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To: Scythian

Goodle Operation Downfall, the umbrealla plan for Operations Coronet and Olympic. These spell out in detail the U.S. Order of Battle and what the human cost would’ve been had we opted for the invasion of the Home Islands rather than use the atom bomb. HST did the right thing.


14 posted on 08/11/2010 7:34:27 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Ax

Make that “Google.”


15 posted on 08/11/2010 7:35:59 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Ax

I never said we did the wrong thing, I said it bothers me, that’s it, what’s the big deal, can I not have those feelings about dropping bombs on families and children, and if I didn’t have those feelings would I even be human? Sheeze you guys are touchy, you’re not telling me anything I didn’t already know about the war, I even said that in my first reply to this thread, yet here come all the historians to convince me my feelings are wrong.


18 posted on 08/11/2010 7:37:49 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Ax
Operation Downfall was not an option, it was a go. My father was scheduled to participate in the first wave of Olympic, which was the invasion of Kyushu. Nobody outside of the project itself knew about the development of the atomic bomb, so the absolute defeat of Japan was being arranged in the classic sense.

We should be careful when we view the culture of Imperial Japan from the perspective of Western Liberalism. Every person; young, old, women, disabled, had military duties. The society was completely militarized. The invasion would have encountered fanatical resistance everywhere, from 'civilians' armed with bows and arrows, explosives, zip guns, and what have you. As was demonstrated during the campaign, the closer we got to the home islands, the fiercer and more horrible the fighting became. If Okinawa/Iwo Jima are used as an indicator, then we could expect that nothing short of complete annihilation of everything- people, property, the land itself- would suffice. This would probably mean the end of Japan as a nation and as a people. And at the cost of at least hundreds of thousands of American casualties, likely including my dad. The Fat Man called it off at the last minute, and I thank God for that.

41 posted on 08/11/2010 8:15:02 AM PDT by Seven plus One
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