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Supremes looking at eligibility, again
WND -- WorldNetDaily ^ | August 12, 2010 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 08/12/2010 9:13:40 PM PDT by stevenl77

A California attorney who more than a year ago told WND she would go back again and again to the U.S. Supreme Court until she gets an answer on Barack Obama's eligibility to be president has returned to the court's calendar.

According to a posting on the U.S. Supreme Court website, Orly Taitz' latest request for an opinion from the high court has been "referred to the Court."

Taitz, who has spearheaded several of the prominent legal cases challenging Obama's eligibility based on claims he does not qualify for the office under the U.S. Constitution, has brought before the court a penalty of $20,000 imposed by a federal judge on her for her actions in one of her cases.

Taitz confirmed to WND she has had donations of about $2,000 to defray the penalty, but she is arguing she should not be subjected to the penalty....

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; orlytaitz; taitz
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1 posted on 08/12/2010 9:13:43 PM PDT by stevenl77
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To: stevenl77

I thought the smart money was saying the real reason is that Obama is trying to cover up the fact that “pop”-of-the-brown-trouser-stain, Frank Marshall Davis, his teenage mentor, was actually his bio-daddy.


2 posted on 08/12/2010 9:15:49 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

Yeah, that IS the smart money. They are chasing a ghost with this Oily Tait nonsense. I wouldn’t give her the time, let alone cash.


3 posted on 08/12/2010 9:28:03 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: stevenl77
“she has had donations of about $2,000”

As PT Barnum would say there is a sucker born every minute...

4 posted on 08/12/2010 9:29:52 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: stevenl77

There are persistent doers, and there are judgmental do-nothing critics. I’d say its pretty clear who’s been posting on this thread tonight.


5 posted on 08/12/2010 9:40:45 PM PDT by JoSixChip (You think your having a bad day?.....Just remember, somewhere out there is a Mr. Pelosi!)
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To: JoSixChip
There are persistent doers

Setting your hair on fire and running around in circles chasing your tail is "persistent doing"...but is it accomplishing anything?

6 posted on 08/12/2010 9:47:14 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: sinanju
I thought the smart money was saying the real reason is that Obama is trying to cover up the fact that “pop”-of-the-brown-trouser-stain, Frank Marshall Davis, his teenage mentor, was actually his bio-daddy.

If this was indeed the case, then it would prove that 0bama is a natural born citizen.

I am wondering, if after the way 0bama dissed the Supreme Court during the State of the Union address, that more of these eligibility cases will creep up the docket, just as a form of "payback."

7 posted on 08/12/2010 9:47:29 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: RachelFaith
Seems that the birthers can declare victory, what with, as the article states at its end, 60% of Americans believing Obama was not born in the United States. The court case on discovery of Obamas documentation is politically, if not legally, moot.

And Orly helped the 60% happen. Good for her. Now maybe she can make it 70% who have that same belief.

8 posted on 08/12/2010 9:48:57 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_thela_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: JoSixChip

Sometimes the judgmental do nothing critics are right.

Orly would be much more of a pleasure to watch if she wasn’t bent on trying to do the right thing in the screamingly wrong way, making things much more difficult for those that would follow.


9 posted on 08/12/2010 9:50:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Tex-Con-Man; HiTech RedNeck

Ya, it’s not like any other great achievers have been called lunatics in our history.


10 posted on 08/12/2010 9:55:39 PM PDT by JoSixChip (You think your having a bad day?.....Just remember, somewhere out there is a Mr. Pelosi!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Setting your hair on fire and running around in circles chasing your tail is "persistent doing"...but is it accomplishing anything?

Let's be clear on one thing, IF Obama was ineligible for the office of the president, the greatest case of election fraud in the history of our country took place when he was elected and now in this country there are two camps,those that want to know if Obama is ineligible and those that honestly don't want to know weather he is or isn't.

If you are one of those that does not want to know, I pity you, you are willing to sacrifice everything that guides our country for the sake of your own comfort zone and in the end you will never have the comfort you seek.

11 posted on 08/12/2010 9:59:35 PM PDT by usmcobra (.Islam: providing Live Targets for United States Marines since 1786!)
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To: stevenl77

BUMP


12 posted on 08/12/2010 9:59:44 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: JoSixChip

My dear Mr. Straw Man, sometimes a clown is just a clown.


13 posted on 08/12/2010 10:04:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: JoSixChip
Ya, a lot of do-nothing critics! I don't want them covering my back!
14 posted on 08/12/2010 10:06:32 PM PDT by vigilante2 (Reelect Nobody)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Orly would be much more of a pleasure to watch if she wasn’t bent on trying to do the right thing in the screamingly wrong way, making things much more difficult for those that would follow.

Why don't you enlighten Orly and the rest of us who simply demand BO/BS comply with the natural born citizenship clause in Article 2 Section 1, by explaining in detail the right way to prove he is illegally occupying the Oval Office?
15 posted on 08/12/2010 10:11:13 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: stevenl77

to all the critics who say what Orly Taitz is doing it the wrong way, step up and do it the right way or just STFU!
She should have $200,000 minimum given the stakes!

I respect Orly Taitz because she has shown more webboes than any of the nay-sayers have shown! Go ahead, what’s your excuse?


16 posted on 08/12/2010 10:15:49 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: stevenl77

I wish Mrs. Taitz nothing but success. This has been a most frustrating situation, and her intent to see justice served is admirable as well as patriotic in my opinion.


17 posted on 08/12/2010 10:19:50 PM PDT by chris37
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To: chris37
I wish Mrs. Taitz nothing but success. This has been a most frustrating situation, and her intent to see justice served is admirable as well as patriotic in my opinion.

I echo your sentiments.

18 posted on 08/12/2010 10:21:40 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Yea, I give her props. She is just going after an extreme injustice. Most people just shrug.


19 posted on 08/12/2010 10:30:28 PM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Man50D

Feeding the courts briefs that look like they came from the software that generates phoney websites is scarcely “simply.”


20 posted on 08/12/2010 10:34:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: J Edgar

$200,000 could buy a lot of monkeys and typewriters, granted. Why does nobody else step up? Because she’s poisoned the well.


21 posted on 08/12/2010 10:36:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: JoSixChip
Ya, it’s not like any other great achievers have been called lunatics in our history.

Ya' know who else has been called lunatics? ...lunatics!

22 posted on 08/12/2010 10:42:54 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: RachelFaith
Look we have fools bigger than her sitting in our government right now. I don't give a hoot who does it as long as the people know who and what we are dealing with.

If Obama is in ineligible; then he needs to go.

23 posted on 08/12/2010 10:46:17 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Setting your hair on fire and running around in circles chasing your tail is "persistent doing"...but is it accomplishing anything?

For a couple of years, now, the eligibility issue has kept millions of Leftists and their enablers busy typing replies into forums decrying the effort to get Obama to produce even as much documentation as my grandkids needed to get into kindergarden.

That alone is worthwhile, not to mention tying up leftist lawyers who could be out suing productive people, but this is the issue which was a slap in the face for many, their first critical look at the polished facade of "Hope and Change", and the issue which has been persistently chipping away at that.

Of course it is a worthwhile issue. Anything which hampers the totalitarians busy hijacking our nation is a plus, unless of course, one sides with them.

24 posted on 08/12/2010 11:27:50 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: stevenl77

Orly, you Go, girl! At least you are in the fight...


25 posted on 08/13/2010 12:23:42 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: stevenl77
It is fascinating to see any mention of Taitz attract the hyenas almost more than they swarm when Palin is mentioned. This syndrome is probably tribal, as humans tried to pick a tribe to protect them. It is likely that the weaker members, less able to fend for themselves, sought the protection of groups offering less freedom, but promising more protection - the extreme today being the very far left, but certainly including most Obama supporters.

Taitz threatens them, much as Sarah Palin does, because her response to a threat to the survival of her family is to fight, using the laws of the society she has joined. She escaped Moldavia, where the majority of Jews had been purged during and after WWII, for Israel, and, while a striking beauty who could have picked a wealthy husband, went to University and obtained a degree in dentistry, and dental surgery.

Having emigrated to the U.S., established a thriving practice, and while raising three children, she studied law and passed the California Bar, all while also obtaining a broker's license and selling real estate. That is why she, like Sarah Palin, is such a threat to the dependent sloths of the left. She didn't ask for special grants, a subplot of Obama’s life; she worked ferociously, and succeeded. That's why the parasites are so resentful.

Taitz was the first (that this writer heard in Dec 2008) to gently correct the impression given by the persuasive speaker and long time Democratic operative, Phillip Berg, that Obama was de facto illegitimate because of his alien father. Berg always avoided John Jay, John Marshall, Waite, Hamiliton and 14th Amendment Bingham. (Berg may still be working for the party, though he is described as a Hillary supporter). She didn't see others picking up the ball, so she did. That really aroused the parasites anticipating the spoils of the promised redistribution of the wealth created by the doers.

She knows tyranny. She lived in tyranny through her teen years. She isn't bothered by the childish name callers. Anyone who has tackled projects knows there is a learning curve. Some dive in and make mistakes to learn. Some think for a long time, and then dive in, perhaps making fewer mistakes, but also showing little progress while they deliberate. Some are afraid of mistakes and never do anything. Taitz probably mostly did real estate contracts, and took on federal courts and the supreme court. Experienced attorneys will of course find fault with her technique. But none dared take it on, and many criticized her legal skills. They may have felt battling the government put too much at risk, particularly given the non-productive nature, and dependence upon the government largess of the legal profession. Taitz knows from very personal experience that the government is the risk.

Taitz uncovered Obama's social security anomalies, which at first seemed a distraction, but are now beginning to show the shape of the key to Obama's past. She caused Obama’s personal, and now, White House Defense Counsel, Bob Bauer, to insert one of his staff into the staff of Federal Judge Carter, who had promised Taitz discovery. To force a retired Marine into a bald faced lie showed who had the courage of convictionss. She has exposed how nasty the rot in government is.

She discovered that her pleadings were being managed off the supreme court docket by clerks who presumably have no authority. Certainly, such clerks may be under orders by the court, which, as Clarence Thomas pointed out, is “evading the issue.”

Taitz went further to expose some rot in the purportedly conservative media by running for Secretary of State in California, because that office should have insisted upon some assurance that Obama was eligible. She immediately got a primary opponent, Damon Dunn, who, eight months before was a registered Democrat in both Florida and Texas, and a self described admirer of Obama. (He claimed he never voted, but had the forsight to ask the Florida Sec. State to expunge his record.) Thus far, Roger Hedgcock and Brian Sussman have pitched Dunn questions soundling more like Chris Mathews to Obama, enthralled with his football career and rise from rags to riches. The Democrats, of course, probably don't expect Jason Dunn to be any more than a spoiler, since a million voters for Taitz are more likely to write her name in than vote for a fraud, newly minted Republican or not. The usual voter fraud in California, with many testifying that write in ballots disappeared, or blocks of votes were miscounted, was palpable. Taitz would have cleaned that up, requiring photo ID, purging dead people, and investigating suspicious duplicate write-in ballots.

Taitz knows well that Secretaries of State are an office targeted by a new Soros NGO. Soros knows that a complete coup requires contolling what remains of the already compromised election process. It takes time and money to accomplish reversals such as those in Washington State and Minnesota. Better to fix the count up front where counts have abolutely no audit trail, or, in many states including California, no requirement for voter ID. We, as usual, are funding our own destruction. Taitz, frustrated by the corruption of the judicial system, figured she could protect her adopted nation, and its almost unique guarantee of individual freedom by helping to make elections honest.

Taitz is a hero, doing battle because, like most naturalized citizens, she understands and appreciates our Constitution better than most native born citizens of the U.S. - the term Obama uses to describe his own citizenship, and a classification ineligible for the presidency. Taitz, like Obama and McCain, is not currently - without an amendment to Article II - eligible to be president, but from the frantic personal attacks, she is having remarkable success doing battle with this one.

26 posted on 08/13/2010 12:59:54 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding

I have wondered why Orly stirs such ire on FR. Obamabots who can only disparage her efforts. The trouble is with the courts, not Orly.
barbra ann


27 posted on 08/13/2010 1:18:45 AM PDT by barb-tex (Nov. 2!(Election Day) Dia de los Muertas. ( Day of the Dead), Them or Us. Nov 5, Guy Falkes Day)
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To: Spaulding; bootless

“Taitz is a hero, doing battle because, like most naturalized citizens, she understands and appreciates our Constitution better than most native born citizens of the U.S. - the term Obama uses to describe his own citizenship, and a classification ineligible for the presidency. Taitz, like Obama and McCain, is not currently - without an amendment to Article II - eligible to be president, but from the frantic personal attacks, she is having remarkable success doing battle with this one. “

Spaulding: Thank you.

bootless: Ping.


28 posted on 08/13/2010 1:29:06 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: stevenl77
Supremes looking at ingnoring eligibility, again

Fixed.

29 posted on 08/13/2010 1:46:39 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (For the first time in half a century, there is no former KKK member in the US Senate.)
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To: Spaulding
Nicely stated, Spaulding, thanks.

(Especially the part about the Secretaries of States who act as elections officers reponsible for vetting candidates. It gives me pause...)
30 posted on 08/13/2010 2:03:12 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Feeding the courts briefs that look like they came from the software that generates phoney websites is scarcely “simply.”

You didn't answer my question. I didn't ask what you thought she did. I asked you to explain in detail the right way to prove BO/BS is ineligible. What would you do?
31 posted on 08/13/2010 3:42:54 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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I am beginning to think that Obama doesn’t want his BC shown because there is something on it that exposes his nicely crafted bio. Probably who is parents actually are....Toots/FMD, ‘Pops’/black prostitute, etc.

This whole BC saga reminds me of a medical condition. Ø thinks it will go away by ignoring but it becomes infected and then turns into gangreen(sp?) and then eventually kills him. The Cure? Show us the BC Barack.

I wonder if the NYT will reclassify ‘Dreams’ as fiction and whether he’ll have to go on Oprah and apologize.


32 posted on 08/13/2010 3:59:19 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: stevenl77

I have to hand it to people like Taitz and Berg. They aren’t giving up, and as the Obama myth continues to unravel, one of these days the public will be ready to listen to some truth about this con man’s murky background.


33 posted on 08/13/2010 4:09:22 AM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve qui peut)
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To: Spaulding

Excellent post Spaulding.

I see the same qualities you do and the same vituperative reaction from the lefties.

Another woman with balls.


34 posted on 08/13/2010 4:11:40 AM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: Clump

“She is just going after an extreme injustice. Most people just shrug.”

That’s correct. If the lie is big enough, people can’t bring themselves to doubt it. I think Hitler said that, but he probably wasn’t the first.


35 posted on 08/13/2010 5:39:17 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: J Edgar
I respect Orly Taitz because she has shown more webboes than any of the nay-sayers have shown!

Huevos. It's Spanish for "eggs."

36 posted on 08/13/2010 6:41:52 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Spaulding

Wow....an excellent post Spaulding...thank you

Just perplexes me how Taitz even gets attacked by so-called “conservatives”....many who spent the Clinton era chasing around women’s clothes with his semen on it.

Unlike the Clinton shenanigans (which were moral and legislative law issues....not Consititutional qualification issues)....Obama’s being legal to serve is an issue totally rooted in the Constitution...and it is pretty well spelled out

Interesting that Taitz is more willing to follow and enforce our Constitution more than some of the radio talkers who spend hours a week discussing the same Constitution


37 posted on 08/13/2010 7:14:58 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com. You either voting for JD, or voting for the Liberal...)
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To: Spaulding

Thanks for posting that. Your comments about the SoS’s is really on point. I think one of the biggest issues is that corruption is far more widespread than most people are willing to accept or believe. The progressives of both parties have done a heck of a job convincing people that the corruption they see is just one of so many ‘isolated incidents’.


38 posted on 08/13/2010 7:52:50 AM PDT by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: JoSixChip
There are persistent doers, and there are judgmental do-nothing critics.

And then there's Orly. Who is in a category all her own.

39 posted on 08/13/2010 8:03:02 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Man50D

Why don’t you enlighten Orly and the rest of us who simply demand BO/BS comply with the natural born citizenship clause in Article 2 Section 1, by explaining in detail the right way to prove he is illegally occupying the Oval Office?


No one seriously challenging Obama’s eligibility would accept a document released under his authority.
Here’s my suggestion:
Step One: Stop using the civil lawsuit side of the justice system: 72 lawsuits have already failed including 8 denials at the US Supreme Court. At some point you have to learn that legal strategy simply will not work.
Step Two: Find a prosecuting attorney who is not disposed to support Obama. That prosecutor can be a local district attorney, a state Attorney General, or a US Attorney left over from a previous Republican administration.
Step Three: That prosecuting attorney launches a Grand Jury investigation of Obama and the Obama campaign for forgery, fraud, election fraud, making false statements and/or altering official documents. Grand juries can meet in most states for practically any reason.
Step Four: All Obama’s birth and eligibility documents are subpoenaed for examination by experts before the Grand Jury.
Step Five: If there are irregularities uncovered, indictments are isssued. Officials of the state of Hawaii are subpoenaed to testify under oath. A deposition is taken from Obama.
Step Five: Even without a trial, Obama either resigns as a liablility to the Democratic Party (as Nixon did as a liability to the Republican Party)when the Watergate Grand Jury named him as an “unindicted co-conspirator” or Obama is impeached by the House of Representatives and tried by the US Senate (as Bill Clinton was based on evidence provided by the Whitewater Grand Jury).


40 posted on 08/13/2010 10:05:08 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: FreeStateYank

Excellent post Spaulding.

I see the same qualities you do and the same vituperative reaction from the lefties.

Another woman with balls.


The problem with Orly Taitz and her balls is that her lawyering skills are minimal and every time she loses, it sets precedents that make it more difficult for more skilled constitutional attorneys to overcome.
The judge who fined her $20,000 was a former conservative Republican state Senator from Columbus, Georgia who was recommended for the federal judgeship by Georgia’s Republican Senator Saxby Chambliss and that judge was nominated to the federal bench by George W. Bush.
Here’s what that judge said in his opinion dismissing one of Ms. Taitz’s lawsuits:
““The Court observes that the President defeated seven opponents in a grueling campaign for his party’s nomination that lasted more than eighteen months and cost those opponents well over $300 million. Then the President faced a formidable opponent in the general election who received $84 million to conduct his general election campaign against the President. It would appear that ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would support any contention that the President was not eligible for the office he sought. Furthermore, Congress is apparently satisfied that the President is qualified to serve. Congress has not instituted impeachment proceedings, and in fact, the House of Representatives in a broad bipartisan manner has rejected the suggestion that the President is not eligible for office. See H.R. Res. 593, 111th Cong. (2009) (commemorating, by vote of 378-0, the 50th anniversary of Hawaii’s statehood and stating, “the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961”). “

“A spurious claim questioning the President’s constitutional legitimacy may be protected by the First Amendment, but a Court’s placement of its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.”
“–US Federal District Court Judge for the Middle District of Georgia Clay D. Land in dismissing “Rhodes v MacDonald” September 16, 2009


And a Ronald Reagan appointed CHIEF US District Court judge said of Orly Taitz: “This is one of several such suits filed by Ms. Taitz in her quixotic attempt to prove that President Obama is not a natural born citizen as required by Constitution. See U.S. CONST. art. II, § 1. This Court is not willing to go tilting at windmills with her.”—Chief US District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth in dismissing the Quo Warranto claim in “Taitz v Obama”—April 14, 2010

And a federal judge who is a Vietnam Veteran US Marine Corps Lieutenant who won the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart at the Battle of Khe Sahn said of Ms. Taitz:
“Plaintiffs have encouraged the Court to ignore mandates of the Constitution; to disregard the limits put on its power put in place by the Constitution; and to effectively overthrow a sitting president who was popularly elected by “We the people”—over sixty nine million of the people.
Plaintiffs have attacked the judiciary, including every prior court that has dismissed their claim, as unpatriotic and even treasonous for refusing to grant their requests and for adhering to the terms of the Constitution which set forth its jurisdiction. Respecting the Constitutional role and jurisdiction of this court is not unpatriotic. Quite the contrary, this Court considers commitment to that constitutional role to be the ultimate reflection of patriotism.”—US Federal District Court Judge David O. Carter in dismissing “Captain Pamela Barnett, et. al. v Barack H. Obama, et. al.” October 29, 2009


41 posted on 08/13/2010 10:19:12 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

You have the plan. Why are you waiting? Get the ball rolling!


42 posted on 08/13/2010 10:38:29 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

You have the plan. Why are you waiting? Get the ball rolling!


I live in a state with an Obama-loving liberal Democrat as attorney general and my local district attorney is a liberal lesbian.
This needs to happen in Red State America. There are states (like Arizona) where Obama had to sign a statement testifying to the fact that he is a “natural born citizen” in order to get his name on the ballot. Those states would be a good place to start.
Here’s the text of the certifying document that Obama signed to get on the ballot in Arizona. It has his signature on the original.
“You are hereby notified that I, Barack Obama, am seeking nomination as a candidate for the office of President of the United States from the Democratic Party, at the Presidential Preference Election to be held on the 5th day of February 2008. I am a natural born citizen of the United States, am at least thirty-five years of age, and have been a resident within the United States for at least fourteen years”


43 posted on 08/13/2010 11:03:47 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: pnh102
“after the way 0bama dissed the Supreme Court during the State of the Union address, that more of these eligibility cases will creep up the docket, just as a form of “payback.” “

Thankfully, the USSC judges are mature enough not to get into pissing matches because they got “dissed”.

44 posted on 08/13/2010 11:22:41 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Spaulding

bump


45 posted on 08/13/2010 11:34:31 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: bjorn14

He belongs in jail.


46 posted on 08/13/2010 11:38:35 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: jamese777
I live in a state with an Obama-loving liberal Democrat as attorney general and my local district attorney is a liberal lesbian. This needs to happen in Red State America.

In other words you don't have the courage of your convictions to carry out your plan unlike Orly Taitz who has the courage to execute her plans despite the personal financial risk and sacrifice to her in a state that BO/BS carried by more than 3 million votes.

Here’s the text of the certifying document that Obama signed to get on the ballot in Arizona. It has his signature on the original.
“You are hereby notified that I, Barack Obama, am seeking nomination as a candidate for the office of President of the United States from the Democratic Party, at the Presidential Preference Election to be held on the 5th day of February 2008. I am a natural born citizen of the United States, am at least thirty-five years of age, and have been a resident within the United States for at least fourteen years”


Wrong! Below is the text for the two different versions of the nomination document. Note the first version includes the passage stating BO/BS is Constitutionally qualified that was sent only to the state of Hawaii.



However the Constitutional passage is omitted in the second version that was sent to the other 49 states.



Why not send the Hawaiian version to the other 49 states if BO/BS is a natural born citizen?

Your plan is obviously full of misinformation. It probably wouldn't get beyond the courtroom door or know how its effectiveness would compare to Taitz's effort since you are too busy making excuses why you can't execute your flawless plan. Fortunately for Americans you have chosen to sit on the side lines since your spineless body would have collapsed by just one look from one of BO's/BS's henchmen long before Taitz would have surrendered.
47 posted on 08/13/2010 12:01:16 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: barb-tex
I have wondered why Orly stirs such ire on FR. Obamabots who can only disparage her efforts. The trouble is with the courts, not Orly.

It's really not a mystery. If you understand what legal case documentation is and how to write it, you understand that her submittals to court are freakishly, insanely incompetent and have no chance of being taken seriously by any court.

Whatever you think of the issue she is trying to represent, her efforts are akin to someone with no taste buds and ingredients that include dirt and a motor oil vinaigrette preparing your next meal. It's simply awful.

48 posted on 08/13/2010 12:02:21 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: jamese777

I’ve read Judge Land’s opinion and that is just what it seems- an opinion without basis. I don’t see it tied to material fact and even the fudge words of ‘congress is APPARENTLY satisfied’. Of course, Cheney DIDN’T ask for objections, even though one person was waving their hand like Horshack on ‘Welcome Back Carter’. ‘APPARENTLY’ is quite disingenuously accurate.

Another fudgy phrase: ‘appearing ample time for discovery’ during the campaign. The Plaintiff had no means to ‘discover’ during the campaign and no call to do so as she hadn’t received orders for shipping overseas. That ‘appears’ to then put the onus on the candidates, a task for which they are neither responsible or qualified. It is the duty of the Parties and the Sec. of States. Furthermore, IIRC, the dodgy Sec State forms/Pelousi double signatures were presented as evidence of chicanery and were not addressed in the decision.

Land also deemed the Taitz’s questioning ‘spurious’. Well, since Obama never established his creds, it’s not spurious. And the fact that others were negligent in the performance of their job does not make a subsequent questioning of a plaintiff via their attorney ‘spurious’, quite the opposite.

Simply trotting out there were multiple cases [which were DIFFERENT cases with different plaintiffs] does not make a case for being spurious. His court was the first official bite of the apple on this particular case.

Land never once referred to the evidence to support his opinion, IIRC.

I’m no attorney, but I have read judicial decisions and they have all applied evidence for their decisions and often cite supporting case law. This reads like an exasperated rant.

Simply because Regan appointed this judge does not mean he is impartial, accurate, or just, ever or at all times.

I also read Judge Carter’s decision and found it also went off the rails and further, find the addition of a new clerk who worked for Obama’s attorney’s firm suspect, to say the least.

You quote: “Plaintiffs have encouraged the Court to ignore mandates of the Constitution; to disregard the limits put on its power put in place by the Constitution; and to effectively overthrow a sitting president who was popularly elected by “We the people”—over sixty nine million of the people.”

Very clearly, Taitz did not ask for Obama’s ouster as relief, as the aforementioned implies. She asked for discovery of documentation. Now...if that documentation was found to be bogus or disqualifying, then Congress or SCOTUS would have work to do, but not Judge Carter.

So his argument isn’t based on the mandates of the Constitution, otherwise, he would address the documentation status and why the query should fail. Instead, it is a general statement, followed by a blurb about ‘popular vote’

Popular vote does not obviate the obligation of several layers of officials to do their job- which they failed miserably. So if government is corrupt or a total f$#$up, then there is no recourse? If rampant vote fraud is discovered after levers are pulled and votes tallied and can be proven, is it too late, since it is a ‘popular’ vote? That is what his statement ‘appears’ to indicate.

Especially in Judge Carter’s case, the ‘tone’ of his writings changed throughout the course of the process, IMO, which I find interesting.

Yet, I think Land and Carter are patriots...

The last case w/ Lambeth does the same thing. It attacks the plaintiffs integrity and attempts to paint her as a quack, but never does it establish why, exactly, the case is without merit.

So now she’s on SCOTUS’s docket, challenging the 20k fine. Perhaps this is the only way to open the door.If the fine is found unjust, I’d be curious to the reasoning. If it is because the judges opinion was not sound, I’m thinking the original case might have justification for being reheard... or not, depending.

To me, it ‘appears’ it wasn’t the ‘time’ to have this case settled. If it had been, there would have been an uproar at a great cost to the Republic. At this point, Zero is tanking so much, he’s lost much of his agitprop base.

Timing can sometimes be everything.

Interesting the impact of the SCOTUS hearing as evidence in the Larkin case...and the timing for all seems to be in alignment. Perhaps it’s a judiciary checkmate on the machinations of the of the Executive Branch and their functioaries for the upcoming November elections: keep them clean or we’ll clean your clock.

Two Globe stories about Obama’s dubious documentation on checkout stands within the past month or so, which reaches a vast audience of all segments of the populace; coupled with CNN’s recent cover story of ‘loads of Presidents were thought ineligible’..looks like the public is being softened up for unexpected news which may or may not be sprung...

And this might just be a great outline for a fabulous fictitious story.


49 posted on 08/13/2010 1:11:54 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: jamese777

Grand juries, which are valid, have run into issues in some cases.

There is another way: the fourth court established by Regan located in NYC...


50 posted on 08/13/2010 1:14:29 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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