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Children 'at risk from pop charts porn': Top producer Mike Stock blasts his own industry
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Posted on 08/11/2010 4:14:01 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

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To: JenB

That approach works for good families. Unfortunately our society has been under attack for decades and many parents don’t even have a moral compass.


41 posted on 08/11/2010 6:54:05 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

People have been having this discussion since Elvis swiveled his hips. Talking doesn’t seem to be getting it done.


42 posted on 08/11/2010 6:59:10 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: dfwgator

Yesterday foxnews had 3 victoria’s secret models on during the morning news. Don’t think we would have seen that when we were growing up.


43 posted on 08/11/2010 7:00:16 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Wolfie

“Talking doesn’t seem to be getting it done.”

Ignoring hasn’t helped either. We’ve let the leftists dictate the agenda since the 60’s and thats why we are losing.


44 posted on 08/11/2010 7:02:12 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Wolfie
People have been having this discussion since Elvis swiveled his hips.

You're seriously not comparing Elvis to rappers talking about "Hos"?

45 posted on 08/11/2010 7:02:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: driftdiver

Kids whose parents don’t care enough to protect them from music videos will have problems anyway and legislating rules about what teenybopper singers can wear is not going to help them.


46 posted on 08/11/2010 7:23:14 AM PDT by JenB
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To: driftdiver
So how would we set and enforce these societal standards aside from speaking out, boycotts and the like? Would you support government involvement?
47 posted on 08/11/2010 7:23:29 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: dfwgator

driftdiver said we have to talk about it. I pointed out we’ve been talking about it since Elvis. Hasn’t done much good. Rappers and ho’s are irrelevant to that point.


48 posted on 08/11/2010 7:34:08 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: JenB

“When” did you grow up?

It makes a difference.

Factor in the exponential leap forward nowadays in the proliferation and extent of general coarseness and sexually explicit mainstreaming..it IS THAT hard.


49 posted on 08/11/2010 7:37:39 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

In the 90s - I was born in 83. So parenting today is more difficult but not as much more difficult as someone who grew up in the 60s. And I have a good example of parents who raised me away from the culture to follow.


50 posted on 08/11/2010 7:39:37 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Ken H

‘Would you support government involvement?”

A govt of the people, by the people and for the people. Good people need to get involved and quit being afraid of being heard.


51 posted on 08/11/2010 7:40:19 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: JenB

“Kids whose parents don’t care enough to protect them from music videos will have problems anyway and legislating rules about what teenybopper singers can wear is not going to help them.”

So you’re saying lets just give up and let the world be the worldly?


52 posted on 08/11/2010 7:41:14 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Wolfie; dfwgator

“driftdiver said we have to talk about it. I pointed out we’ve been talking about it since Elvis. Hasn’t done much good. Rappers and ho’s are irrelevant to that point.”

The point is we haven’t really been talking about it. Good people talk about it to good people. The instant good people step out into the world and say “thats not acceptable” the leftists go into attack mode and good people shut up.

Are we willing to fight for our freedom? Because that is really what we are fighting for. Moral decay plays into the hands of the leftists as they work to destroy our country.


53 posted on 08/11/2010 7:44:03 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: cycle of discernment

“it IS THAT hard.”

Yeah, I broke my wrist turning off the tv when my daughter was a toddler. /sarc
Oh, and that internet parental control program...yeah, I had to call them once because I forgot my password. Way hard.


54 posted on 08/11/2010 7:45:16 AM PDT by pops88 (geek chick over 40)
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To: driftdiver

Making laws is not the way to make the world not be worldly. Converting people to Christian living is the only way to actually change anything.


55 posted on 08/11/2010 7:49:09 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

“Making laws is not the way to make the world not be worldly. Converting people to Christian living is the only way to actually change anything.”

Sure, you cannot legislate morality. that doesn’t mean you turn a blind eye to the leftist agenda.


56 posted on 08/11/2010 7:51:01 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: pops88

‘Yeah, I broke my wrist turning off the tv when my daughter was a toddler. /sarc”

There is a world out there that continues to degrade while you stick your head in the sand. Its not all about you or your toddler.


57 posted on 08/11/2010 7:53:09 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
ME: Would you support government involvement?

driftdiver: A govt of the people, by the people and for the people. Good people need to get involved and quit being afraid of being heard.

IOW, your answer is "Yes". What level of government... federal?

58 posted on 08/11/2010 8:00:38 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: driftdiver
Its a little harder when you have to deal in the real world with real people.

Yes, it is.

That's one of the challenges we must deal with as part of living in a (mostly) free country.

It would be much easier if the government would just ban everything offensive from the airwaves, cable, and CD's, wouldn't it?

59 posted on 08/11/2010 8:03:27 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: driftdiver

“There is a world out there that continues to degrade while you stick your head in the sand. Its not all about you or your toddler.”

I’m not sticking my head in the sand. I know it’s there. Yes, there is a “world” out there. I’m a Christian, thus mandated to be in it, not of it. As I’ve repeatedly tried to point out, we don’t have to be a victim of it. We, especially as parents, can say “no.” When I read a “boo hoo” article about a parent having no control over the tv remote, well, I can’t help but call that playing the victim of how the tv remote keeps one from being a good parent. The left is very good at abdicating personal responsibility. “My child turned out bad because of that evil tv and internet....” Please...if parents took responsibility this wouldn’t be an issue, but we live in an evil world with a majority that don’t take responsibity...and we’re supposed to be surprised? Just another opportunity to sound a cry of alarm for government control when parents should have been in control, like my first post about not turning into the drive thru (sp? since I don’t use them) . If we don’t support them with our money, they die. Legislation will not make people righteous and as the bible says, evil will wax worse and worse. We either take personal responsibility or not, but don’t think there will be a government or societal fix because there won’t.


60 posted on 08/11/2010 8:19:05 AM PDT by pops88 (geek chick over 40)
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