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Napolitano: 'Any talk of amending the constitution is just wrong'
The Hill ^ | August 13, 2010 | Sam Youngman

Posted on 08/13/2010 10:51:30 AM PDT by jazusamo

Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano on Friday rejected Republican calls to amend the Constitution to prevent children of illegal immigrants from gaining citizenship.

“Any talk of amending the Constitution is just wrong,” Napolitano said in comments at the daily White House press briefing.

Some Republicans have suggested the 14th Amendment should be changed to prevent the natural born children of illegal immigrants from obtaining citizenship. The amendment was approved after the Civil War to ensure citizenship for freed slaves, especially in the South.

Critics argue that illegal immigrants come to the U.S. for the express purpose of winning citizenship for babies born in the U.S.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs blasted Republicans for suggesting a closer examination and possible change to the equal protection amendment, noting the irony of a party dedicated to strict constructionists talking about tinkering with the Constitution.

“It's rich in its irony; it's wrong in its approach,” Gibbs said.

Napolitano also hit the GOP for not joining the Obama administration in calling for comprehensive immigration reform, which would include a pathway to citizenship for the country’s illegal immigrants.

Napolitano is the former governor of Arizona, the frontline in today’s immigration debate. The federal government successfully sued Arizona over its controversial immigration law, which would give new powers to local police to crack down on illegal immigrants.

The Homeland Security secretary boasted that the $600 million bill President Obama signed Friday for border security is a step in the right direction, but comprehensive reform will only be possible when “Republicans finally” come to the table.

“It needs to happen,” she said.

Gibbs added: "With a little leadership, we could have comprehensive immigration reform."

While she acknowledged that the sluggish U.S. economy was partially responsible for the decrease in illegal border crossings, Napolitano said Obama's efforts have also helped to stop the flow of illegal immigration.

“These efforts are making a difference,” she said.

But Napolitano said a schedule for passing comprehensive reform is out of Obama's hands.

“This is in the hands of the Congress, and they will need to address it in a bipartisan way,” Napolitano said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; aliens; anchorbabies; illegals
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To: jazusamo
Crappy Nappy, aka Big Sis, is just plain wrong and needs to be removed from her post. She took an oath to uphold the laws of the USA and the Constitution. Crappy is doing neither. Crappy had every bit as much to do with the lawsuit against AZ as Eric Holder had - they both march to the same drummer. IMPEACH. Show us your spine GOP. Run on a platform of CHANGING back our Government to WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT,, not what the Marxists that hijacked the RAT party want.
21 posted on 08/13/2010 11:14:44 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: jazusamo

Who pulled her string?

As if we could give a sh*t about her opinion on that matter, or any other.


22 posted on 08/13/2010 11:16:23 AM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be a Pariah)
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To: jazusamo

... unlike ignoring the constitution.


23 posted on 08/13/2010 11:16:36 AM PDT by alecqss
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To: jazusamo

They keep talking about amending the Constitution but that’s a smokescreen. It doesn’t need to be changed, Congress is within their rights to end anchor baby abuse legislatively and all the “opponents” know it, including Harry Reid and Napolitano.


24 posted on 08/13/2010 11:19:00 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: jazusamo
-- it pointed out that the children of diplomats born here are not US citizens. --

The legal fiction is that diplomat remains domiciled in his home country, even if he stays in this country for years at a go.

Children of transient visitors (non resident visa, and via waiver situations; not just illegals) should likewise obtain the citizenship of their parents' domicile. This is what "subject to the jurisdiction" meant when it was passed. As interpreted (incorrectly), the words are surplussage. Meaning that even if "subject to the jurisdiction" was removed from the 14th amendment, children of diplomats would still be citizens of the their home country - ergo, those words aren't in the 14th amendment to protect the citizenship of the diplomat's kids.

25 posted on 08/13/2010 11:22:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: KarlInOhio
“and on those days when I'm not thinking of how corrupt Blagojevich was in selling a Senate seat I would like to repeal the 17th amendment.”

LOL!

“This F-ing plum falls in my F-ing lap; and I'm supposed to F-ing give it away? No F-ing way!” Gov Blagojevich on his duty to find a new Senator for the people of Illinois.

Yes, absent the direct election of Senators, smoky backroom deals would be the norm. A whole lot of ‘you scratch my back, i scratch yours’, etc.

26 posted on 08/13/2010 11:23:46 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
-- They keep talking about amending the Constitution but that's a smokescreen. --

Aye, a deliberate one. The intent is to make it "too hard" to change, so that the people are misled to think that the country must, as a matter of "the way things are and should be," admit to citizenship every person born on this soil, regardless.

If Congress out and admitted it could do this by legislation, the outcry would be "where have you boneheads been for the last 30 years?"

Another favorite diversion is to assign the decision either to a court, or to a regulatory agency. See too, assigning monetary policy to the Federal Reserve.

27 posted on 08/13/2010 11:26:32 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: jazusamo

Yea, but it seems reasonable to overturn the CA Constitution any time you want. Go figure?


28 posted on 08/13/2010 11:29:12 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: jazusamo

Any law eliminating anchor babies would immediately be struck down as a violation of the 14th Amendment. The only way to prevent the phenomenon is by amending the Constitution.

The same applies to the Definition of Marriage. Without a constitutional amendment, we’re at the mercy of activist courts.


29 posted on 08/13/2010 11:30:49 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: jazusamo
“Any talk of amending the Constitution is just wrong,” Napolitano said in comments at the daily White House press briefing.

Uh, Janet, you dumbass, the Constitution outlines the process for amending the Constitution.

Since the founding fathers anticipated the possible need for changes they put that in.

You may not agree with the talk, but it's not wrong.

Article 5 - Amendment

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

How can these people, charged with the responsibility of administering the fed government, possibly function without an understanding of the document that allows them to exist as functionaries?

I want all government functionaries to pass a test before they can be sworn in and allowed to serve.

30 posted on 08/13/2010 11:30:57 AM PDT by and so? (If it angers you, a sarcasm or irony tag after everything I post should be assumed)
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To: jazusamo
How about comprehensive immigration law enforcement!


31 posted on 08/13/2010 11:34:55 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: jazusamo
Some Republicans have suggested the 14th Amendment should be changed to prevent the natural born children of illegal immigrants from obtaining citizenship. The amendment was approved after the Civil War to ensure citizenship for freed slaves, especially in the South.

Most probably it was the Southern Democrats in the civil war era who were against citizenship for the children of freed slaves.

32 posted on 08/13/2010 11:36:03 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: jazusamo
Some Republicans have suggested the 14th Amendment should be changed to prevent the natural born children of illegal immigrants from obtaining citizenship. The amendment was approved after the Civil War to ensure citizenship for freed slaves, especially in the South.

Most probably it was the Southern Democrats in the civil war era who were against citizenship for the children of freed slaves.

33 posted on 08/13/2010 11:36:03 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: and so?
How can these people, charged with the responsibility of administering the fed government, possibly function without an understanding of the document that allows them to exist as functionaries? I want all government functionaries to pass a test before they can be sworn in and allowed to serve.

I want term limits for congress as well as a defensive of marriage amendment.

34 posted on 08/13/2010 11:36:42 AM PDT by Charlespg
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To: IronJack

I believe you’re correct and the fruitcake judge Walker overturning Prop 8 is a good example. His ruling might not stand but it shows the activist judges will stop at nothing on issues such as these.


35 posted on 08/13/2010 11:37:09 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Cboldt
Maybe that's the game they want to play, pretend they didn't know they could have stopped the abuses legislatively in order to absolve themselves of their massively irresponsible behavior.

Anchor babies are costing us billions annually but in reality is just another cheap immigration program that so many in Congress support. We take in 2 million a year legally but that's still not enough for many of them.

So far Lamar Smith is one of the few honest ones who's said publicly this can be done through legislation but it looks to me like there are those as usual trying to find excuses not to do it.

36 posted on 08/13/2010 11:37:54 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: nathanbedford

Amen to that.


37 posted on 08/13/2010 11:38:19 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

“natural born children of illegal ...”

That is the whole point, natural born MEANS a child born of US citizens, whether on US soil or otherwise authorized (Foreign servie/Mil duty and a few obsure others).

The children of illegals are NOT US citizens in the natural born sense and should not be US citizens at all.

Yes, I am a meany.


38 posted on 08/13/2010 11:41:23 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: nathanbedford
"How about comprehensive immigration law enforcement!"


39 posted on 08/13/2010 11:42:49 AM PDT by paulycy (Restore Constitutionality: Marxism is Evil.)
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To: jazusamo
Somebody tell that fat, ugly lesbi-man to shut up, or every word it says can and will be used against it at its treason trial.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

40 posted on 08/13/2010 11:42:54 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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