i saw that too... they also classify WP as a chemical weapon
Posted on 08/12/2010 6:41:07 PM PDT by edpc
Report: German newspaper says photos of dead Kurds confirm use.
BERLIN – German politicians called on Thursday for an international investigation into the reported use of chemical weapons by the Turkish military. The weapons were used against members of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), according to the online edition of the German weekly magazine Der Spiegel.
“Turkey needs to urgently look into these accusations,” said Ruprecht Polenz, chairman of the Foreign Affairs committee in the Bundestag and a member of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union party.
Polenz recommended an international investigation to examine the deaths of eight Kurdish activists from the PKK. Claudia Roth, co-chair of the German Green party, echoed Polenz’s criticisms, seconding his call for an investigation.
MP Andrej Hunko urged the German Foreign Ministry to file a complaint against Turkey with the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons in The Hague.
A forensic report from Hamburg University Hospital confirmed that the eight Kurds had been murdered by “the use of chemical substances.”
(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...
Turkey has gone crazy.
Genocide is not a new concept for Turks.
“Genocide is not a new concept for Turks.”
No kidding.
They want to bring back the Ottoman Empire. Europe be afraid.
YUP! Here we go again.
Those poor Kurds—they can’t catch a break.
The Turks are looking for trouble.
Wasn’t there recently a big push to make Turkey part of NATO??? I think we now see why there was opposition...
They’ve been a member for decades.
Chemical weapons are infamous for this.
The message should have been: You f with us, and we will track you, personally, down and kill you. And your country will simply cease to exist.
It would have been especially appropriate in the case of Iraq, as Turkey wouldn't allow us to stage from their territory, and there is nothing Turkey fears more than an independent Kurdistan on their border.
It would have been a suitable reward for their "help"...
The radical Muslims are in power. That old time religion of bloody hunger follows every time. That is what all the hate Israel was about. The Turks are going to cause Europe a major problem if they keep it up. They know all of Europe’s defenses.
Whatever the most gruesome way to kill, they will choose it.
Ultimately, they are ALL terrorists at heart.
It wasn’t NATO, it was a member of the EU. Turkey has been a member of NATO for a long time.
ragtag bunch of Kurds ?...
I am assuming you were being sarcastic. The article doesn’t say what method was used in the “forensic” study by the university. Seems like this could be easily determined, so I remain skeptical of the initial report until confirmed....despite Turkey’s history with acts of genocide.
We don’t need them in Nato anymore, they served their purpose with the jupiter missiles but this nonsense isn’t needed anymore.
NO cheers, unfortunately.
It's certainly headed that direction. There is a significant portion of the population that while they may call themselves "Muslim", they're really not any religion at all. And, those people just want to live life in the most "western" style possible. Unfortunately, the Islamacists are really starting to win. What happened to Lebanon in the 70s, could easily happen to Turkey soon, if it isn't happening already.
I was at Incirlik Air Base in the late 80s, and then again back in 2008 and some opportunity to travel around a little. The difference was remarkable - for the worse.
Agree.
We don’t belong in that part of the world trying to “build nations” for barbarians.
Yes, they’d know....since they were the ones who first employed it for modern warfare during WWI.
Troubling. The PKK is a pretty nasty terrorist organization in its own right, but then again Turkey is transforming itself into an islamist state, supporting Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah. Echoing Kissinger, “couldn’t they both lose?”
i saw that too... they also classify WP as a chemical weapon
Friend and her husband retired there. Beautiful area but I worry for them.
We probably wouldn't be at all concerned with the ME if it weren't for the discovery of oil. It's like some cosmic joke such large reserves are there.
And it's not funny.
And we are leaving Iraq, and turning a blind eye to the events in Turkey.
UH HUH.
Don’t even think about sending our troops back in when all hell breaks loose.
Really? I was not aware chemical weapons tear people to pieces. That’s rather strange.
Chemical weapons can cause skin boils/damage but they do not ‘tear’ peaple to pieces. Depending on the toxin used, there could potentially be little or no external damage to the bodies. The nerve gasses just shut down muscle function.
Yeah, if CW can do that, I want some for when the SHTF.
“Genocide is not a new concept for Turks”
Troublemaking is not a new concept for Kurds.
WordPress?!
Ruh-roh...
white phosphors
Yeah...are we just talking white phosphorous munitions? It’s a chemical sure...but come on, that’s a stretch, all munitions have chemicals that burn, some faster than others.
I agree, they have proven themselves to be unworthy when they failed to help with the Iraq invasion. There were many of our military who did not come home thanks to them.
The ethnic difference between Turks and Kurds & the totalitarianism trend by the Turks to impose upon the Kurds. The provocation of Israeli security sources and Edrogan’s constant looking-for to severe Israel, proves them to be leaning more towards Islamofascism and away from Ataturk.
true but the RAT left calls WP a chemical weapon and tried to crucify Israel for using it...
Germans never used battlefield chem weapons. They tossed their Tabun into the Oder in 1945 before the Red Army got hold of it.
NO Cheers, unfortunately.
IIRC, leftists also consider tear gas a “chemical weapon.”
They may discover that Turkey really is a gas!
The last country that used WMD’s against Kurds was Iraq. May Turkey suffer the same fate.
This story just don't smell rite,,,
From what I could find the Turks could overrun the Kurds
in a few days,,,MAX,,,
“Army
Main article: Turkish Army
Turkey signed a memorandum of understanding to order an initial batch of 116+8 F-35 Lightning IIThe Turkish Army is one of the largest standing armies in the world and the second largest army of NATO.[6][7] The Turkish Army can deploy a sizable Army Corps to conduct joint operations at short notice.[33] The Army can conduct air assault operations with a lift capability of up to six battalions at a time, day and night.[33]
The modern Turkish Army has its foundations in remnants of the Ottoman forces inherited after the fall of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I, though official sources - the Commandership of Land Forces and others - date its founding to Mete Khan in 209 BC.[34] The rise of Turkish nationalism in Anatolia, under the leadership of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, led eventually to victory in the Turkish War of Independence, and subsequently to the founding of the Republic of Turkey, when these remnant forces were reorganized into the modern Turkish Army.[35]
The Turkish Army has around 402,000 active personnel.”
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Why would the Turks bother with gas when they could just
take out the Kurds in one sweep,,,?...
A bombardment containing both chem and explosives would. Chem weapons to make defenders try to leave their positions to get away, then hit with explosives when they're out in the open running from the chem attack.
(If that makes a difference)
More info here - http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/pkk.htm
I’ve read the background on the PPK. Not defending them, at all. Mainly, I am more concerned with the potential use of chemical weapons by the Turks, who have become more bellicose and unpredictable recently under the current leadership.
Chemical weapons are very dangerous. Agree on concerns over their use. Just clarifying that the target is a dangerous group, not Sunday school teachers :-)
Yeah, and 99.9% of those "Europeans" are...surprise!...Turks!
Not really, most of them are native Europeans, seriously. I first came across the pheomenon in Glasgow, Scotland.Its the allure of cheap real estate, beaches, and low cost living.
Hmmm...now I’m surprised. I know a lot of Turks move back to Turkey for retirement or when they’ve looted enough in Europe.
Tried to find some hard numbers for Europeans moving to Turkey, but no luck. Got a link? 2 million seems a lot.
This is BS.
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