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Gates to Cut Major Military Command in Virginia, Officials Say
AP VIA FOX ^ | 08/09/10 | AP via FOX

Posted on 08/09/2010 9:36:32 AM PDT by Doogle

WASHINGTON -- Officials briefed on the decision say Defense Secretary Robert Gates plans to eliminate a major military command in Norfolk, Va., and try to cut the Pentagon's use of outside contractors by 10 percent next year.

The plan was to be announced at a Pentagon press conference on Monday. It is part of a broader effort to trim $100 billion from the military's mammoth budget in the next five years, as the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan begin to wind down and Congress turns its attention more to domestic priorities.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bhodod; bhosecdef; bobgates; defensespending; fifth100days; nationalsecurity; norfolk; odumbo; sixth100days; usnavy
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....ODUMBO at his worst
1 posted on 08/09/2010 9:36:34 AM PDT by Doogle
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To: Doogle

USFLTFORCOM? We don’t need no steenkin’ ‘lantic fleet.


2 posted on 08/09/2010 9:39:18 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Obama suffers from decision-deficit disorder." Oliver North 6/25/10)
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To: Doogle

Yeah, God forbit that we have any agency that encourages inter-service cooperation!


3 posted on 08/09/2010 9:39:27 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: Doogle

Joint Forces Command has always struggled to justify its existence. Most of its functions can be transferred to Northern Command without skipping a beat.


4 posted on 08/09/2010 9:40:30 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Redleg Duke

note:...IT’S Gates fault


5 posted on 08/09/2010 9:40:30 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

The only gubmint spending that this bunch of bozos can cut is in the military! Bunch of dumbells!


6 posted on 08/09/2010 9:41:48 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (I will not be silenced.)
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To: Doogle

Joint Forces Command is where Odierno is headed in September. Wonder what is in his future?


7 posted on 08/09/2010 9:42:13 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

not no more


8 posted on 08/09/2010 9:43:22 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

The Kenyan Clown is determined to destroy our military.


9 posted on 08/09/2010 9:45:38 AM PDT by snowsislander (In this election year, please ask your candidates if they support repeal of the 1968 GCA.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Who needs military spending when the enemy is American citizenry? All he needs is taxation and the police.


10 posted on 08/09/2010 9:45:43 AM PDT by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: centurion316

Agreed - JiffyCom will barely be missed.

Colonel, USAFR


11 posted on 08/09/2010 9:47:40 AM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Doogle

Many, many contractors jumping over to work for the Government now. It’s been going on for months.


12 posted on 08/09/2010 9:48:06 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Doogle

Your Hope has been redistributed. Here’s your Change.

All this to advance his Socialism agenda.


13 posted on 08/09/2010 9:58:30 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Doogle

>Congress turns its attention more to domestic priorities.

Just what we don’t need...more of our taxes spent on lazy welfare scumbags and leftist programs
to shore up their base of worthless human flesh. The best thing congress
could do would be to stay on vacation.


14 posted on 08/09/2010 10:00:34 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Doogle

I’m a contractor here. Thanks 0bama. More reason to hate your effing Kenyan muslim guts.


15 posted on 08/09/2010 10:01:57 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Doogle

AND WHERE IN THE **** ARE SENS. WEBB AND WARNER??????????????????????????????????????????????


16 posted on 08/09/2010 10:03:20 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

“The only gubmint spending that this bunch of bozos can cut is in the military! Bunch of dumbells!”

As one who spent many years in the military I can assure you that the military is just as adept at overspending as any other government entity. In fact, I suspect that finding an entity that does not overspend would match the hunt for the needle in the haystack.


17 posted on 08/09/2010 10:06:10 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: ScottinVA

....a trillion dollars goes along way.....


18 posted on 08/09/2010 10:07:58 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

There you go Virginia, thanks for your dumb vote for Obama in 08. Here’s the payback for daring to vote in a staunch republican Gov, Barry didnt like that snub.


19 posted on 08/09/2010 10:09:07 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: ScottinVA

Not to mention Rep. Nye. He is so gone in November, even if I have to hold my nose and vote for Rigell.


20 posted on 08/09/2010 10:09:13 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Anyone can fib. It takes an intellectual to tell a really big lie.)
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To: Doogle

Another Zero adminisration “economic” housing boost for the VA tidewater area.


21 posted on 08/09/2010 10:11:56 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: SlowBoat407

Whoops, that’s Randy Forbes’ district. Guess he’s paying the price for being an “R”.


22 posted on 08/09/2010 10:13:28 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Anyone can fib. It takes an intellectual to tell a really big lie.)
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To: jagusafr
I have no doubt sir that many a military program could use some good “weight loss”, but isn't odd that when the Lib's cut the budget its ALWAYS the Military, and ALWAYS threaten that “oh no! Have to Cut EMT,Teachers, Fireman, Police,....”
23 posted on 08/09/2010 10:13:34 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Lord help our Armed Service members that they not become pawns in Hussein's quest to destroy America)
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To: ScottinVA

REvenge? Virginia has turned against Obama and our new Republican governor has made significant cuts to bALANCE THE budget. We don’t need any federal bailouts.

At least we didn’t before this.


24 posted on 08/09/2010 10:15:01 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: Rebelbase
at the same time..here's another headline... 85 Days to Decide: Democrats Roll Dice With Education Aid Vote 26 BILLION

guess we'll have to wait to see what's in this bill too and how much actually goes to teachers

25 posted on 08/09/2010 10:16:15 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SlowBoat407

Nope, its not Forbes district. Its a dem - Glenn Nye’s district.


26 posted on 08/09/2010 10:19:19 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: Doogle

Even a broken clock can get it right twice a day...lots of bureaucratic fat can be cut from our military (and cutting might even improve readiness).

And do we really need $400,000 shoulder-launched missiles when our enemies use $28 RPG’s?


27 posted on 08/09/2010 10:19:59 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Doogle

As Zell Miller said... “SPITBALLS”!

LLS


28 posted on 08/09/2010 10:22:24 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: SlowBoat407

And a Conservative R at that.


29 posted on 08/09/2010 10:22:30 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Southack

.....guess it depends on which one your holding


30 posted on 08/09/2010 10:23:06 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: ScottinVA

I have worked there. Jiffycom is a base always looking for or faking a mission.


31 posted on 08/09/2010 10:23:58 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: jagusafr

Yeah, I was worried it was something important for a second.

They changed LANTCOM to JFCOM when they thought there wasn’t a threat to CONUS after the Cold War, and then, when they realized there was after 9/11, did they change JFCOM back to something useful? Of course not - lets add another command with a redundant mission instead!

I always figured the only reason JFCOM was still there was just for aspiring one-stars to have an extra place to punch their joint duty tickets.


32 posted on 08/09/2010 10:24:22 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: ScottinVA
webb is writing another novel featuring incestuous pornography.

LLS

33 posted on 08/09/2010 10:24:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: soycd

How true. Defense is constitutional mandated. It should be the last thing cut.


34 posted on 08/09/2010 10:27:30 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: bmwcyle

Wasn’t JFCOM one of Rumsfeld’s wet dreams, along with ‘transformation’?


35 posted on 08/09/2010 10:29:03 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: tgusa

No they adopted the name tranformation command to fly under the radar. The command picked the name not Rumsfeld. Remsfeld was pleased at their selection.


36 posted on 08/09/2010 10:34:07 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: Southack

What is the $400k missile?


37 posted on 08/09/2010 10:41:33 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("There are consequences for being wrong" - Burt Rutan)
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To: snowsislander

and further punish a red state (loss of jobs and economic impact of base)


38 posted on 08/09/2010 10:42:37 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: billhilly

I’m certainly not going to jump on them when they’re doing something right. I just wish they’d apply this same logic to the rest of the government. There are entire cabinet-level departments that are just as redundant as JiffyCOM.


39 posted on 08/09/2010 10:42:37 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: soycd
Congress turns its attention more to domestic priorities.

As in increased domestic spending. I don't know is this closing is warranted or not but I do know that any savings will be matched by spending increases on programs for the Democrats client groups 10 to 1 for each saved dollar.

40 posted on 08/09/2010 10:46:06 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: KC_Lion

Agree with that point. Defense is looking like the only adult in the room willing to make some cutbacks. But not HHS, Interiror, Education, etc.,etc., etc. THey more than make up for any cuts elsewhere.


41 posted on 08/09/2010 10:46:26 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!)
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> It is part of a broader effort to trim $100 billion from the military's mammoth budget
>

Gee, I thought Fox (I know the article is originally from AP), would not allow editorials to be passed off as news.

After all, the Military only accounts for only 1/4 of the entire national budget, while Social Security and Medicare make up 1/2 !!

42 posted on 08/09/2010 10:48:52 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic one Post at a Time)
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To: Doogle
U.S. Joint Forces Command (JFCOM) is nothing but a holdover from the old Atlantic Command (LANTCOM). Atlantic Command existed when NATO was organized into two theaters: Europe and Atlantic. Atlantic Command's commander was also NATO's Supreme Allied Commander, Atlantic (SACLANT).

When the Cold War ended, NATO restructured, and the SACLANT position went away. The problem was under Goldwater-Nichols, every single U.S. military unit in the world had to belong to some Unified Command. CONUS forces belonged to LANTCOM, regardless of if they were ultimately meant to fall under SACLANT in war.

LANTCOM was first reacronymed "USACOM", to reflect its lack of an Atlantic mission, and later was redesignated JFCOM, and CONUS forces remained assigned to JFCOM. JFCOM's missions were joint training, providing forces to other commands, and "Transformation". NATO created a "Supreme Allied Commander, Transformation" (SACT). Last year, SACT was taken over by Europe, leaving the JFCOM commander with no NATO role.

JFCOM's missions conflict with Goldwater-Nichols guidance which created the Vice Chairman of the JCS to handle joint coordination and transformation.

After 9/11, U.S. Northern Command was created. NORTHCOM was only assigned the CONUS military forces previously assigned to NORAD and a few other forces. NORTHCOM and JFCOM actually share their Navy component, U.S. Fleet Forces Command, the old Atlantic Fleet.

There was little reason for LANTCOM to continue under another name after the Cold War ended, and there was no reason for JFCOM to exist after NORTHCOM was created.

This action is long overdue. Reassign Army Forces Command, Air Force Air Combat Command, and Marine Corps Forces Command to NORTHCOM, assign the joint development role to JCS/J7, and the transformation role to Vice Chairman of the JCS, and jettison JFCOM for good.

43 posted on 08/09/2010 10:51:20 AM PDT by magellan
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"Wasn’t JFCOM one of Rumsfeld’s wet dreams, along with ‘transformation’?"

JiffyCom predates Bush/Rumsfeld. It became JFCOM in 1999, and LANTCOM/USACOM's mission change occurred in 1993.

44 posted on 08/09/2010 10:54:11 AM PDT by magellan
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To: magellan

Thanks. Old age, don’cha know ....


45 posted on 08/09/2010 10:55:39 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Doogle

but when Obama goes on a revenge mission on Virginia, you can guarantee, it will be more than just this that gets cut.


46 posted on 08/09/2010 11:03:13 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: Doogle

ping


47 posted on 08/09/2010 11:10:21 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Doogle

JFCOM would be my guess.


48 posted on 08/09/2010 11:22:42 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: Doogle

Just watched Gates’ briefing. He’s directing the first two sets of manpower cuts in Pentagon senior staffs and some procedural “fixes.” The issue about USJFCOM is RECOMMENDED. Getting rid of USJFCOM isn’t quite so simple. Congress has to make that determination and it must go through the BRAC process. It’ll take several years to come to fruition, IF it even does.


49 posted on 08/09/2010 12:08:46 PM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: magellan

good thing they put out a press release, or no one would have noticed...

Transfer FORSCOM, USFF, and ACC back to the Army, Navy, and Air force and let the services get back to training, manning, and equipping.

By the way, the whole briefing and script is at the Defense Business Board homepage.


50 posted on 08/09/2010 12:10:18 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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