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AP Exclusive: CIA whisked detainees from Gitmo
AP ^ | 8-9-10 | AP

Posted on 08/10/2010 8:15:58 AM PDT by Mikey_1962

Four of the nation's most highly valued terrorist prisoners were secretly moved to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2003, years earlier than has been disclosed, then were whisked back into overseas prisons before the Supreme Court could give them access to lawyers, The Associated Press has learned.

The transfer allowed the U.S. to interrogate the detainees in CIA "black sites" for two more years without allowing them to speak with attorneys or human rights observers or challenge their detention in U.S. courts. Had they remained at the Guantanamo Bay prison for just three more months, they would have been afforded those rights.

"This was all just a shell game to hide detainees from the courts," said Jonathan Hafetz, a Seton Hall University law professor who has represented several detainees.

Removing them from Guantanamo Bay underscores how worried President George W. Bush's administration was that the Supreme Court might lift the veil of secrecy on the detention program. It also shows how insistent the Bush administration was that terrorists must be held outside the U.S. court system.

Years later, the program's legacy continues to complicate President Barack Obama's efforts to prosecute the terrorists behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The arrival and speedy departure from Guantanamo were pieced together by the AP using flight records and interviews with current and former U.S. officials and others familiar with the CIA's detention program. All spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the program.

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Before dawn on Sept. 24, 2003, a white, unmarked Boeing 737 landed at Guantanamo Bay. At least four al-Qaida operatives, some of the CIA's biggest captures to date, were aboard: Abu Zubaydah, Abd al-Nashiri, Ramzi Binalshibh and Mustafa al-Hawsawi.

Binalshibh and al-Hawsawi helped plan the 9/11 attacks. Al-Nashiri was the mastermind of the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 20030924; abdalnashiri; abuzubaydah; alhawsawi; alnashiri; bhocia; bhogwot; binalshibh; detainees; gitmo; hawsawi; mustafaalhawsawi; nashiri; ramzibinalshibh; usscole; zubaydah
Dance of the Black Site Detainees!

Put a bag on their head and send them to the next site.

Sounds good to me.

1 posted on 08/10/2010 8:15:59 AM PDT by Mikey_1962
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To: Mikey_1962

Ditto

Yeah Yeah like we care.


2 posted on 08/10/2010 8:17:09 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Mikey_1962

President Bush....Thank you for all you did to protect us from these monsters.


3 posted on 08/10/2010 8:18:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Mikey_1962

I’m sure the CIA had nothing to do with their not being there anymore. They probably escaped and drowned out in the sea.


4 posted on 08/10/2010 8:19:02 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Sacajaweau

I agree with you completely
“President Bush....Thank you for all you did to protect us from these monsters.”

Is this article supposed to gin up the leftists to vote against any Repub in Nov??


5 posted on 08/10/2010 8:20:58 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Mikey_1962

At least we keep them alive. ROP prisoners do not live long.


6 posted on 08/10/2010 8:21:07 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Marty62

Isn’t it racist to call it a “black” site?


7 posted on 08/10/2010 8:21:51 AM PDT by Perdogg (Nancy Pelosi did more damage to America on 03/21 than Al Qaeda did on 09/11)
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To: Mikey_1962

Sounds to me like some of Eric Holder’s law firms clients have been put out of reach. A good thing, too.


8 posted on 08/10/2010 8:22:18 AM PDT by Mobties (I yield back the balance of my time)
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To: Mikey_1962

Woe to those that call good evil and evil good. AP writes this likes its a bad thing.


9 posted on 08/10/2010 8:23:15 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Mikey_1962

I say, drift down to about 10,000 feet to drop them off.


10 posted on 08/10/2010 8:23:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Latest most accurate Az Poll to date, of 14 likely voters: McCain 137%, Hayworth -37% (+/- 92%))
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To: Mikey_1962

May they never see the light of day............


11 posted on 08/10/2010 8:23:28 AM PDT by jongaltsr (It)
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To: RWGinger

I guess the decision is to continue to Bash Bush until the 2010 elections....at least...


12 posted on 08/10/2010 8:23:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Perdogg

OHm yeah I’m sure that will be play if this story continues to go nowhere.


13 posted on 08/10/2010 8:23:57 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Mikey_1962

Works for me.


14 posted on 08/10/2010 8:27:18 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Mega Dittos To That!And,(by the way)I began to”MISS”him on election night,2008!!


15 posted on 08/10/2010 8:28:58 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: Mikey_1962

Yep, this speaks poorly for the US Supreme Court as far as I can tell. The Bush administration was holding these guys not on US territory, but felt they had to move them because they feared Sumpreme Court over reach.

That is bad enough. What is worse is the administration was right and the Court over reached into an area Congress ruled off limits to them per Article 3 Section II, “... the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.”


16 posted on 08/10/2010 8:32:13 AM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: Sacajaweau
I guess the decision is to continue to Bash Bush until the 2010 elections....at least...

This should get millions of voters on our side. That is assuming there are any red blooded Americans left in the hard core left.

17 posted on 08/10/2010 8:53:18 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Sacajaweau

Bash Bush???? I thought he was still President. Bush is the first 3 term unelected President ever. Gore actually won the first election. Kerry (who is Vietnam vetren) should have won the second. Obuma is just a figure head, retaing all of Bush’s policies and blaming Bush when those policies fail due to incompetent management. Obuma is there just to distribute stimulus funds to labor unions and black radicals and to oversee the complete distruction of the United States.


18 posted on 08/10/2010 9:13:09 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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To: Mikey_1962

Strawberry fields forever.


19 posted on 08/10/2010 10:00:21 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Mikey_1962

1) This is NOT an AP exclusive.

2) This story has long been circulating.


20 posted on 08/10/2010 10:42:55 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Mikey_1962
Put a bag on their head and send them to the next site. Sounds good to me.Until it happens to Americans and has been endorsed by prior American usage....Everything done to your detainees is now fair game for your troops and US captuives abroad.
21 posted on 08/10/2010 10:54:06 AM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Mikey_1962

...and probably no coincidence that there was NO other terrorist attack on US soil during the Bush Presidency.


22 posted on 08/10/2010 11:24:34 AM PDT by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: Androcles
"Everything done to your detainees is now fair game for your troops and US captuives abroad."

That argument has never held water (no pun intended) because our enemy in this war doesn't follow any kind of "rules", and doesn't base their behavior on whether or not we do. Do you really think that they waste one second thinking, "Gee, I was going to cut this American soldier's head off, but I think I'll let him live because I suddenly feel all warm and fuzzy inside now that I've heard how well the Americans are treating our brothers in Guantanamo."? Do you seriously believe that they make that calculation?

Of course they don't. They do what they do, just like animals, and couldn't care less how we treat them when captured. In fact, when we tie ourselves into knots in misguided attempts to prove how "sensitive" we are, it merely emboldens them by demonstrating how weak we are.

The ONLY way to actually win this war is to completely obliterate the enemy's WILL TO FIGHT. Pinprick drone strikes and apologies for what little offensive measures we do undertake only make the situation worse. We have to so demoralize them (ala Japan or Germany in WWII) that they will no longer even entertain the idea of attacking us.

What we should have done after 9/11 was, as soon as practically feasible, launch massive strikes against any countries known to actively support Islamic terrorism. Following that, we should have warned countries that more passively allowed terrorists to thrive in their countries that if the U.S. were ever attacked again, we would annhilate them, too. I wouldn't get into this game of trying to figure out who was involved in 9/11 (was Iraq, wasn't Iraq, etc.). I would just put the entire Muslim world on notice that if it ever happened again, they would ALL pay the most severe price. Let them sort out who is who, that's their problem.

23 posted on 08/10/2010 12:26:13 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Mikey_1962

“This was all just a shell game to hide detainees from the courts,”

How sad we have to do this. The judiciary is out of control and only seems interested in protecting monster- not our citizens...


24 posted on 08/10/2010 12:48:44 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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