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Poll shows Palin not the clear Tea Party favorite
CNN ^ | 8-13-10 | Alexander Mooney

Posted on 08/14/2010 8:32:41 AM PDT by Bob J

She's appeared at Tea Party rallies across the country and long been considered the movement's de facto leader, but a new CNN poll out Friday suggests Sarah Palin isn't the group's clear favorite for the White House.

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This wll exploe a few heads. Of course CNN will be accused of bias...until they show a poll with Palin in the lead then they will be hailed as the Oracle at Delphi.

Wishful thinkingt makes for poor political strategy.

1 posted on 08/14/2010 8:32:45 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: Bob J

CNN Poll = Big Time BS.


2 posted on 08/14/2010 8:35:27 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Bob J
Mitt Romney comes in No. 1 among Tea Party supporters with 22 percent, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is second with 19 percent...

I would love to know who they polled in this. Mitt and Newt don't even hit the radar of the average citizen, they are beltway choices. I've been to dozens of tea party rallies and have seen scant mention of either of these two. On Conservative sites from here to Campaign for Liberty (Libertarian leaning) to some of the more religious sites, to 2nd amendment group's sites, there is little love for these two, at that, little attention given at all.

3 posted on 08/14/2010 8:37:16 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Bob J

There’s something clearly fishy about this article. I go to a lot of Tea Party events and agree that Palin is not a unanimous choice but I never hear Romney and Gingrich mentioned except disparagingly.


4 posted on 08/14/2010 8:37:19 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: Bob J

Blatant lies. No way in hell Romney and Newt are the Tea Party favs. Once again we see the LSM hijacking a conservative movement and pushing RINOS.


5 posted on 08/14/2010 8:38:34 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Bob J

Is there ANYBODY left who still believes CNN?

I put more credence in Baghdad Bob...


6 posted on 08/14/2010 8:38:36 AM PDT by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: Bob J

wow...they sampled more repubs than RATs


7 posted on 08/14/2010 8:39:14 AM PDT by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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To: Bob J
CNN poll out Friday suggests Sarah Palin isn't the group's clear favorite for the White House.
Gee, could it be because she's not running?

Who's the dunce in this picture?

8 posted on 08/14/2010 8:39:23 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Bob J

It will be Romney or Palin.

Fairly easy choice for a conservative lol.


9 posted on 08/14/2010 8:41:20 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (A loud band of PaulBots, Isolationists, Protectionists, 911Inside Jobnuts, 3rdParty Loud Irrelevants)
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To: Bob J

Oh how they want to shape public opinion. They are praying for another John McLame to run and endorse their candidate at the same time. It’s good to see they are off to an early start this time. They almost let the Maverick slip away early in the race in 08. It was so much work to weed out the qualified candidates.


10 posted on 08/14/2010 8:41:23 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Bob J

I had know idea she was the leader of the movement


11 posted on 08/14/2010 8:41:29 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: Bob J

I don’t really care anymore what CNN says..... but that is just me!!!


12 posted on 08/14/2010 8:42:15 AM PDT by ColdOne
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To: Bob J

Popcorn Haiku

the day is quiet
shocking gun fire alerts us
it’s only popcorn


13 posted on 08/14/2010 8:42:49 AM PDT by donna (Why did John McCain let it get so bad? Let's ask Sarah!)
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To: Bob J
Of course CNN will be accused of bias...

Never! Some things are understood without saying.

14 posted on 08/14/2010 8:42:49 AM PDT by lonestar (Barry is furious the big spill wasn't caused by EXXON...would have nationalized it by now.)
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To: Bob J

Hang on, I am looking at the actual results linked, and CNN is not representing the results correctly. Newt didn’t come in 2nd with 19%, in the most recent poll, he came in third with 15%, Palin came in 2nd with 18% (Romney still leading with 21%)

Page 2 here.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/08/13/rel11d.pdf


15 posted on 08/14/2010 8:42:52 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Bob J
Does the overwhelming number of libtard comments on the orginal post give you a clue that CNN may not exactly be running a scientific poll here?

Remind me again about how many TEA party gatherings that Mitt and Newt have attended.

16 posted on 08/14/2010 8:42:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Bob J
Nobody's head will be exploding, Bob. That's wishful thinking on your part.

Not too many folks around this forum put too much stock in a poll that has Mitt @ #1 and Newt @ #2.

Good effort on your part, though. LOL

17 posted on 08/14/2010 8:43:14 AM PDT by CAluvdubya ("Sarah Palin fights, we cannot spare her."--GonzoGOP)
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To: Bob J

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/08/13/rel11d.pdf


18 posted on 08/14/2010 8:43:37 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Bob J

Romney is left of RINO status. He is who the MSM wants the Republicans to nominate. It’s sort of like when the MSM was saying that Guilliani was the “clear favorite” for the Republican nomination before the 2008 elections, ignoring Fred Thomas who was ahead of him in every poll.

I doubt Romney is a tea party favorite. Palin may have close ties with some, but her ties with McShame will hurt her with many TP’ers.


19 posted on 08/14/2010 8:43:58 AM PDT by Dayman
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To: rintense

See #15- the actual survey results don’t match CNN’s reporting.

Too bad some people still read headlines and trust the MSM instead of digging into the story deeper than the first few lines.


20 posted on 08/14/2010 8:44:02 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Tigerized

“Is there ANYBODY left who still believes CNN?

“I put more credence in Baghdad Bob...”

I’ve heard rumors that Bob J. was Baghdad Bob.


21 posted on 08/14/2010 8:44:10 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: mnehring

Yep. And too bad its a freeper. Sort of.


22 posted on 08/14/2010 8:46:55 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Bob J

CNN seven point margin of error? Wow. CNN loses more respect every day. How it manages it, is beyond me, since they’re all but toast as it is.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Tea Party members do have some suspicions about Sarah, but at this point I don’t see a lot better than her out there either.

Mitt Romney? Newt Gingrich? CNN’s problem is that it doesn’t even know the right questions these days.

Those two have about as much chance of being president as I do, but if there’s a way for the establishment Republican party to manage it, I’ll have to eat those words.

We’ve got a guy like Obama in there, and the best we can come up with is the last three stinky fish in the barrel.


23 posted on 08/14/2010 8:48:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: Bob J
Interesting that only 2% of the sample were active tea partiers, and another 26% were favorable toward the tea party but not active. 21% of the sample was opposed to the tea party. The rest didn't know or didn't care.

Puts a little different slant on things to know the facts and not just read the headline.

24 posted on 08/14/2010 8:50:06 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: rintense

The numbers in CNN’s article are no where in the survey results for the entire year.

The results are repeated a second time on page 6, once again, not matching what CNN reported.

Good grief, this news article doesn’t even try to be accurate. They pulled the numbers out of their a**. You would have to add the sampling error to Newt’s numbers and subtract it from Palin’s numbers to match CNN’s conclusion.


25 posted on 08/14/2010 8:50:33 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Bob J
MSM trying to limit our choice of candidates to losers. Neither Mitt nor Newt can win. Mitt will get bagged by MASScare and his religion; Newt will get nowhere because of his wives. Newt talks the talk, but has never walked the walk. He has some serious flaws and much greater ones than those the MSM object to (and many Repubs) in Sarah--she didn't graduate from an Ivy league univ. and she talks down home. They also hate her popularity.

When was the last time Mitt or Newt filled up a stadium, hall, etc. like Sarah does. Also, note the huge issues they make with Sarah's family like they have never done wth Gore's children on drugs; Mitt's wife's expensive clothes; Newt's aversion to illness in his wives (he has dumped two that became sick), the Kennedy's nastiness even to their own (Ted's widow being pushed out of Ted's house) and on ad naseum.

Never fear, though, when crunch time comes, all Newt's and Mitt's warts will be put under a magnifying glass.

Just like the MSM and "racism", "rich greed", "global warming", "scaring old folks about SS and Medicare if they elect Repubs,--isn't it time people caught on and grow some mental toughness to resist this crap?

vaudine

26 posted on 08/14/2010 8:50:48 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Bob J
Internals... Data
27 posted on 08/14/2010 8:52:36 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: hinckley buzzard

I will say that polling base decimates any value that could be derived from this poll.

2% were active Tea Party members. How about a 98% +/- degree of accuracy.


28 posted on 08/14/2010 8:53:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (UniTea! It's not Rs vs Ds you dimwits. It's Cs vs Ls. Cut the crap & lets build for success.)
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To: Bob J

Nice of you to finally look at the data over 25 posts after you posted the original article and after many others pointed out that they didn’t match CNN’s article?

I remember the days when freepers, especially old timers, would know to look at those things *before* posting an article to make sure it was accurate.

I guess when you have an agenda, facts don’t matter.


29 posted on 08/14/2010 8:54:37 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: CAluvdubya

Actually CNN did a highly structed and scientific poll that use POTA permutation with additional refinement by applying the ZSS correctional factors to achieve a 100% accuracy in polling that is so good that it does not have a margin of error.

POTA = Pulled out of their ASS
ZSS = Zogby special sauce.

:)


30 posted on 08/14/2010 8:56:30 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Bob J

I won’t believe any of this until we have actual declared candidates.

I don’t think Romney is a Tea party fav.


31 posted on 08/14/2010 8:57:43 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Bob J

What is CNN? If it is liberal, who cares what their poll or opinion on right stuff is?


32 posted on 08/14/2010 9:02:52 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Bob J
44. Suppose the 2012 presidential election were being held today. If Barack Obama runs for reelection, are you more likely to vote for Obama, the Democrat, or for the Republican party’s candidate for President?

45. (IF UNSURE:) As of today, do you lean more to Obama, the Democrat, or to a Republican candidate?

QUESTIONS 44 AND 45 COMBINED


                                   Other     No
                   Obama Republican (vol.) opinion
Registered Voters
August 6-10, 2010  45%      50%       3%      1%
March 25-28, 2010  47%      48%       4%      1%
March 19-21, 2010  47%      47%       4%      2%
All Americans
August 6-10, 2010  46%      49%       3%      1%
March 25-28, 2010  48%      47%       4%      1%
March 19-21, 2010  48%      46%       4%      2%

33 posted on 08/14/2010 9:05:41 AM PDT by deport
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To: Bob J
CNN...well, as Rosanna Rosanna Danna used to say, "Never mind..."
34 posted on 08/14/2010 9:09:07 AM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: Bob J

Well bob, we will NEVER get rid of Obamacare with Romney. Hell, he’s the architect of the plan with his disasterous Mascare plan.
Sorry Mitt, can’t vote for a liberal thinker.


35 posted on 08/14/2010 9:09:13 AM PDT by bfree (The revolution is coming - FUBO)
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To: Bob J; rintense

I finally found some numbers that match what CNN reported. The only place the numbers match have nothing to do with affiliations (tea party, libertarian, moderate, etc), education, income, or even location.

The ONLY place those numbers match are in a break-down by category of AGE- they match voters 50 and over. (page 6 of the report)

CNN really had to do some ‘creative’ reporting to make that somehow match what they claim.


36 posted on 08/14/2010 9:10:40 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Bob J

I support Sarah fully.

But if I were to answer a poll question accurately I wouldn’t necessarily say that I would vote for her for sure. It’s way too early for that.

Again, I support Sarah in whatever she wants to do. But we don’t have all the cards on the table yet to determine who to vote for for POTUS.

This poll is meaningless page filler.


37 posted on 08/14/2010 9:11:34 AM PDT by paulycy (Restore Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“I wouldn’t be surprised if the Tea Party members do have some suspicions about Sarah, but at this point I don’t see a lot better than her out there either.”

Agreed. But we still have time, I’m hoping for a star to surface (maybe Bachman?) so we don’t have to rely on all these 2008 retreads with so much baggage.


38 posted on 08/14/2010 9:12:22 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: mnehring

I think the data you cite includes all republicans while the statement about Palin coming in third was among those who identified themsleves as TP members or supporters.


39 posted on 08/14/2010 9:14:17 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: Bob J; EveningStar; mkjessup

Fox News said their polling shows fully 50% of Americans don’t want Palin as Potus. As for Newt and Romney, I don’t think they are going anywhere, except home ;-)


40 posted on 08/14/2010 9:15:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: Bob J

Huh?
Can they tell us which “the group” they polled?


41 posted on 08/14/2010 9:16:30 AM PDT by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: mnehring

mnehring: doing the job other freepers won’t do. Good on ya!


42 posted on 08/14/2010 9:16:35 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Bob J
LOL!

It really doesn't matter how you or the left will attempt to influence the selection of the Republican nominee in 2012, the Tea Parties and conservatives with their eyes wide open can still see through this drivel and in no way will the right enthusiastically support Romney or Gingrich, IMO.

Romney and Gingrich represent the problem with our government today. The Tea Parties do not seem to be inclined to continue the status quo, so if your delusional quest to see a marxist-lite-commie-RINO running for POTUS in 2012 actually is successful, you will be insuring that Obama is not out of office until Jan 2017, or that we will have a RINO POTUS that will be just as destructive, IMO.

Mrs. Palin may or may not be the answer as far as who would be the best candidate for the Republicans in 2012, but Romney and Gingrich are most definitely not. CNN and their marxist brethren in the liberal dominated media will be more than happy to shred Romney or Gingrich in the 2012 campaign, and either would have no chance to win. This is blatantly obvious, IMO.

43 posted on 08/14/2010 9:16:44 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Bob J

I don’t care about the poll, but I think Sarah is doing her country great service right now. She’s a powerful mobilizing force. I don’t think she could do more as president. Let someone else do the dirty work and get politically soiled as president; Sarah can best serve America by continuing to speak, raise funds, and mobilize us.


44 posted on 08/14/2010 9:17:25 AM PDT by ottbmare
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To: Bob J
I think the data ...

Good Lord palindrome, just read the data, they do break down by various affiliation groups and those don't match. As I pointed out in #36, the only place the numbers match CNN's report is by age break down for people 50 and over.

I understand that reading data is hard, but come one, at least try.

I know it is easy to just trust what the media says.. heck, the entire American Idol voting block does just that.. but this is Free Republic.. we are supposed to think here.

45 posted on 08/14/2010 9:17:46 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Bob J; rintense
Fox News said their polling shows fully 50% of Americans don’t want Palin as Potus.

..and 53% of Americans voted for Obama.

46 posted on 08/14/2010 9:19:36 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Bob J
"They're ultimately looking for solutions beyond the rhetoric," says [supposedly Republican consultant Linda] Sanchez. "There is no doubt Palin engages the base, she amplifies their message. But in the long run, it's going to be who has the best solutions...

Here's an idea: let's stop looking to government for solutions! My guess is, most Tea Partiers have already taken that step. It's the "Republican consultants" (especially ones found in a CNN reporter's Rolodex) who need to forget all about "solutions to the nation's problems" and instead remember "slowing down, shutting up, and getting out of the way."

That said, I find it hard to believe that Mister Massachusetts Health Care Reform will long remain at the top of these polls. Right now he's the anti-Obama in the sense that he is a competent human being with actual leadership and management experience... people will indeed be looking for that in 2012. But he isn't going to be the only one out there with a resume. It's too early to say which other candidates might prove more acceptable in terms of "getting it" about Stop Growing the Damned Government! Quit trying to find "solutions" to our "problems." It's not the government's job to fix our problems! It's our job. What we need the government to do is get out of the way.

And as much as I enjoy Sarah Palin, I don't think the country will want to replace the guy who didn't finish his first term in the Senate with the woman who didn't finish her first term in the statehouse. The country's going to be looking for somebody who's been around the block a few times, and who's been out after dark. I'm sorry, but Sarah's not there yet.


47 posted on 08/14/2010 9:20:25 AM PDT by Nick Danger (Pin the fail on the donkey)
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To: DoughtyOne; Bob J; mkjessup; EveningStar; All

” We’ve got a guy like Obama in there, and the best we can come up with is the last three stinky fish in the barrel. “

I agree. It occured to me that we may have a problem running anyone worth a damn. Have you considered what a new POTUS will inherit ? And unless Obama is removed from office, he will do untold damage between now and then.


48 posted on 08/14/2010 9:22:10 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: ottbmare

Amen!!


49 posted on 08/14/2010 9:23:49 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: rbmillerjr
"It will be Romney or Palin."


God, I hope not! Conservatives need to do better than that.
50 posted on 08/14/2010 9:24:09 AM PDT by rob777
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