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Calif. won't appeal Prop 8 ruling (and judge says regular citizen have no standing)
UPI ^ | Aug. 12, 2010

Posted on 08/13/2010 4:15:28 AM PDT by xzins

SAN FRANCISCO, Aug. 12 (UPI) -- California will not appeal a U.S. judge's decision to lift a stay on his injunction blocking the state's voter-enacted ban on same-sex marriage, officials said.

U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn R. Walker said Thursday he would lift the stay and allow same-sex marriages to proceed, but not until Aug. 18. Such marriages would be permitted after that unless an appeals court, possibility the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, issues a stay beyond the date.

Walker warned the amendment's sponsors may not have standing, or status, to make the appeal because they were not affected by the stay.

"As it appears at least doubtful that proponents will be able to proceed with their appeal without a state defendant, it remains unclear whether the court of appeals will be able to reach the merits of proponents' appeal," Walker wrote. "In light of those concerns, proponents may have little choice but to attempt to convince either the governor or the attorney general to file an appeal to ensure jurisdiction."

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and state Attorney General Jerry Brown had urged the judge to immediately lift the stay, allowing gay and lesbian marriages to go on during the legal process, and a spokesman for the governor indicated Thursday Schwarzenegger will not appeal the ruling, the Los Angeles Times reported.

"The governor supports the judge's ruling," spokesman Aaron McLear said.

If higher courts concur with Walker on the standing issue, they would not decide the issue on its merits, the newspaper said. However, the case could still get further hearings on procedural issues, during which time the ruling overturning Proposition 8 would stand in California.

In issuing a preliminary injunction Aug. 4 against the ban, a state constitutional amendment called Proposition 8, the judge said it "both unconstitutionally burdens the exercise of the fundamental right to marry and creates an irrational classification on the basis of sexual orientation."

The Times said the sponsors had warned they would go to the U.S. Supreme Court seeking a stay if Walker allowed same-sex marriages to continue.

California voters approved the ban in November 2008 by a 52.3 percent majority six months after the California Supreme Court ruled laws against same-sex marriage violated the state Constitution. The state court later upheld Prop 8 as a valid amendment to the state Constitution.


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KEYWORDS: california; homosexual; judicialactivist; marriage; matrimony
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To: Charlespg

Pick your march:

Aug. 28 with Glenn Beck

or

Sept. 12 the 9/12 Project

[Mr] T


61 posted on 08/13/2010 6:44:37 AM PDT by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: xzins

Ultimately, I fear that the govt will try to force churches and clergy to perform same sex marriage ceremonies or lose their tax exempt status.


62 posted on 08/13/2010 6:47:04 AM PDT by a real Sheila (FUBO! We must clean house in November.)
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To: MarkL
If the courts rule that a marriage doesn’t have to be between a man and woman, then why should it limit marriage between species, or more than 2 people?

Polygamy would be easier to rule as being valid marriage, as it is legal many countries, and historically had been recognized even in the Bible (at least for kings).

63 posted on 08/13/2010 6:48:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: pnh102

That’s exactly right. Gray Davis did it to 187. Hence, the constitutionality of 187 has never been fully litigated.


64 posted on 08/13/2010 7:04:16 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Man50D

This is an interesting legal point. The judge is asserting that homosexual marriage has no effect on heterosexuals or society as a whole, or at least not a negative effect.


65 posted on 08/13/2010 7:09:39 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: wintertime

I agree with you, hadn’t seen the ‘no standing’ tactic until Obama’s lawyers used it in blocking release of his BC.

This much is known, that the Left and its lawyers talk, message and conference amongst themselves. Hence it’s not a stretch to imagine they are using the same tactics for different issues.


66 posted on 08/13/2010 7:13:34 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: US Navy Vet

agreed and we still have so called conservatives saying well I know a homosexual and they are nice so I have no problem if they get married etc.

Also look at the talk radio , so called conservative TV show hosts.
Do we ever hear the likes of Hannity etc talk about the homosexual agenda?
No they’re too afraid to and being afraid is what the homosexuals want in order to pass their agenda.

We know this is not about marriage this is about a step in their agenda, next step is to teach it in schools, force private schools religious orgs etc.

We also have to stop playing their word game, they are not gay, gay has another meaning and the word should not be hijacked, they are homosexuals so we should all be saying homosexuals


67 posted on 08/13/2010 7:16:18 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: xzins

In general, I think the whole “standing” thing has become “shut up, you peasants have no say in what we elites are doing.”


68 posted on 08/13/2010 7:17:03 AM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: MizSterious

“In general, I think the whole “standing” thing has become “shut up, you peasants have no say in what we elites are doing.””

Bingo. We have a winner!


69 posted on 08/13/2010 7:17:51 AM PDT by paulycy (Restore Constitutionality: Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Venturer

When prop 8 passed, I told my wife it’s great, but they’ll have it overturned in a year. Turned out it took them 2.

I think we reach the end of the rope about November.


70 posted on 08/13/2010 7:35:13 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Gasshog

Dropping LA & SF would suffice. The rest of the state isn’t too bad...


71 posted on 08/13/2010 7:41:25 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: P-Marlowe

Maybe - but she will work harder to get the business of the state in better shape. JB has no decernable change in i his ideas - which are part of the 40 year DemocRAT system of running government. She will change somethings - what I don’t know but she will be able to look at a P&l and see what is BS. That is a start.


72 posted on 08/13/2010 7:41:36 AM PDT by q_an_a (a)
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To: xzins

Voters who passed the proposition have no standing because they aren’t affected?

Just wow

... And WTF


73 posted on 08/13/2010 7:45:30 AM PDT by hattend (Like a termite to wood, Obama only wants to destroy - Mark Levin)
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To: xzins
(and judge says regular citizen peasants have no standing)

It was touch and go for a few generations there after the American Revolution, but Their Lordships have now got the peasants back in their places.

74 posted on 08/13/2010 7:57:21 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Watching the MSM with Obama is like watching Joslyn James with Tiger Woods)
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To: rockinqsranch
I’ve never understood why the Constitutionality of initiatives wasn’t determined prior to the vote.

It was. By Jerry Brown, Ca. AG. Consider the the contempt shown to the people by a state AG actively moving to thwart the people and will not defend their legal interests. Jerry Brown is a communist bastard. One wonders if Meg Whitman "is a huge fan".

The state court later upheld Prop 8 as a valid amendment to the state Constitution. When push comes to shove, we see that we actually have a Ruling Class dictatorship, by and for the benefit of elitist, memebers-only Oberfuhrers.

75 posted on 08/13/2010 8:06:31 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Truth29

‘Schwarzenegger should be dragged out of office and not allowed to complete his term.’

He and Gov moonbeam should be hung by their necks until dead for failing to uphold the Constitution of the state of California.


76 posted on 08/13/2010 8:16:01 AM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: xzins

How did we ever permit a single court and a single judge to outweigh the vote of the People?


77 posted on 08/13/2010 8:20:04 AM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: pnh102

209 is the law, but you are correct about Prop 187. It was never appealed.


78 posted on 08/13/2010 8:21:43 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: concerned about politics
They're creating another Valdemar Republic.

This took me a while...did you mean Weimar Republic?

79 posted on 08/13/2010 8:22:13 AM PDT by Moltke (panem et circenses)
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To: q_an_a
Maybe - but she will work harder to get the business of the state in better shape.

She is too politically soft and squishy to do anything. She lied to get the nomination and she cannot be trusted. I will not vote for her.

80 posted on 08/13/2010 8:42:24 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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