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The Myth of Technological Progress
Taki's Magazine ^ | August 30, 2009 | Scott Locklin

Posted on 08/12/2010 3:05:50 PM PDT by B-Chan

Many of you will still be alive in 50 years. It’s interesting to think about what life will be like in 50 years technologically and otherwise. Predictions are risky, especially when they’re about the future, but I believe we can make some pretty good guesses. To predict a predictable future, you need to look at the past. What was technological life like 50 years ago? 50 years ago was 1959. The world of 1959 is pretty much the same world we live in today technologically speaking. This is a vaguely horrifying fact which is little appreciated. In 1959, we had computers, international telephony, advanced programming languages like Lisp, which remains the most advanced programming language, routine commercial jet flight, atomic power, internal combustion engines about the same as modern ones, supersonic fighter planes, television and the transistor.

I’d go so far as to say that the main technological innovation since 1959 has been space flight—a technology we’ve mostly abandoned, and it’s daughter technology—microelectronics. Computer networks came a year or two after 1959 and didn’t change very much, other than how we waste time in the office, and whom advertisers pay.

Other than that, man’s power over nature remains much the same. Most of the “advances” we have had since then are refinements and democratization of technologies. Nowadays, even the little people have access to computers and jet flight, and 1800s-style technology like telegraphy can be used to download pornography into their homes. Certainly more people are involved in “technological” jobs, and certainly computers have increased our abilities to process information, but ultimately very little has changed.

Now, if we’re sitting in unfashionable 1959 and doing this same comparison, things are a good deal different.

The rate of change between 1959 and 1909 is nothing short of spectacular. In that 50 years, humanity invented jet aircraft, supersonic flight, fuel-injected internal-combustion engines, the atomic bomb, the hydrogen bomb, space flight, gas warfare, nuclear power, the tank, antibiotics, the polio vaccine, radio; and these are just a few items off the top of my head. You might try to assert that this was a particularly good era for technological progress, but the era between 1859 and 1909 was a similar explosion in creativity and progress, as was the 50 years before that, at the dawn of the Industrial revolution. You can read all about it in Charles Murray’s Human Accomplishment: The Pursuit of Excellence in the Arts and Sciences, 800 B.C. to 1950, though I warn you, if you’re in a creative or technical profession Murray’s widely ignored book is even more depressing than this essay. Murray didn’t restrict his attentions to technological progress: across the entire panoply of human endeavor (art, science, literature, philosophy, Mathematics) the indications are grim. You may disagree with the statistical technique he used (I don’t), but you can’t escape the conclusion—things are slowing down.

Certainly, people can be forgiven for thinking we live in a time of great progress, since semiconductor lithography has improved over the years, giving us faster and more portable computers. But can we really do anything with computers now that we couldn’t have done 30 or even 50 years ago? I don’t think life is much different because of ubiquitous computers. Possibly more efficient and convenient, but not radically different, much like things got after the invention of computers in the ‘40s. Now we just waste time in the office in different ways.

Remember the kind of “artificial intelligence” which was supposed to give us artificial brains we could talk to by now? The only parts of which work look suspiciously like signal processing ideas from, well, the 1950s. The rest of it appears to have degenerated into a sort of secular religion for nerds.

Looking forward, I can’t think of a single technology in the works today which will revolutionize life in the 21st century...


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KEYWORDS: future; past; technology; utopia
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To: discostu

I agree with your assessment. His computer examples are the same as saying there is no advance involved in a fire hardened stick vs a machine gun bullet, both being weapons. The article is remarkably stupid.


21 posted on 08/12/2010 3:57:31 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: B-Chan
Many of you will still be alive in 50 years.

I'll be 115.

22 posted on 08/12/2010 3:58:39 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Nobody reads tag lines.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I actually followed the link, he’s got a hilarious couple of paragraphs about how the SR-71 is faster than the F-22 therefore planes haven’t advanced. He completely ignores how the SR-71 as a spy plane was designed specifically to be too fast to shoot down and has no weapons taking up space and weight, and the F-22 being a fighter plane is designed to... well shoot stuff down and so has weapons and other things that would slow it down.

And he even dismisses medical advances, carefully ignoring MRIs and a bunch of other stuff.

Maybe it’s supposed to be a comedy piece.


23 posted on 08/12/2010 4:01:04 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: B-Chan
Looking forward, I can’t think of a single technology in the works today which will revolutionize life in the 21st century...

Silly. Genetic engineering could have enormous consequences. It's not a gadget you can hold in your hand or ride downtown, but it's going to be a big change for some people.

Similarly, if we get transportation that doesn't depend on petroleum, it won't be as dramatic as seeing that first car or airplane coming at you, but it would mean a major change in the way the world works.

And if the "people" of 2100 aren't really human beings, but some new synthesis of man and machine, that would also be a major change.

BTW, John Lukacs used to play this game, but he'd go back even further. If you saw the coming of the railroad, the telephone, the automobile, and the airplane, he'd say, you saw the world change more than anyone who came along afterward would.

That's true. The shift from an agricultural to an industrial world was greater than anything we've seen since.

It doesn't mean that technological progress has stopped, though.

24 posted on 08/12/2010 4:02:15 PM PDT by x
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To: B-Chan

Nanotech and memsistors are two biggies that might make a huge leap. The LHC could also find some stuff for anti-gravity by 50 years as well. Hard to say at this point.

It kinda depends on what you want as well. Probably no moon bases thanks to hussein. Possibly a space elevator if nanotech works out though.


25 posted on 08/12/2010 4:03:01 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Graybeard58
Same here, & will prolly be driving a gasoline powered car getting 35 MPG.

Secret, it's big oil that has determined MPG for the past 50 years as well.

It's a factor of fractions, so much kerosene/jetfuel/fuel oil v. the lighter stuff , gasoline , etc..

It all has to go somewhere, you can't compress a liquid, so the math has to be worked out in advance.

26 posted on 08/12/2010 4:03:38 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: B-Chan
Is he nuts? Look what size the cell phones were back then:


27 posted on 08/12/2010 4:06:58 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: discostu

More likely it is a cranky old man than a comic.


28 posted on 08/12/2010 4:09:15 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: B-Chan
Universal compulsory "education."

Add that to "affirmative action," and the prohibition against legitimate criticism of a large part of our population, and you get lowered standards for nearly every human endeavor.

I heard many people complain about affirmative acction because they thought it was unfair. I always knew that a more insidious side effect would be a gradual erosion of meritocracy as the dominant ethos of our culture.

29 posted on 08/12/2010 4:11:24 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'd rather take my chances with someone misusing freedom than someone misusing power.)
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To: Graybeard58
I'll be 115.

I'll be 81. Wanna hook up?

30 posted on 08/12/2010 4:15:58 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: discostu
Agreed. A few things more to consider that only the cynical would ignore or be blinded.

Cardiac Stents
Human Genome
LCD displays
LED Bulbs
Pharmaceuticals
Gore Tex
Joint Replacements
Horizontal drilling


Technological development is discovery.
31 posted on 08/12/2010 4:16:03 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: B-Chan

Technology is all, or almost all, about making more out of less, as the planet becomes increasingly overpopulated.


32 posted on 08/12/2010 4:19:58 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Right Wing Assault

I’d go crazy without my Tivo, lol.. I don’t know how I made it without DVR’s until 1999.


33 posted on 08/12/2010 4:20:53 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: truthguy
In the early 50s in the city, my dad had to shovel coal into the coal furnace. The ice man came every other day. Mom and I had to walk to the store (no car) to buy meat fresh every day since the icebox couldn't keep it fresh very long. Couldn't keep ice cream. If my dad needed a piece of lumber, we took two different streetcars (no car, as I said) to the lumber yard and brought it back on the streetcars. In the winter time the streetcars were heated by little coal stoves. The scrap collector (paper, rags! Our guy never said "paper eggs") drove a wagon pulled by a horse. Same with the produce guy ("apples, oranges, peaches, plums, and nectarines --- and fresh - straw - berries!" he would yell). There were no interstate highways. The bums were actually gentlemen, though, and my mom would give them handouts. And no, we never locked our doors. We didn't have any keys for the house.

When we sold the house in 1961, crime in the neighborhood was rampant, so we had to get keys made. Our next door neighbors, who were a very nice young black couple, had their house cleaned out by burglars while they slept. Two houses down a guy was sent to prison for murder. I was scared to death to leave the house. In 1961 I didn't see the quality of life you mention.

I will take my quality of life today over that of the '50s any day.

34 posted on 08/12/2010 4:21:44 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: discostu

If he’s serious, then he can’t be argued with. He’ll say scramjets or space planes aren’t really knew since we’ve had paper gliders for 500 years or something.

All that stuff he listed being so great in from 09 to 59 was built on earlier stuff. Electricity led to the big leap for most of it. If he thinks history has many leaps as big as electricity and knowing the physical laws of the atom then, he’s going to be disappointed.


35 posted on 08/12/2010 4:25:23 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: John Galt's cousin

Mimi. I couldn't wait for each issue to show up!

36 posted on 08/12/2010 4:26:50 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: B-Chan

Drivel to get some words on paper and get paid.

My I Phone has more power and network ability than anything that was even conceived in 1959 and it is obsolete


37 posted on 08/12/2010 4:27:09 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: B-Chan
I remember 1960 vividly, and seriously disagree that things have not changed.

Medical science has changed tremendously. My father nearly died in 1961 of a coronary, and the treatment then was to keep him in a hospital bed for 6 weeks! He was only in his mid-40s. He was told to avoid any exertion afterward.

Science has moved on tremendously. In 1960, Venus was still thought to be cool enough to be habitable, and the only images of Mars were taken through the fog of the Earth's atmosphere.

Communication has changed. Long distance calls inside the country were an event in 1960. In the 1990s, one of my coworkers dialed direct her parents in India after an earthquake to check on them.

And there was NO clumping cat litter in 1960!!!
38 posted on 08/12/2010 4:27:37 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: CanaGuy
In 1943 Thomas Watson, the chairman of IBM, is reputed to have predicted, "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." Boy, he sure blew that one, and he was the world's expert on the topic.

Actually, he was right, given the nature of computers at the time. Computers are ubiquitous now because they are relatively cheap and small. At the time this guy was talking, computers filled a room and cost a fortune. Would you have a computer in your house if it filled a room and cost $1 million? Or at your small business? If someone had asked him, "Hey, what if we made the computer 10,000 times more powerful, as small as a briefcase, and only at the cost of the average person's weekly salary, how much demand would there be?" he'd probably have answered "Everyone would have one then."
39 posted on 08/12/2010 4:30:14 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: PA Engineer

Did he mention GPS, satellite weather pictures, minimally invasive surgery. The latter turned things like gall bladder surgery from a major event to a one day deal.


40 posted on 08/12/2010 4:31:02 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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