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Students at Lincoln Memorial Told to Stop Singing National Anthem
Fox News ^ | 8/9/10 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 08/10/2010 8:26:54 AM PDT by nmh

A group of high school students attending a conservative leadership conference in Washington, D.C. said they were ordered by a security guard to stop singing the national anthem during a June 25 visit to the Lincoln Memorial.

“They told them to stop singing,” said Evan Gassman, a spokesman for the Young America’s Foundation. “I was taken aback. You wouldn’t expect a display of national patriotism to be censored."

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“If their idea of civil disobedience is singing the national anthem, then so be it,” Gassman said. “Let them disobey.”

The crime was "singing it loudly".

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: anthem; banned; dnc4alqaeda; liberalfascism; national; nationalanthem; nationalparks; nointegrity; nopatriotism; obama4alqaeda; students; yaf
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U.S. Park Police confirmed that the students were in violation of federal law and their impromptu performance constituted a demonstration in an area that must remain “completely content neutral.”
1 posted on 08/10/2010 8:26:59 AM PDT by nmh
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To: nmh

The time is getting close.


2 posted on 08/10/2010 8:30:12 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: nmh
a demonstration in an area that must remain “completely content neutral.”

That's insane. The Lincoln Memorial *has* content, unless they've removed Lincoln's speeches from the wall since the last time I was there.

3 posted on 08/10/2010 8:30:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Large realities dwarf and overshadow the tiny human figures reacting to them.")
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To: nmh

So did the kids tell the guards to go to hell, and if not, why not??!!


4 posted on 08/10/2010 8:31:02 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: nmh

I would think that in American, the national anthem would be considered “content neutral”.


5 posted on 08/10/2010 8:31:37 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: nmh

The “content” is why the memorial is there in the first place. Good grief, Charlie Brown.


6 posted on 08/10/2010 8:32:11 AM PDT by Williford
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To: Oldpuppymax

They did, they started singing again, joined by other tourists. Like the bar scene in Casablanca.


7 posted on 08/10/2010 8:32:43 AM PDT by battlecry
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
"The time is getting close"

You've got that right and the sooner the better. Time to take out the trash...

8 posted on 08/10/2010 8:33:48 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: nmh
Sounds like a good act of civil disobedience that should be committed during the up coming 8/28 rally!
9 posted on 08/10/2010 8:33:48 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: nmh

The US Park Police are in violation of American citizens rights,Someone needs fired.


10 posted on 08/10/2010 8:34:18 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: nmh

Our national anthem is considered “non-neutral content”?

They’re not looking for completely content neutral; they want devoid of content.


11 posted on 08/10/2010 8:35:37 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: nmh

“Any song by whitey crackers must go.
And Lincoln was white, too. That monument must go."

12 posted on 08/10/2010 8:36:20 AM PDT by Diogenesis ('Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God' - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: nmh

This truly pi$$es me off......


13 posted on 08/10/2010 8:37:30 AM PDT by BamaDi (I'm praying for a bloodbath in '10)
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To: nmh

“completely content neutral” my ass! Throw some f’n muslim prayer rugs out for the SOB’s to pray on, ok. Bring a boom box out jammin some 50 cent rap BS, fine. Burn the flag, pictures of Palin or Bush, okie doke. God forbid you sing America’s National Anthem at a National Memorial in America!

I’m sick and tired of this sh&%! November isn’t going to help one iota with Kagan and Sontameyer (and Lord knows who else) on the SC! Along with all of the lame duck crap these pissants in DC will pass between November and January!


14 posted on 08/10/2010 8:37:47 AM PDT by albie
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To: nmh

When will flying the Stars and Stripes be deemed divisive?


15 posted on 08/10/2010 8:37:59 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

<The time is getting close.

Amen, my FRiend.


16 posted on 08/10/2010 8:39:03 AM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: nmh
“It’s not the content of their activity – that being the national anthem – it’s the location,” he said. “A couple steps and it would have been no problem whatsoever.”

Instead of doing as they were instructed, Gassman said the students resumed the song – an impromptu form of civil disobedience.

Why does it look like this guy's searching from some reason to justify telling the kids to stop?

17 posted on 08/10/2010 8:40:21 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: Steely Tom

It already is....


18 posted on 08/10/2010 8:42:12 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

“The time is getting close.”....

I agree. The whack left will pay.


19 posted on 08/10/2010 8:47:48 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: BamaDi; nmh

Remember post-9/11 when the lefties were saying that the American flag was “divisive”?


20 posted on 08/10/2010 8:49:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: nmh
U.S. Park Police Gestapo needs to mind their own business.
21 posted on 08/10/2010 8:52:47 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: Steely Tom

Oh, it already HAS been - post 9/11.

And, remember the kids that got in trouble for wearing American flag shirts on Stinko Day Mayo(naise)?


22 posted on 08/10/2010 8:54:08 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: nmh
The crime was "singing it loudly".

Yeah. Rowdiness will get you kicked out of a Carolina Panther's game too, don'cha no?

23 posted on 08/10/2010 8:56:09 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: nmh
I know at lot of folks here are not crazy about Glenn Beck, but I will be at the Lincoln Memorial on 8/28 and I can guarentee you that I will not be content neutral!!!!!
24 posted on 08/10/2010 8:57:32 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: Steely Tom

Well, singing the national anthem is already considered civil disobedience...


25 posted on 08/10/2010 8:57:57 AM PDT by battlecry
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To: nmh
Being a staunch conservative I was at first appalled by this scene, but upon reflection and believing in equal application of the law I now see it's merits. The Lincoln Memorial is truly a very quiet place even with large crowds. I would not want protesters to be allowed in there or any one making a lot of noise. Out front on the steps is fine. The headline should have read students told to quit making noise in the Lincoln Memorial. The content of their noise is immaterial.
26 posted on 08/10/2010 9:01:43 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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To: nmh
Schlosser explained that performances, regardless of content, are banned to “maintain a contemplative and reverent area for the Lincoln Memorial, for the other guests and visitors.”

I agree with this 100%. This is a MEMORIAL folks. A place for solemn reflection. When I visited the Memorial a few years back I was appalled at the behavior of some of the visitors - loud like it was an amusement park.

Doesn't matter what they were singing. This is not the place.

27 posted on 08/10/2010 9:01:57 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: BigBobber

Had I been there, I´d have sung it.


28 posted on 08/10/2010 9:06:33 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: nmh
U.S. Park Police confirmed that the students were in violation of federal law and their impromptu performance constituted a demonstration in an area that must remain “completely content neutral.”

It is interesting that THIS federal "law" is upheld but the one about securing our borders is not

29 posted on 08/10/2010 9:07:06 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Obama celebrators singing “Shout” at the Lincoln Memorial:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kcivey/3209372840/

Obama celebrators celebrating the Obamessiah’s election at the Lincoln Memorial:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=56913094200


30 posted on 08/10/2010 9:16:41 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: nmh

Singing the National Anthem is now considered a “demonstration”? Infuriating. But have faith that, one way or the other, the Marxist Usurper and his band of angry commies will be driven from Washington and beyond.

The key is to use this fury to get yourself and at least one other person to the polls and vote for conservative candidates this November. And then do the same thing November 2012 for the presidential election. I have no doubt the Marxists will be giving you plenty to feed your anger even after this November’s elections.


31 posted on 08/10/2010 9:19:14 AM PDT by dools007
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To: nmh
MLK, we need your spirit back for some "content neutral" civil disobediance!


32 posted on 08/10/2010 9:19:21 AM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: bmwcyle
Washington is infested with power-hungry illiterate street thugs masquerading as police officers and park rangers stuffed into stretch pants with guns on their hips.
33 posted on 08/10/2010 9:22:26 AM PDT by Never on my watch (The Obama Administration - an outrage a day)
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To: RnMomof7

“It is interesting that THIS federal “law” is upheld but the one about securing our borders is not.”

What’s really insane is the GOVERNMENT is suing Americans for wanting EXISTING FEDERAL LAWS that punish ILLEGALS with deportation. We are supposed to SELECTIVELY IGNORE IMMIGRATION LAWS on the federal books. That is what is going on in Arizonia. The immigration law set forth by Arixnia is in perfect harmony with FEDERAL LAW. There is NO CONFLICT with federal law.


34 posted on 08/10/2010 9:22:47 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: BigBobber
Bullcrap. The reasoning given by the Park Police was:

"The area they were standing in and singing is an area that is restricted for this type of activity,” said Sgt. David Schlosser. “The United States Park Police is absolutely content-neutral when it comes to any sort of demonstrations in these areas.”

They consider singing in a group a demonstration.

Now ask yourself, what is a demonstration? It's for advocacy for or against a position or behavior.

Singing patriotic songs is a demonstration? For or against what? Answer that question and you see what this rule is all about.

The rule is a null, a cipher. It is there so that it can be used to allow or disallow at the subjective will of the enforcer.

35 posted on 08/10/2010 9:25:31 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: dirtymac
You can talk all you want about equal application of the law buy please wake me when the law is applied equally. You won't convince me that a group of young Communists or Black Panthers would have been told to stop singing their anthem.
36 posted on 08/10/2010 9:27:26 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: FourPeas
Why does it look like this guy's searching from some reason to justify telling the kids to stop?

Maybe they were just so terribly bad that he had to come up with some reason-- any reason-- to end the suffering? :-)

37 posted on 08/10/2010 9:39:08 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: dirtymac

“...I now see it’s merits.”

Merits my asset. They’re not in a library, or China, for that matter. They’re in America. We have the right to openly express our patriotism in a public place such as this.

I would rather protesters have the right to freely express their privilege to protest peacefully in such places then to silence citizens.

This is BS. Royal BS, and the fact that you would embrace such a violation of our rights reveals your lack of understanding of our liberties in this country.


38 posted on 08/10/2010 9:56:57 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: albie
I’m sick and tired of this sh&%! November isn’t going to help one iota with Kagan and Sontameyer (and Lord knows who else) on the SC! Along with all of the lame duck crap these pissants in DC will pass between November and January!

Right On! These sham elections only quiets the sheeple. This corrupt government is so entrenched that only everyone in it must go. Being that won't happen ergo we are screwed.

39 posted on 08/10/2010 9:59:02 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: This Just In

I love this quote:

“We need to make certain that all other visitors that don’t want to be a part of that or just choose to be tourists are able to do so in the same light that PROBABLY President Lincoln wanted – which is completely content neutral,” he said.

Probably......heh. This guy thinks he can read Lincoln’s mind.


40 posted on 08/10/2010 10:07:04 AM PDT by EggsAckley ( There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply!)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; Russ; BigBobber

“I agree with this 100%. This is a MEMORIAL folks.”

Big friggin deal. The way in which individuals choose to conduct themselves at memorial sites are their business, provided they are not desecrating or vandalizing property,and/or threatening/harming individuals.

I guess behavioral modification, if you will, is acceptable in this instance. Arbitrary censoring is fine in this case? I don’t need some Park Police telling me how to behave in public if I’m not braking any laws. If you find public displays of patriotism in such places annoying, or disturbing to your peace, I suggest you visit memorials late at night. No one is denying you of that, but don’t deny us the right to live freely, even at memorial sites.


41 posted on 08/10/2010 10:07:41 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: EggsAckley

The G Man is full of hot air. He wouldn’t say boo to a Muslim.


42 posted on 08/10/2010 10:10:14 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: nmh
The crime was "singing it loudly".

Loudly, or off-key?

43 posted on 08/10/2010 10:12:54 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: nina0113

Loudly.

That is subjective.

I guarantee you this, a CONSERVATIVE group, which this group was, was NOT singing it disrespectfully.


44 posted on 08/10/2010 10:15:47 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nina0113
“A group of high school students attending a conservative leadership conference in Washington, D.C. said they were ordered by a security guard to stop singing the national anthem during a June 25 visit to the Lincoln Memorial.”

A CONSERVATIVE group that goes to the trouble of going there is not going to be singing it, spontaneously no less, obnoxiously or off key on purpose. These is NO REASON for them to be SILENCED and told it must be “CONTENT NEUTRAL”. Geesh! It's our NATONAL ANTHEM!

45 posted on 08/10/2010 10:19:27 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

UNMITIGATED TREASONOUS IDIOCY.

Lord, God, please deal with all the traitors who contributed to that situation in a way that will drive your priorities, honesty and integrity of values and actions pointedly home to their bone marrow level awareness.


46 posted on 08/10/2010 10:20:58 AM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: battlecry

GREAT! THEN WHAT HAPPENED?


47 posted on 08/10/2010 10:21:47 AM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: BamaDi

If I allowed my emotions to respond much at all, I’d be quickly exasperatedly furious.

GRRRRR


48 posted on 08/10/2010 10:23:05 AM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: albie

INDEED.


49 posted on 08/10/2010 10:23:36 AM PDT by Quix (C THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Steely Tom

Already decided in some schools students can’t wear flags on their shirts. Don’t know if any of those rules were thrown out in court.


50 posted on 08/10/2010 10:27:32 AM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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