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'Will retaliate if offended by US', warns Chinese General
The Times of India ^ | 14 August, 2010 | The Times of India

Posted on 08/13/2010 4:44:31 PM PDT by James C. Bennett

BEIJING: A Chinese General on Friday termed as "flagrant provocation" US plans to send a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to the Yellow Sea and said the country would retaliate if "offended".

"A country needs respect, so does a military. We will retaliate if we are offended," Major General Luo Yuan, deputy secretary-general of the People's Liberation Army's (PLA) Academy of Military Sciences, wrote in an editorial in the PLA Daily.

The US is "pushing its security boundary to the doorstep of others — the Yellow Sea, South China Sea and so on," Luo said.

China had in the recent weeks voice its firm opposition to activities of foreign military vessels or planes in the Yellow Sea and China's coastal waters, saying they undermine it security interests. Despite China's warning, the US insists on sending the carrier ‘USS George Washington', he said

The General was reacting to remarks by Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, that the carrier will always go into international waters.

China is developing a new missile called Dong Feng 21D, that could penetrate the defenses of even the most advanced aircraft carrier at a distance of more than 1,500 km.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arms; china; trade; us
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1 posted on 08/13/2010 4:44:32 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

Well then, the entire US Navy is now on ‘double secret probation’.


2 posted on 08/13/2010 4:46:32 PM PDT by maine yankee
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To: James C. Bennett

Hey China.... don’t do anything now please, our president is on extended vacation.


3 posted on 08/13/2010 4:47:31 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: James C. Bennett

Commence the trade war.

Seriously.

It’s only going to get worse, the longer we wait.

And the entire time, China is becoming more dangerous.

Time to shut down imports from China. Just turn the ships away.


4 posted on 08/13/2010 4:47:39 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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To: James C. Bennett

Bowin’ Barry has convinced all of the world’s fruitcakes that Americans are just a bunch of wussies!


5 posted on 08/13/2010 4:50:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Taliban!)
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To: James C. Bennett

The only thing that concerns me about this threat is the fact that we have an America Hating Marxist asshat in command of our military.

That in and of itself is very concerning.


6 posted on 08/13/2010 4:53:03 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

WRT China, what president has done anything to make them believe otherwise.

We for some insane reason long ago came to the (wrong) conclusion that America should maintain a posture of weakness and submissiveness in every way about China.

Which is the exact wrong thing for us to do. As China becomes stronger, China will become more aggressive.

Period.

The more money and technology we send to China, the more aggressive and dangerous the country will become.

We are creating our own worst possible enemy, by our bone-headed and wrong policy, of not standing up for our interests vis-a-vis China.

It didn’t have to be this way. But now that it is, we have got to change the way we do business with China.

Or frankly, we’re going to be destroyed as a nation and a culture, within one generation.

Wake up people.


7 posted on 08/13/2010 4:55:04 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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To: James C. Bennett
If the Chinese had any respect at all for the current administration they would never talk that way. Neither China nor the former Soviet Union ever spoke that way when Reagan was president. The Chinese consider the current administration to be weak and cowardly punks that they can push around whenever they want.

The question is who in Washington is going to put on the knee pads and grovel and apologize.

8 posted on 08/13/2010 4:55:29 PM PDT by detective
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To: James C. Bennett

Is everyone perpetually offended these days?


9 posted on 08/13/2010 4:58:09 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin)
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To: James C. Bennett

I’d call their bluff, but knowing the AnnointedIdiot, he will back down...the idiotPOTUS enjoys us looking as weak as a paper tiger. =.=


10 posted on 08/13/2010 4:59:02 PM PDT by cranked
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To: James C. Bennett

I guess the biggest chink in our foreign affairs armor is our ignorance of 1) what offends the Middle Kingdom, and 2) how easy it is to do.


11 posted on 08/13/2010 4:59:13 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Hey General, two thoughts. First, look up “international waters.” Second, you sound insecure, only the weak lash out when they don’t have to.


12 posted on 08/13/2010 4:59:26 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: detective

So who on “our side” has taken any sort of stand for American strength and industry?

Who on “our side” has been in any way more intelligent about keeping American strength?

NOBODY.

While the commies in the Democrat party are disarming us, the “Free Trade” dumb*sses in our own party are tearing down American industry as fast as they can, and sending them to China.

Both sides are doing exactly the wrong things.

We’re in a glass house, and have no business criticising leftists as long as we have no better ideas than surrender.

Because that’s what we’re doing.

Arguably, even more efficiently than the left.


13 posted on 08/13/2010 4:59:34 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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To: detective

My guess—Gates


14 posted on 08/13/2010 5:00:44 PM PDT by maine yankee
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To: Migraine

Chinese get offended to negotiate.

We are so clueless.

Someone needs to wake Americans up. Or we’re so screwed.

It would be nice, if it were CONSERVATIVES who were the ones to wake up.

Though. Getting sort of discouraged. Frankly.

Most seem brainwashed by the mantra of “free trade, free trade, free trade...”

Which they’ll be chanting right up until the time we’re invaded by a superior, better-funded, larger and far more motivated attack force - paid for and equipped entirely by.

Us.


15 posted on 08/13/2010 5:05:34 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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To: James C. Bennett

I can remember when the U.S. was a world power.


16 posted on 08/13/2010 5:06:37 PM PDT by casuist (Audi alteram partem.)
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To: James C. Bennett
We will retaliate if we are offended," Major General Luo Yuan, deputy secretary-general of the People's Liberation Army's (PLA) Academy of Military Sciences, wrote in an editorial in the PLA Daily.

So what will Major General Luo Yuan do? March a million men to the Yellow Sea and have them shake their fists at our ships?

17 posted on 08/13/2010 5:07:52 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: varon

Over-confidence becomes less appropriate, every day.

Our trade policies are guaranteeing, China will indeed have the capability to carry through with such threats.

Sooner perhaps, than any FReeper dares, to even contemplate.

Wake up people.


18 posted on 08/13/2010 5:10:01 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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To: James C. Bennett
The Chinese are starting to sound like the Norks.
19 posted on 08/13/2010 5:11:18 PM PDT by JPG (How much taxpayer $ did Mookie blow today?)
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To: casuist
"I can remember when the U.S. was a world power."

I think you mean "The World Power". But then came Bush Sr. followed by clinton.
20 posted on 08/13/2010 5:14:59 PM PDT by JoSixChip (You think your having a bad day?.....Just remember, somewhere out there is a Mr. Pelosi!)
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To: varon
So what will Major General Luo Yuan do? March a million men to the Yellow Sea and have them shake their fists at our ships?

Apparently:

Chinese 'Carrier-Killer' Missile Could Reshape Sea Combat

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/08/06/chinese-carrier-killer-missile-game-changer-expert-says/

"The emerging Chinese anti-ship missile capability, and in particular the DF 21D, represents the first post-Cold War capability that is both potentially capable of stopping our naval power projection -- and deliberately designed for that purpose," said Patrick Cronin, senior director of the Asia-Pacific Security Program at the nonpartisan, Washington-based Center for a New American Security."

21 posted on 08/13/2010 5:15:11 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Agreed.


22 posted on 08/13/2010 5:15:45 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: James C. Bennett

It’s like being alive in 1930, and seeing clearly what was about to unfold.

Trying to warn people.

That their world was about to collapse.

It’s like everyone is hypnotized. Even smart people are asleep, and frankly DETERMINED not to wake up.

Wake up people.


23 posted on 08/13/2010 5:20:53 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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To: James C. Bennett
BEIJING: A Chinese General on Friday termed as "flagrant provocation" US plans to send a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to the Yellow Sea and said the country would retaliate if "offended".

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'Nuff posted.

24 posted on 08/13/2010 5:23:21 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: James C. Bennett

Let us consider freedom of the seas, the right of innocent passage, and so on. Our ChiCom general apparently is not up on his international law when applied to the sea.


25 posted on 08/13/2010 5:24:13 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

So once we’ve finished sending all our manufacturing and technology to China.

After we’re broke, and unable to match China’s ever-growing military.

Who says there will be “international law”?


26 posted on 08/13/2010 5:27:30 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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To: James C. Bennett
A country needs respect, so does a military.

Just ask comrade Owl Bore.

27 posted on 08/13/2010 5:31:04 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What would happen if they sunk one of our carriers? In one move, China would alter the balance of global power.


28 posted on 08/13/2010 5:33:02 PM PDT by gatorhead
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To: gatorhead

That’s part of it.

What people are not grasping, is that China is already altering the balance of world power.

And we are doing absolutely nothing to stop, or even slow that process.

We are SLEEPING.


29 posted on 08/13/2010 5:34:27 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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To: James C. Bennett

AND WE WILL RETALIATE WITH A STRONGLY WORDED LETTER!


30 posted on 08/13/2010 5:38:33 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“We are SLEEPING.”

Just like Europe did in the mid thirties. You know how that ended.


31 posted on 08/13/2010 5:39:38 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: James C. Bennett

I despise the chicoms... and their agents post here on FR.

LLS


32 posted on 08/13/2010 5:42:46 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: maine yankee

He does grovel well.

LLS


33 posted on 08/13/2010 5:43:30 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: James C. Bennett

What thin-skinned, petulant whiners the ChiComs are. Everything they have they stole from their betters.


34 posted on 08/13/2010 5:48:24 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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“The emerging Chinese anti-ship missile capability, and in particular the DF 21D,”

Ok. Then fire a damn torpedo.


35 posted on 08/13/2010 5:56:18 PM PDT by rickb308 (Muslims need to check with Native Americans & ask how that whole cowboys & indians thing worked out.)
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To: rickb308
Ok. Then fire a damn torpedo.

Chinese DF-21D

36 posted on 08/13/2010 6:02:20 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Import ban. Magnificent.


37 posted on 08/13/2010 6:12:15 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: James C. Bennett

0bama is looking for a plausible excuse to have military action against an unpopular foe.

That will help him and the Democrats around election time.


38 posted on 08/13/2010 6:14:27 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: FlyingEagle

Our national de-industrialization folly, is rapidly reaching the point we have two choices.

A knock-down, no apologies and no quarter, America-first trade war to stop the collapse.

Or, the post above yours.

Pick a lane.


39 posted on 08/13/2010 6:16:06 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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To: James C. Bennett
"Chinese General on Friday termed as "flagrant provocation" US plans to send a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to the Yellow Sea and said the country would retaliate if "offended"."

Boy, if an aircraft carrier offends him, I'm betting that General really doesn't like those Ohio-class subs that could sail up and flatten him and half his country before he even knew there were there.

I'm just sayin', y'know?

40 posted on 08/13/2010 6:24:03 PM PDT by DemforBush (Serpentine, Shel! SERPENTINE!)
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To: DemforBush

LOL!


41 posted on 08/13/2010 6:27:28 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
“the “Free Trade” dumb*sses in our own party are tearing down American industry as fast as they can, and sending them to China.”

It's not as simple as that. I agree with you that trade with China has been one sided and has damaged the U.S. and enriched China. However, by far the biggest problem with China has been the technology transfers in which the U.S. government gives away our technological advances and gets nothing in return.

The missile technology that was transferred to China was simply treason.

Free trade with China has been pushed by the Democrats, more than conservatives. Sen Feingold’s husband as well as other Democrats have been big operatives in China. And don't forget all the money the Clintons got from Johnny Chung, Charley Trie, the Riadis etc.

American manufacturing became uncompetitive largely due to unions and the regulatory climate.

But despite all this the U.S. is still by far the strongest country in the world both militarily and economically. The fact that the current administration lets other countries insult and threaten the U.S. is an enormous failure of the current administration.

42 posted on 08/13/2010 6:34:57 PM PDT by detective
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To: James C. Bennett

Preempt China, today!


43 posted on 08/13/2010 6:57:14 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: gatorhead
What would happen if they sunk one of our carriers?

Nothing would happen. We would send a letter of protest to the UN. We are *bankrupt*. If China stops buying and dumps their t-bill holdings, our economy, nation, and military all come to an immediate halt.
44 posted on 08/13/2010 7:00:50 PM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: James C. Bennett

Will they not even give our government a chance to apologize first?


45 posted on 08/13/2010 7:04:46 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: gatorhead
What would happen if they sunk one of our carriers? In one move, China would alter the balance of global power.

Global thermal nuclear war. If China dares to fire a ballistic missile at one of our carriers which is sovereign American soil just like an embassy or military base they will have sealed their fate. This is nothing short of an act of Global strategic warfare and 600 million chicoms in the cities would be vaporized as our Trident D5 rain down on them, followed by the MM3 and mopped up with Bones,Buffs and Beaks at least with W or a real CIC the Marxist usurper would prob just go on more vacation.

46 posted on 08/13/2010 7:38:13 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("If you didn't grow it you mined it")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"WRT China, what president has done anything to make them believe otherwise.

We for some insane reason long ago came to the (wrong) conclusion that America should maintain a posture of weakness and submissiveness in every way about China.
"

Yes. It started with Nixon's favored constituents and has continued with every administration since then. Up to this point in time, real men have been increasingly prevented by zoning, other regulations and family-busting tactics and laws from starting new manufacturing businesses. With western culture economies crumbling because of such effeminate and thieving foolery, those policies will dissolve after the defaults.

Reject and ridicule politics as they are, and prepare yourself and your loved ones with frugality, inventiveness and foresight.


47 posted on 08/13/2010 8:04:15 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: James C. Bennett
Offended feh...
48 posted on 08/13/2010 8:04:46 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"It’s like everyone is hypnotized. Even smart people are asleep, and frankly DETERMINED not to wake up."

Most of the denials and ignorance that we see are from people who work for various levels of government and government-dependent corporates. They like the situation as it is. Any mention of their unemployment to come evokes fear, and sometimes, hostility.

Let them be. Let them fall out of their positions, after the bond collapse commences. We need new business and government leadership. ..."back to the future."


49 posted on 08/13/2010 8:14:44 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Gee another “religion” of peace and love.

Get with the program, Obie, Communists hate us and will try to conqueror or destroy us. So too will Islamic Jihadists.

What about “conqueror” don’t you understand?


50 posted on 08/13/2010 8:15:32 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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