made it a felony to videotape encounters with LE?

Video for me...but not for thee.


11 posted on 08/08/2010 1:26:25 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: goldendays

The Stasi would have loved something like this.

Dhimmis are fascists as well as cowards.


12 posted on 08/08/2010 1:27:18 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: goldendays

parasites and worse


13 posted on 08/08/2010 1:29:32 PM PDT by gunnyg (WE ARE BEHIND "ENEMY WITHIN" LINES, SURROUNDED, Our 'Novembers' Are Behind Us...If Ya Can "grok" it!)
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To: goldendays

I can’t believe the whacked out Lefty’s support stuff like this. Aren’t they supposed to be uber-Civil Libertarians ?


14 posted on 08/08/2010 1:30:19 PM PDT by major-pelham
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To: goldendays

How about tracking every move of the Elitists in government? Watch all the monies handed to them under the table or their dirty deeds in the dark of night?


15 posted on 08/08/2010 1:36:59 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: major-pelham

“I can’t believe the whacked out Lefty’s support stuff like this. Aren’t they supposed to be uber-Civil Libertarians ?”

You got it back asswards. Lefty’s are like Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini.

Anyone with a decent education would know that. What we weren’t taught was that Hitler was a vegetarian queer, poor Eva Braun complained she would only be having anal sex.


16 posted on 08/08/2010 1:40:45 PM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: Mark
And these same libs complained of monitoring phone calls of TERRORISTS under the evil Bush administration after 911.

Probably they sold it in gov't circles as a way to gain information on terrorists' movements *after the fact*, to aid in criminal prosecution of the perps. Just look how well the prosecution of the 1st 9-11 attack (car bomb in the underground garage) did to preven the 2nd 9-11 (passenger jets flown into the buildings).

NO cheers, unfortunately. We should be keeping jihadists out of the country altogether.

17 posted on 08/08/2010 1:40:53 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Go after the center where the data is downloaded!
18 posted on 08/08/2010 1:42:30 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: goldendays
announced his use of your tax dollars to track every move made by Maryland motorists

This is an exaggeration.

They are simply using technology to substitute for a “boot on the ground.” Surely you don’t complain that the Air Force uses a predator drone controlled by an airman in Nevada to take out a bad guy in Afghanistan?

They are not spying. They are enforcing the existing laws with technology instead of people.

What freedom is being lost, other than the freedom to break a law? And you still have that freedom, it just becomes a bit more expensive because you will be caught more often. I understand this is simply a tax increase, but I don't see freedom being lost through better enforcement of existing laws.

19 posted on 08/08/2010 2:03:58 PM PDT by FatherofFive (0bama is dangerous and must be stopped.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Lets change that. This url has info for local, state and federal 2010 candidates accross the state. With links to their campaign sites.

http://www.gopinmaryland.com/


20 posted on 08/08/2010 2:05:30 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: FatherofFive

They will store the info, it is guaranteed. They will use it for who knows what.


21 posted on 08/08/2010 2:09:54 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: FatherofFive

more money for the Government


22 posted on 08/08/2010 2:11:45 PM PDT by goldendays (that)
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To: goldendays

Here’s an idea - how about installing spy cameras in government agencies so we know the employees are all really working.


23 posted on 08/08/2010 2:16:28 PM PDT by Tom A
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Isn’t Maryland the state where they made it a felony to videotape encounters with LE?

Isn't that some bu!!$h!+? But, as long as there's no audio, it's legal in Maryland.

24 posted on 08/08/2010 2:32:58 PM PDT by Engineer_Soldier (Republican Liberty Caucus (RLC.org))
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To: Eagles2003
You got it back asswards. Lefty’s are like Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini.

As do you. Conservatives want to use big government to further their ideals as well (Bush wanted to overrule states' rights to pursue marijuana charges; almost every conservative was for the PATRIOT ACT which allowed big government to trace you, track you, and monitor your finances; McCain tried going after the sports supplement industry with big nanny government; almost all conservatives used the Defense of Marriage Act to federally define marriage and impose the federal definition onto the states; and, the list goes on and on); we haven't had a champion for the Constitution in a long, long time in the White House. The only people to truly stand up for liberty and the Constitution within our grand party is the Republican Liberty Caucus.

25 posted on 08/08/2010 2:40:56 PM PDT by Engineer_Soldier (Republican Liberty Caucus (RLC.org))
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To: FatherofFive

This IS spying. Maryland is not using the data only to hunt for criminals. They are also building a database of citizen movement that will be used at a later time for purposes that are not yet evident. This is Maryland, remember.

The freedom that is lost is the freedom from government surveillance.


26 posted on 08/08/2010 2:47:31 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: jimtorr
Maryland is not using the data only to hunt for criminals.

This is the big IF.

IF they would track all vehicles that went to a mosque known for spreading the terrorist message, I'm all for it. IF they tracked all vehicles going to a known violent gang house - think of the FBI at the Corleone wedding - I'm all for that too. If in the process they track me driving by the Corleone house, I really wouldn't show up in their output.

I'm for giving good cops all the tools they need to catch the bad guys, and make my life safer.

I actually have more faith in statistical analysis of data than an opinion.

So what do you believe "Big Maryland" is going to do with this data?

27 posted on 08/08/2010 3:00:59 PM PDT by FatherofFive (0bama is dangerous and must be stopped.)
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To: jimtorr

Maryland is a freak state. Maryland is so full of LIBs/DIMs/Commies/Lefties and other intellectual trash that this is nothing. Maryland also is a “sanctuary” state for illegals. Maryland also curbs your 2nd amendment rights. Maryland (mainly the WDC suburbs and Baltimore is Cretin Control. Takoma Park (a nuke-free zone) has allowed illegal aliens to vote in their elections for years. FREAK STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


28 posted on 08/08/2010 3:03:41 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: sauropod

“Maryland” is one of the states on my “No way in hell would I ever live there” list. Unfortunately, that list is growing.


29 posted on 08/08/2010 3:07:55 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The rallying cry of American patriots.....REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!)
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To: FatherofFive

How many ways could YOU use the data if it were in YOUR hands Daddio?

‘A government big enough to collect all the data possible, is big enough to use that data any damn way it wishes’.

Think about it.


30 posted on 08/08/2010 3:10:25 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: FatherofFive
So what do you believe "Big Maryland" is going to do with this data?

That is the $29 question. Given who controls this state, they will find a way. One possible use is billing people for travel through heavy traffic areas. There have already been proposals for that in Baltimore, but everyone thought that was crazy. Now here is a way to manage the billing.

I have now thought of a number of ways to use the database for espionage, to compromise operational security of any number of Govt. agencies. Since I am security for my company, I think I'll report this possibility tomorrow.

31 posted on 08/08/2010 3:15:55 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Maryland was 50th on my list of top 50 states to move to when I lost my job. Unfortunately, the only company that wanted to hire me was located here, so I had to move to the socialist paradise. I work in Baltimore but live 30 miles northeast where more sanity seems to reign.


32 posted on 08/08/2010 3:18:38 PM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: goldendays

Some western state installed cameras and shortened the yellow signal time to increase revenues. It created more accidents and didn’t generate enough revenue to pay for itself.


33 posted on 08/08/2010 3:21:32 PM PDT by donhunt (Where does this totalitarian ashwipe get off telling me I can't chose for myself?)
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To: jimtorr
One possible use is billing people for travel through heavy traffic areas.

I do a lot of business in Dallas. They have a toll highway that runs parallel to a road with many stoplights. I gladly pay this “use” tax. It saves me time and money.

But if Maryland is going to simply charge people more with no benefit, that is just another tax.

Still don’t see a threat to my liberty.

I’d just move to Texas.

34 posted on 08/08/2010 3:34:49 PM PDT by FatherofFive (0bama is dangerous and must be stopped.)
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To: cyclotic

It would almost be worth your while to consider commuting down I-83 from Stewartstown, Shrewsbury, or even Glen Rock Pennsylvania, I know people who did that for years.


35 posted on 08/08/2010 3:45:14 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

We considered it but we home school our kids and believe it or not, home school laws in PA a pathetically draconian, rahter than just intrusinve in MD. (They were completely non-existent in MI)


36 posted on 08/08/2010 3:55:02 PM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2566910/posts
The Coming American Police State


37 posted on 08/08/2010 4:01:06 PM PDT by goldendays (that)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The Coming American Police State
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=queM4c-W048


38 posted on 08/08/2010 4:02:01 PM PDT by goldendays (that)
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To: cyclotic

Wow, I was not aware of that home schooling environment IRT Pennsylvania, it wasn’t always like that to the best of my knowledge.

At least you can enjoy those famous Maryland Crab Cakes, I’ve not had any in many years! LOL


39 posted on 08/08/2010 4:02:22 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
The Democratic chief executive will spend $2 million in federal grants to double the number of roadside and mobile spy cameras
The next great idea for an internet video website!
40 posted on 08/08/2010 5:25:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: FatherofFive
What freedom is being lost, other than the freedom to break a law? And you still have that freedom, it just becomes a bit more expensive because you will be caught more often. I understand this is simply a tax increase, but I don't see freedom being lost through better enforcement of existing laws.

I suspect the primary purpose of the system is to monitor the movements of, and facilitate the surveillance of, people who are disliked for "political" reasons.

41 posted on 08/08/2010 5:36:43 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: mkjessup

Me neither. Can’t afford ‘em


42 posted on 08/08/2010 5:55:02 PM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Unfortunately, there are very few Republicans in the Maryland state legislature.

Remember, Bush and many other republicans created the DHS in 2001/2002. This agency doled out grants for cameras left and right and this was while the GOP held both houses and the Presidency. They gave a grant to some town in the middle of no where AK to put 80 cameras. Don't think that electing a republican will stop the surveillance society from growing. At the very least it needs to be a non-establishment person.

If I were running for office part of my platform would be "privacy and civil liberties" (not including illegals) and I guarantee that would attract swing voters.

When people learn about this stuff they start hating it.

43 posted on 08/08/2010 6:11:59 PM PDT by Aglooka (Posting from New Hampshachusetts (Formerly New Hampshire))
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To: goldendays; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


44 posted on 08/08/2010 6:30:23 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Michelle Obama: the woman who ended "Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.")
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To: Eagles2003

Are you saying that Eva Braun was just a beard and a sexual boy-substitute for Hitler? And if so, from where did you get this information?


45 posted on 08/08/2010 6:33:23 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Michelle Obama: the woman who ended "Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.")
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To: mkjessup

Hell, we had guys commuting to Towson from York, our department was originally in that location.

I moved to MD with the intention of moving to SE York county, I would’ve ended up leaving home at 6:30AM and getting back after sports at maybe 9:00PM. Now the traffic is worse.

If you work in Hunt Valley it makes a big difference, even the trip from HV to Towson can be a painful trek.

I don’t envy the trip down I-95 every morning. MD drivers from the north side of Baltimore are lousy, cell phones has made their inattention and spreading out all over the highway worse. Forget the fast lane there’s probably someone parked in it, possibly reading a book or paper while driving.

95 turns into a parking lot above the split at Rosedale every morning. I tried going north once on 95 at 4AM and the southbound lanes were packed and looked like rush hour years ago.


46 posted on 08/08/2010 6:35:22 PM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: goldendays

Ehrlich or Murphy, whichever one wins the primary, should take the contents of this editorial and pount them home to the voters of Maryland every chance they get. They can conclude their commercials with “Martin O’Malley IS the surveillance state!”


47 posted on 08/08/2010 6:42:33 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Michelle Obama: the woman who ended "Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.")
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To: goldendays

“Maryland Coordination and Analysis Center located in Woodlawn, just outside Baltimore.”

Interesting, because Woodlawn is a pillar of moral and civil superiority.


48 posted on 08/08/2010 6:52:54 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

“Isn’t Maryland the state where they made it a felony to videotape encounters with LE?

“Video for me...but not for thee.”

They’ll just say you’re in public so you have no expectation of privacy. Just like the cop...oh, er...not.


49 posted on 08/08/2010 6:55:26 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: major-pelham

They only care about sex-related freedom. Everything else - it’s “what’s good for you”.

I mean, these are the same people who started the safety-belt stops and child-helmet laws, because it’s “for your safety”.


50 posted on 08/08/2010 6:57:18 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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