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Republicans seek to handcuff Democrats in lame-duck session
The Hill ^ | August 8, 2010 | Molly K. Hooper

Posted on 08/08/2010 2:10:13 PM PDT by jazusamo

The House will vote next week on a Republican measure that would prevent Democratic leaders from passing controversial policy initiatives during a lame-duck session of Congress this year.

Republican Study Committee (RSC) Chairman Rep. Tom Price (Ga.) introduced the privileged resolution last Thursday in response to reports that Democratic leaders told their base that they could move big-ticket legislation after the November elections and before the new Congress convenes in January.

Price explained that his resolution says that a lame-duck session should not occur unless there were to be a national emergency.

“When [Senate Majority Leader] Harry Reid [D-Nev.] and Speaker [Nancy] Pelosi [D-Calif.] began talking about telling their folks not to worry, about 'card check' [legislation], not to worry about the national energy tax, not to worry about a continued increased spending, that they had a plan to do this in a lame-duck session after the election, we began thinking and talking about what options we had, and this was one of them,” Price told The Hill in an interview on Friday.

Because Price's measure is a privileged resolution, House Democratic leaders cannot block it from receiving a vote.

Both Republicans and Democrats have moved significant bills in lame-duck sessions over the last decade.

Reid has scheduled the Senate to be in session on Nov. 15, nearly two weeks after the mid-term elections. The House has not yet released its lame-duck schedule.

Political insiders predict major GOP gains in the fall, which would make it politically difficult for Democrats to move the hot-button items.

Reid suggested at a conference of liberal bloggers last week that Democrats could pass major policy reforms that have stagnated thus far – like immigration reform – in the short window between Nov. 2 and Jan. 3, 2011, when the new Congress will be sworn in.

A key House Democratic leader recently shot down the notion that his party would move controversial measures after the election.

Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) Chairman Chris Van Hollen (Md.) on Friday called the idea “nonsense" during an interview.

“This whole effort to whip up hysteria as if there’s some secret plan to do stuff in the lame-duck session is just nonsense. This is a scare tactic at its very worst, they are trying to spread the notion that there’s a plan to do major legislation in a lame duck session – there isn’t. There just isn’t,” Van Hollen said on a conference call with reporters.

Saying that he hadn’t read Price’s entire resolution, Van Hollen refrained from taking a position on the measure set for a vote on Tuesday, shortly after the House votes on a $26.1 billion bill on education and Medicaid funding.

Some Democrats are concerned that the White House will push for long-stalled trade deals in the lame-duck session.

President Obama last month that said he would submit three controversial trade agreements to Congress “as soon as possible.” The trade deals he wants Congress to pass are with South Korea, Panama and Colombia. Most Republicans back the trade pacts.

Other bills that could come up in the lame-duck session include appropriations, extending some or all of President George W. Bush's tax cuts and food safety. However, Democratic leaders could finish work on these bills in September and early October.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Georgia; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: 111th; california; georgia; lameducksession; maryland; pelosi; price; privilegedresolution
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1 posted on 08/08/2010 2:10:17 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

The Republicans are believing all the stories about taking over both chambers, and getting ahead of themselves. I like this, but hope they focus on actually winning the elections. There re too many ‘conservative’ challengers out there splitting the vote, see DE and FL, among others. We may end up with a gloating Nancy and Harry again.


2 posted on 08/08/2010 2:13:35 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: jazusamo

Nothing these sewer-dwellers do would surprise me.Rules don’t apply to them-especially when they have nothing to lose.


3 posted on 08/08/2010 2:13:50 PM PDT by pistolpetestoys (Outside of a dog a book is a mans best friend;inside a dog it's too dark to read.)
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To: jazusamo

The Freakin Republicans had Better grow a Pair between Now and November or they will be stopping Nothing


4 posted on 08/08/2010 2:14:07 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: jazusamo

“Price explained that his resolution says that a lame-duck session should not occur unless there were to be a national emergency.”

They already have some crisis ready to orchestrate at the drop of a hat anyway, so this means not much.


5 posted on 08/08/2010 2:15:04 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: EDINVA

I hear you. They force the vote on this then forget it, if the Dems defeat it it will be on the record. The Repubs had better concentrate on winning seats.


6 posted on 08/08/2010 2:16:59 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: rockinqsranch

You’re probably right and I don’t believe Chris Van Hollen for a second when he says this lame duck thing is nonsense.


7 posted on 08/08/2010 2:19:21 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I would like to trust Van Hollen. But we can’t. The Democrats are totally untrustworthy. Most are liars. Most are anti-American. The same can be said for quite a few in the GOP.

Proactive actions have to be taken with the knowledge that Pelosi and Reid are of evil intent.


8 posted on 08/08/2010 2:19:43 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (DeMint 2012)
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To: jazusamo

Handcuff??

I will not settle for anything short of keel-hauling.

I can see November from my house.


9 posted on 08/08/2010 2:19:55 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: jazusamo

The Democrats are never going to let that pass. Everybody needs to corner their congressweasel during recess and ask them if they will vote for x after election day regardless of who wins. See what they say.


10 posted on 08/08/2010 2:19:58 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: jazusamo

LOL! This legislation has zero chance. The Dems plan to finish their agenda in the lameduck session. The only thing that can stop it is united Republican opposition in the Senate and we all know how likely that is.


11 posted on 08/08/2010 2:21:34 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: jazusamo
Exactly. Playing legislative judo with the Dems is ultimately fruitless and bears no real change.

Concentrate on defeating them at the ballot box and run them out of town. Like cockroaches.

Michael Steele is a huge problem that needs to be addressed.

He is clearly an egotistical self-serving ass who has zero killer instinct.

If the GOP falls flat in Nov, he must be unceremoniously sacked. Better yet, do it now.

12 posted on 08/08/2010 2:22:44 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: Howie66

Keel-hauling works for me too. C’mon November!


13 posted on 08/08/2010 2:23:27 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: saganite

I believe you’re right but if the Dems try this lame duck thing I believe people will be so ticked off it will hold the Repubs together in the Senate.


14 posted on 08/08/2010 2:27:15 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

The OP(formerly the GOP) should not return to D.C for the lame duck session.


15 posted on 08/08/2010 2:28:33 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: jazusamo

My dream at this point is that we can get enough responsible, patriotic Americans into office in both the House and the Senate, that we can hit the deck running with IMPEACHMENT proceedings before next summer.

I do believe that this is within the realm of the very possible.

We just need to make it happen.

For the sake of our country.


16 posted on 08/08/2010 2:31:10 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: Howie66

I believe it’s a possibility also though a slim one.

I think it depends on gaining enough seats in both houses to get the attention of some patriotic Dems that will support it. Everyone knows there have already been grounds for bringing charges against him.


17 posted on 08/08/2010 2:35:53 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

“I don’t believe Chris Van Hollen for a second when he says this lame duck thing is nonsense.”

Good rule of thumb: don’t believe Chris Van Hollen if he tells you today os Sunday.


18 posted on 08/08/2010 2:43:41 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA
absolutely NONE of this will come to pass.

For that past 1 1/2 years, I keep seeing things come up and saying to myself "they wouldn't dare" , and then they do.

They are not bound by ethics, not a single one of them. They know full well they can do just whatever they want and the average idiot American will forget before 2012 and Olberman/Mathers and the rest of them will be able to spin their way out of it with relentless propaganda.

At BEST the republicans will kill off the house majority and pickup a few seats in the senate. The votes are split too much and the Republican party will not sign on with the movement, they want to continue doing what they have always done. Only a couple more decades of losses will change their minds as the old and corrupt die off and the party becomes irrelevant. I'm afraid we are stuck here for a while.

19 posted on 08/08/2010 2:44:30 PM PDT by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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To: jazusamo; Howie66

Never gonna happen.


20 posted on 08/08/2010 2:49:35 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

A few years ago I would have said the same thing about a Mosque being built on Ground Zero, or that we would have an America Hating Marxist in our WH.

You go with the idea that you are going to fail, then fail you will.

I say that we can do this. Not that it will be easy.


21 posted on 08/08/2010 3:02:06 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: jazusamo

If Christine wins her Senate seat in Delaware, then this discussion is moot. She would be sworn in immediately, instead of Jan 5th.


22 posted on 08/08/2010 3:06:57 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Howie66

Mass keel-haulings that takes 1/2 hour round-trip will be the way to treat em. Along the line of Navy “float testing”.


23 posted on 08/08/2010 3:09:11 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember come November)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Excellent point! Plus the Rats will go ballistic.


24 posted on 08/08/2010 3:12:14 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Remember Stupak?

Never, ever trust a Democrat, including Hollen.

25 posted on 08/08/2010 3:13:04 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: dusttoyou

Watch Jerry Moran (R-KS). He just won a primary and will be the R nominee for Senator. He ran on standing up (finally) to the Democrats. I hope he surprises us and actually follows through.


26 posted on 08/08/2010 3:15:28 PM PDT by Kanzan
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To: Howie66

We can win back the House...and maybe a slim majority in Senate. However, there are no reps in the House who will draft impeachment articles & proceed to vote. Even if there were, there wouldn’t be enough votes. Even if there were, the Senate wouldn’t indict.

Sadly, we don’t have representation to do what needs to be done. It’s going to take direct action by the people....and they’re all still sitting around yelling “Impeach Obama.”


27 posted on 08/08/2010 3:28:22 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: jazusamo

Premier Hussein will declare the needed National Emergency shortly after his commission reports on the condition of the country’s finances on December 1st. Then the Dhimmies can do anything they want.


28 posted on 08/08/2010 4:01:35 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Now what kind of a geroo are you anyway?)
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To: dusttoyou

Well, the Swabbies have to be good for something besides shore leave, don’t they?


29 posted on 08/08/2010 4:02:15 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

“Sadly, we don’t have representation to do what needs to be done. It’s going to take direct action by the people....and they’re all still sitting around yelling “Impeach Obama.”

You nailed it. It’s up to US to put the fear of God into these people. We need to let them know beyond a doubt that we are serious.

“When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson said that.


30 posted on 08/08/2010 4:06:12 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: jazusamo

How many house seats need to be won to have a veto proof house?


31 posted on 08/08/2010 4:15:24 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

Too many, that would be a total of 288 seats but if you’re speaking about this privileged resolution I don’t believe the One can veto it, I may be wrong.


32 posted on 08/08/2010 4:23:15 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Right now I would not be shocked to see a swing of about 140 seats.

But if given to reality, I say 70 to 80 are more like it.


33 posted on 08/08/2010 4:43:36 PM PDT by crz
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To: jazusamo
“This whole effort to whip up hysteria as if there's some secret plan to do stuff in the lame-duck session is just nonsense. This is a scare tactic at its very worst, they are trying to spread the notion that there's a plan to do major legislation in a lame duck session – there isn’t. There just isn't," Van Hollen said on a conference call with reporters.

Then why did Harry Reid suggest you would? It's not a scare tactic when someone with power and inside knowledge claims that's what he's going to do.

34 posted on 08/08/2010 4:45:16 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: crz

I believe 70 to 80 are possible. I know it’ll be more than what Pelosi and the Rats are saying.


35 posted on 08/08/2010 4:54:34 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: OrangeHoof

Correct, Van Hollen lies.


36 posted on 08/08/2010 4:56:05 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Republican Study Committee (RSC) Chairman Rep. Tom Price (Ga.) introduced the privileged resolution last Thursday in response to reports that Democratic leaders told their base that they could move big-ticket legislation after the November elections and before the new Congress convenes in January. Price explained that his resolution says that a lame-duck session should not occur unless there were to be a national emergency.

37 posted on 08/08/2010 5:25:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: jazusamo

With 41 votes in the Senate, can’t the republicans essentially shut the place down anyway?


38 posted on 08/08/2010 5:44:45 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Man50D
I've thought about that too. Not sure what the quorum rules are, and I remember a state legislature (Cal, iirc) tried it and were remanded and hauled back to session.

Whatever, if this tactic could stop the Dems, then do it.

On the other hand, I'm betting the Dems have a new perspective on life in Congress come Nov. 3. Especially those that have any plans for a future in politics.

39 posted on 08/08/2010 5:55:21 PM PDT by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: KoRn

Yes, and hopefully that’s exactly what they’ll do if the Rats try it.


40 posted on 08/08/2010 5:57:39 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: crz

I believe 291 house votes is the number you’re looking for.
2/3rds. 67% needed to override a Prez veto.... of 435. Notice I did not say 291 Republicans.


41 posted on 08/08/2010 6:02:09 PM PDT by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: EDINVA

So, you say you’re supporting Mike Castle and Charlie Crist???


42 posted on 08/08/2010 6:48:34 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Michelle Obama: the woman who ended "Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.")
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To: jazusamo; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

How can you tell when Van Hollen is lying?

His lips are moving.

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


43 posted on 08/08/2010 6:49:18 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Michelle Obama: the woman who ended "Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.")
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To: saganite

Zero chance of passing....but will put every Democrat on record....more good ammo for Nov.


44 posted on 08/08/2010 6:52:16 PM PDT by sand lake bar
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To: anniegetyourgun
However, there are no reps in the House who will draft impeachment articles & proceed to vote.

Michele Bachmann.

45 posted on 08/08/2010 6:54:47 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: Howie66

Sailors rule. Good friend was a Machist Mate on some LST and explained to me about Float Testing.


46 posted on 08/08/2010 7:19:38 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember come November)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“So, you say you’re supporting Mike Castle and Charlie Crist???”

I am not supporting either. I live in VA where we don’t have a Senate race this year. Such time and funds as I have will be spent on VA-11.

RE Crist, there is a new conservative candidate being touted on FR who will siphon off Rubio votes. He will have NO effect on Crist.

RE Castle, I would hope that O’Donnell would beat him in a primary, and go on to win both the special and general. You can bet if she doesn’t win the primary, a certain number of her followers will stay home, so the D could easily be elected. So what you say? It’s a blue state anyway.

What I think most conservatives miss about tolerating a “RINO” in a blue state is that those RINO’s empower the true conservatives in the Senate. If the R’s end up with 51 Senate seats, they take over the agenda and all committees. That strengthens Sessions, DeMint, et al. If it takes a few RINOs to get there, to have the control, I’d take it. Damned right.

Why do you think Rahm Emmanuel forced ‘conservative’ Dems on locals around the country in ‘06? For CONTROL. If you don’t get it, sorry. But it’s all about control.

Or we can sit back sucking our thumbs, bitching and moaning among ourselves about how the D’s are taking this country down, blah blah blah.


47 posted on 08/08/2010 7:20:31 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: dusttoyou

“Sailors rule. Good friend was a Machist Mate on some LST and explained to me about Float Testing.”

Actually, Marines Rule.

Swabbies drool.

:)

Ooorah!


48 posted on 08/08/2010 8:03:57 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: jazusamo
I don't care who is in power. Lame duck sessions should not happen unless there is a need for something important like a declaration of war.
49 posted on 08/08/2010 9:32:32 PM PDT by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: zeugma

BUMP!


50 posted on 08/08/2010 9:34:49 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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