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Posted on 08/10/2010 9:29:59 PM PDT by TaraP
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Prayer doesn’t heal any malady in a particularly predictable fashion.
Prayer doesn’t solve financial problems, or relationship problems or even spiritual problems in any statistically significant way.
Prayer doesn’t make sense. It’s foolishness.
1 Cor 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
Sometimes it is the only hope we have left.
“Sometimes it is the only hope we have left.”
This is not such a case. This is a medical challenge. You’ve given up all other hope and default to prayer, and seem to advocate others do the same.
“Prayer doesnt make sense. Its foolishness.”
In this case, I agree. It’s foolishness to pray in lieu of taking proper medical precautions.
I don’t think it would hurt to do both - but medicine has done a pretty good job of relieving much pain and suffering on balance.
I wasn’t addressing the superbug(s) with the “no hope” remark. I happen to believe new antibiotics or other more sophisticated systems of treatment can and should be developed.
I’m not a research scientist, obviously. I am not advocating people reject medical science.
What I am advocating is that people not reject the power of God and the angels to protect us from all manner of things, far beyond pathogens ( or in the case of prions, non-living protein templates), relying strictly on the power and knowledge of man as the savior of humankind.
Yeah, I called my relatives who were nurses when my kids were sick.
Medicine is not a religion, however. It may save your mortal life, but it cannot save your soul.
“Medicine is not a religion, however. It may save your mortal life, but it cannot save your soul.”
True enough. But the thread was about medicine.
You are right. Wrong of me to try to steer it away. Doomsday stuff triggers me to act that way.
“Doomsday stuff triggers me to act that way.”
It’s not doomsday. It’s not a cakewalk, but it’s not doomsday. Medicine isn’t everything, but it’s far from nothing.
We, on the other hand, had invested over 8 months in the GAPS diet, which you can look up on the web, and we did not want to jeopardize the months of probiotic supplementation at the therapeutic level by taking an antibiotic. So we ramped up our vitamin C uptake, as well as keeping our probiotic intake at maximum levels. What we found was that the body threw off the disease by itself, despite the stress we were under during our move.
The lesson we learned was that having “normal” populations of good microbes in your system is the best way to keep opportunistic organisms in check, even really nasty ones. This is done by eating fermented foods, taking probiotic supplements of key organisms, and eating foods in their natural state (no processed foods).
This may be the answer to many prayers as the modern pharmaceutical paradigm starts running out of tricks.
I believe that verses 10-16 in Psalm 90 can be interpreted as the trillions of fungi and bacteria which inhabit and keep our bodies alive, and the knowledge of how to use them for our benefit.
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Qui habitat. The just is secure under the protection of God.
 The praise of a canticle for David. He that dwelleth in the aid of the most High, shall abide under the protection of the God of Jacob.  He shall say to the Lord: Thou art my protector, and my refuge: my God, in him will I trust.  For he hath delivered me from the snare of the hunters: and from the sharp word.  He will overshadow thee with his shoulders: and under his wings thou shalt trust.  His truth shall compass thee with a shield: thou shalt not be afraid of the terror of the night.
 Of the arrow that flieth in the day, of the business that walketh about in the dark: of invasion, or of the noonday devil.  A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand: but it shall not come nigh thee.  But thou shalt consider with thy eyes: and shalt see the reward of the wicked.  Because thou, O Lord, art my hope: thou hast made the most High thy refuge.  There shall no evil come to thee: nor shall the scourge come near thy dwelling.
 For he hath given his angels charge over thee; to keep thee in all thy ways.  In their hands they shall bear thee up: lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.  Thou shalt walk upon the asp and the basilisk: and thou shalt trample under foot the lion and the dragon.  Because he hoped in me I will deliver him: I will protect him because he hath known my name.  He shall cry to me, and I will hear him: I am with him in tribulation, I will deliver him, and I will glorify him.
 I will fill him with length of days; and I will shew him my salvation.
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