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Offer Rejected to Move Mosque Away From Ground Zero to 'State Property'
FOX News ^ | 8/11/2010 | FOX News

Posted on 08/12/2010 7:12:27 AM PDT by rochester_veteran

The developers of the so-called Ground Zero mosque rejected New York Gov. David Paterson’s offer to provide state property if the project is moved farther away from where the twin towers once stood.

“I think they would like to stay where they are, and I certainly respect that and I certainly respect them,” Paterson said. “Having said that, how much more foresighted would it have been if the imam who is the developer of the project had been willing to hear what we are actually talking about?”

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KEYWORDS: crushislam; groundzero; groundzeromosque; islam; islamicfascism; islamofascism; jihad; mosque; stealthjihad
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In the spirit of understanding and outreach, Rauf could have taken Paterson up on his offer and the whole controversy would have been diffused. Rauf would have gained my respect for taking that route.

Instead, Rauf rejected it outright, without even discussing this with Paterson, making even Paterson wonder, “how much more foresighted would it have been if the imam who is the developer of the project had been willing to hear what we are actually talking about?”

At least things are out in the open now, unless you’re a Ground Zero Mosque supporter and apologist. As many of us had a hunch, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is intent upon building this Mosque as a symbol, a monument to radical Islam’s greatest victory over Western Civilization. Rauf could have diffused the situation, but instead he’s inflaming it!

1 posted on 08/12/2010 7:12:29 AM PDT by rochester_veteran
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To: rochester_veteran

It doesn’t make sense
To do your big Touchdown Dance
In the parking lot.


2 posted on 08/12/2010 7:14:25 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (You can force me to recycle, but I will NOT sing the song!)
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To: rochester_veteran

Thats because these “moderate muslims” intent to celebrate their success on 9/11.


3 posted on 08/12/2010 7:15:19 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Haiku Guy

It’s a scalp on a lodge pole; a victory shout by the Muslims.
They’re not interested in halfway measures.


4 posted on 08/12/2010 7:16:48 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: rochester_veteran

Of course they rejected it.

The muslims would rather cross the bridge to Manhattan into the busiest business office real estate section in the world, through New York traffic, past many existing mosques in residential areas, to dance on our graves.


5 posted on 08/12/2010 7:17:36 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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To: DesertRhino

Roger that! The unwhitting Patterson just outed the agenda for all to see.


6 posted on 08/12/2010 7:18:02 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - Hayworth for US Senate - Scott for FL Gov.)
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To: rochester_veteran

Doing things “in the name of God” are taken to be sacred rights within religions ...

“Ah, what fools these mortals be.”


7 posted on 08/12/2010 7:18:34 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: Mr. K
“would rather cross the bridge to Manhattan into the busiest business office real estate section in the world, through New York traffic, past many existing mosques in residential areas, to dance on our graves.”

You about summed it up.

8 posted on 08/12/2010 7:20:23 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: mazda77

Yes, he did. Even leaving aside the propriety of a state giving land to a specific religious group for the construction of a religious building, the fact that he got an outright refusal shows you exactly what the Islamic agenda is in building on this site.


9 posted on 08/12/2010 7:23:12 AM PDT by livius
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To: rochester_veteran

Perhaps in a gesture of inclusion, tolerance, and embracing diversity we could fly an unmanned aerial vehicle loaded with jet fuel and explosives into the mosque once construction is complete.


10 posted on 08/12/2010 7:23:26 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: rochester_veteran

Food for thought ....
A church is a tax exempt entity.

That’s why churches are typically NOT in commercially zoned areas, the city is unable to collect sales or property tax on a church; so if the church is allowed to build in a highly desired commercial district, tax revenue is adversely affected.

So, we not only have leadership that granted ‘special’ rights to Muslims to commit this insult; they have intentionally foregone collecting tax revenues for the building that the Mosque will reside in.

This is why you don’t see Catholic Churches, Jewish or Mormon Temples, Baptist churches or any other denomination’s church on Rodeo Drive, Wall Street or other ‘high demand’ commecial areas. And yes, the area around the Twin Towers site in New York is considered a highly desired property site for a commecial company.


11 posted on 08/12/2010 7:23:46 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: DesertRhino
Thats because these “moderate muslims” intent to celebrate their success on 9/11.

Exactly; this is a holy site of conquest, not just any piece of real estate. The mosque facility will be huge and able to house the many thousands of muzzie pilgrims who will come to NY to pay tribute to their "great victory."

12 posted on 08/12/2010 7:23:52 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: rochester_veteran

PJ Crowley is talking NOW about how IMPORTANT the IMAM is to State Dept. The enemy within.


13 posted on 08/12/2010 7:24:29 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Haiku Guy

“I think they would like to stay where they are, and I certainly respect that and I certainly respect them,” Paterson said......

I hope this idiot realizes he’s one of many “Doormat Americans” for terrorism in our country.....They won’t respect his sorry ass when they blow everything up!


14 posted on 08/12/2010 7:26:13 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: rochester_veteran
How COULD Paterson GIVE government land?

What about the seperation of church and state?

Or does that not apply to mosque and state?

A state $65 BILLION in debt is going to GIVE $millions away to a religion, and yet tax others of another religion to foot the bill?

How would government giving land to a religious group not be seen as establishing a religion?

15 posted on 08/12/2010 7:28:14 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: rochester_veteran

16 posted on 08/12/2010 7:28:20 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: rochester_veteran

If spirit and outreach were part of his agenda, of course he would move.

But they are not.

This is an in-your-face challenge. Now it’s your/our move.


17 posted on 08/12/2010 7:28:21 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!)
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To: VRWCmember
Perhaps in a gesture of inclusion, tolerance, and embracing diversity we could fly an unmanned aerial vehicle loaded with jet fuel and explosives into the mosque once construction is complete.

In Mecca :)

18 posted on 08/12/2010 7:29:59 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: rochester_veteran

Support Greg Gutfeld’s moslem-friendly gay bar that he wants to put next to the GZ mosque.


19 posted on 08/12/2010 7:30:23 AM PDT by Lou Budvis (Refudiate 0bama '12)
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To: rochester_veteran

Will all politicians with any balls please come to New York and defend our country?


20 posted on 08/12/2010 7:30:45 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: rochester_veteran

Speaks volumes for Rauf’s motivations.....


21 posted on 08/12/2010 7:31:16 AM PDT by cranked
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To: rochester_veteran; All
Just a thought.

Now that Paterson has opened Pandoras box of the governments willingness to give government land for a mosque, this sets a precident to the muzzies.

In a muzzies twisted logic, if the government is willing to give them government land for building a mosque, than the government land they should be given is the government land the Twin Towers stood on.

22 posted on 08/12/2010 7:36:33 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: rochester_veteran
Is this offer by Patterson even legal?? Constitutional?

It was turned down, but can anyone imagine the uproar of state land was “given” to any other religion for a church or synagogue?

23 posted on 08/12/2010 7:37:51 AM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rochester_veteran; All; mountn man

And of course, once this comes out in the public, King Obama will decree it by Executive Order.


24 posted on 08/12/2010 7:38:40 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: rochester_veteran

Next step, governor calls out the New York militia to “fix” the problem...


25 posted on 08/12/2010 7:38:45 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: rochester_veteran

Would someone PLEASE bring out the bacon?


26 posted on 08/12/2010 7:38:48 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If you think health care is expensive now, wait till it's free.)
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To: rochester_veteran

Can’t say the Arabs/Islamics aren’t consistent.

They are principled. You can’t bribe them from their goals- dancing on our graves in this instance.

Just like when yesterday Lebanon said to refuse US aid and arms if they are not permitted to use such aid against Israel.


27 posted on 08/12/2010 7:39:47 AM PDT by HearMe
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To: gidget7

Who cares? The idea is to get the Muslims off Ground Zero and stop throwing their dispicable hateful Jihad in our faces.

Lace the land and building with lard; tell the Muzzies there was a pig farm on the property; give them a nice plot of land where they can be isolated from Christians who don’t care about PC - only protecting a hallowed spot in New York City.

But DON’T let the mosque be built.


28 posted on 08/12/2010 7:41:37 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If you think health care is expensive now, wait till it's free.)
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To: mountn man

islam is NOT a religion. It is a political entity with a “holy” book that instructs its adherents how to kill and conquer. Catholics, Baptist, Jews, Mathodists, Lutherans, and eve the Amish are true religious groups. They don’t go around killing to conquer.

That’s how Patterson could have given governmant land to the muzzies and not violate the the seperation of church and state deal.


29 posted on 08/12/2010 7:41:42 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (HEY, NAZI PELOUSY, ON NOVEMBER 2, WE WILL DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: All

How about moving it out of the USA.


30 posted on 08/12/2010 7:44:08 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: rochester_veteran

, and I certainly respect that and I certainly respect them”

...and I respect Sharia law, and I respect their right to attack again because we suck, and I respect the removal of all christians and jews by force if necessary. Shut up you little asshole!


31 posted on 08/12/2010 7:44:27 AM PDT by albie
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To: rochester_veteran

This could have been stopped as a national security issue, the whole thing would have had support of all Americans, and case closed.

Haven’t seen this asked, but I assume the call to prayer will be blared daily over Ground Zero?


32 posted on 08/12/2010 7:44:46 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated public is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: rochester_veteran

I say bring the troops home now. There’s no point for our troops to be fighting and dying for nothing in Afghanistan if the cowards who run New York City see fit to surrender.


33 posted on 08/12/2010 7:45:18 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: VRWCmember
I would say fly into Mecca during the pilgrimage.

Let see how they like it.

34 posted on 08/12/2010 7:46:11 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: NCC-1701

Maybe a land swap?


35 posted on 08/12/2010 7:46:22 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: ScottinVA
What is the purpose of building a temple in a place where there are no residents, other than as a symbol?

If someone had told me on Sept.12, 2001 that ten years hence, the World Trade Center site would still be a vacant lot, while just down the street a shining new Mosque stood as a symbol of Islamic triumph, I would have thought them mad.

36 posted on 08/12/2010 7:46:51 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Lou Budvis
Support Greg Gutfeld’s moslem-friendly gay bar that he wants to put next to the GZ mosque.

Yes .... and I think Thursday nights should be ladies' night .... slip into your favorite party burka and come on in and get stoned.

37 posted on 08/12/2010 7:46:59 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: AmericaUnite
Put the damn Mosque here!.....
38 posted on 08/12/2010 7:48:22 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: pnh102

“The developers of the so-called Ground Zero mosque rejected New York Gov. David Paterson’s offer to provide state property if the project is moved farther away from where the twin towers once stood. “

The minute they rejected that offer should have taken everything off the table.


39 posted on 08/12/2010 7:48:26 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Helter Skelter. The Revolution is Upon Us.)
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To: NCC-1701
Oh I agree that Islam IS NOT a religion but a political entity. But the libs always claim it as one, so for this arguement we use their stand against them.

The moment they relinquish the religion angle, we box them out.

But then of course we have no politicians with ANY BALLS.

40 posted on 08/12/2010 7:48:36 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Monkey Face

H311 NO!! Do not “give” them ANY land. And whoever approved this permit, or went along with this disgraceful mess after it was “approved” should be prosecuted for treason! Anyone and EVERYONE, including Bloomberg! Where is DHS?? The Pentagon? Have we no strong political voices left in this country?

Tolerance is going to be the death of us all, literally.


41 posted on 08/12/2010 7:50:50 AM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rochester_veteran
If there is nothing with letting Muslim extremist build a mosque at Ground Zero, why is Patterson trying to broker a deal?

If Patterson believes that is inappropriate, why isn't he confronting Michael Bloomberg?

42 posted on 08/12/2010 7:51:54 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: rochester_veteran

The muzzies aren’t going to willingly give up what is their equivalent to the planting of the flag at Iwo Jima.

If allowed to happen, this mosque will be their tribute to the 19 islamists who murdered 3000 infidels.


43 posted on 08/12/2010 7:52:11 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their rear end at God while praying.)
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To: Hodar

Can folk there sue? And keep this evil stinker riding on the courts for years?!


44 posted on 08/12/2010 7:53:44 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: layman
Yes .... and I think Thursday nights should be ladies' night .... slip into your favorite party burka and come on in and get stoned.

Gutfeld said the bar would be muslim-friendly. That means no alcohol will be served. You will, however, be able to chose among 72 virgin drinks. LOL.

45 posted on 08/12/2010 7:55:23 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

They are building a new target for airplanes near ground zero?


46 posted on 08/12/2010 7:55:26 AM PDT by ully2 (ully)
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To: rochester_veteran

Rev Wright shares the same view that America is to blame for 911. Barry and Michelle share the same feelings, as they attended that Church for more than 20 years


47 posted on 08/12/2010 7:57:33 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge ( PALIN / HOLTZ 2012 If you vote Democrat you support infanticide)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I think the five families of New York need to make them offer that they can’t refuse.


48 posted on 08/12/2010 7:59:26 AM PDT by mmanager (I'm not racist, I don't like the white half of him either.)
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To: rochester_veteran
Why not let them build it? All such centres become Muslim arsenals, and after its basement is filled with ordnanace, we can just blow it up! That seems like a proper course to follow after what they did to the twin towers funded by the Saudis.
49 posted on 08/12/2010 7:59:52 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Hodar
That’s why churches are typically NOT in commercially zoned areas

I guess Eminent Domain can only be used against Joe Homeowner. It cannot be used against Mohammed Northtower.

50 posted on 08/12/2010 8:00:56 AM PDT by kidd
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