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Citizens by 'birthright'
NY Post ^ | August 15, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 08/15/2010 3:33:41 AM PDT by Scanian

Adopted in 1868, the 14th Amendment defined citizenship — making it clear that former slaves and their descendents were American citizens. But part of that amendment, that everyone “born in” the US becomes a citizen, has become controversial during the immigration debate, with Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and others calling for hearings on whether to repeal or revise the language.

A Pew survey out this week notes that illegal immigrants who have children here (who then become insta-citizens) represent a not-insignificant portion of new births. Of the 4.3 million babies born in 2008, 340,000 were to illegal immigrants. The breakdown:

US-born parents: 76%

Legal immigrant parents; 16%

Illegal immigrant parents: 8%

Moreover, that birth rate is in disproportion to illegal immigration in general. Illegal immigrants represent only 4% of the adult population — suggesting they have a higher fertility rate or simply a desire to have children here in the US for citizenship purposes.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; anchorbabies; mccain; publicopinion

1 posted on 08/15/2010 3:33:43 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Our minds have been so warped by liberal thought that permeates our culture, in schools and media outlets, that we believe the most basic functions applied by the state to preserve a nation(control of borders, penalizing illegal immigrants) are seen as racism, bigotry and hate.


2 posted on 08/15/2010 3:38:27 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Fanaticism is described as redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim."-G. Santayana)
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To: Scanian

bump


3 posted on 08/15/2010 3:43:36 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: Scanian
But part of that amendment, that everyone “born in” the US becomes a citizen, That is NOT how the Amendment was first meant.
4 posted on 08/15/2010 3:51:46 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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It’s not even what it SAYS, let alone what it means. Those words “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” aren’t there just to fill out the paragraph.

I am amazed and disgusted at the venality, duplicity, and outright willful stupidity of those who say that the 14th Amendment confers citizenship on all persons born in the United States. It does no such thing - and the Supreme Court has ever ruled that it does.


5 posted on 08/15/2010 4:05:33 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine

ooops! That’s “NEVER”.


6 posted on 08/15/2010 4:06:06 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine

“It’s not even what it SAYS, let alone what it means. Those words “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” aren’t there just to fill out the paragraph.”

Since when do those who want to “fundamentally change” the U.S. and it’s history give a crap about about what anything actually says and means? To most of these people the Ten Commandments are merely suggested guidelines open to personal interpretation.


7 posted on 08/15/2010 4:22:42 AM PDT by Radio Free American? (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Our minds have been so warped by liberal thought that permeates our culture, in schools and media outlets, that we believe the most basic functions applied by the state to preserve a nation(control of borders, penalizing illegal immigrants) are seen as racism, bigotry and hate.


Fox News has adopted this mantra...especially the Brett Baier program and their panelists....the pro-Illegal/Anti-American mentality is everywhere.

And I will go postal next time I hear: “comprehensive immigration reform”......all thinking people know that is Illegal Alien Amnesty


8 posted on 08/15/2010 4:35:23 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com. You either voting for JD, or voting for the Liberal...)
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To: Darkwolf377
Our minds have been so warped by liberal thought that permeates our culture, in schools and media outlets, that we believe the most basic functions applied by the state to preserve a nation(control of borders, penalizing illegal immigrants) are seen as racism, bigotry and hate.

This has got to end or we will soon be a thirld world nation.

9 posted on 08/15/2010 4:35:55 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
And I will go postal next time I hear: “comprehensive immigration reform”......all thinking people know that is Illegal Alien Amnesty

Yes, you are right. One thing that must end it the strangle hold the mainstream media has on the truth. They are all skilled propagandists at work.

10 posted on 08/15/2010 4:39:22 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie
“This has got to end or we will soon be a thirld world nation.”

Yeah, for sure. The 14th amendment is being exploited by those seeking a method (anchor babies) of enabling their ability to gain legal residence in the U.S. So, while the original writing of the 14th was good and honorable because it's now being wrongly exploited it has to be rewritten - asap.

11 posted on 08/15/2010 4:56:52 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: John Valentine

I agree. It is misleading to say the 14th amendment says all people born are citizens. They are most certainly not.


12 posted on 08/15/2010 5:20:16 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Scanian

I think the current 14th Amendment debate is a RINO scam, currently being fueled by Graham, who isn’t running for office, and played off of by McCain and other half-witted, pro-amnesty losers who think kowtowing to illegals will be the salvation of the Republican Party, all evidence to the contrary. Don’t let these bums confuse the issue, either by suggesting we should change the 14th Amendment, or by saying we shouldn’t change the 14th Amendment. It is all a dodge, an obfuscation of of the issue. I can see these RINO scumbags in a backroom meeting choosing who should suggest changing the 14th Amendment, and who should say we shouldn’t. Meanwhile, liberals are falling out of their chairs with laughter while Republicans fire up another dog and pony show. It’s a win/win for them. Don’t get dragged into the 14th Amendment debate. Keep reminding people that anchor babies are about policy interpretations, not Constitutional law. Don’t let the RINOs slip amnesty in through the back door while misdirecting our attention.


13 posted on 08/15/2010 5:44:53 AM PDT by pallis
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