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8 dead, 12 wounded as truck plows into crowd at off-road race in Southern California desert
Foxnews.com ^ | August 15, 2010 | AP Radio correspondent Shirley Smith

Posted on 08/15/2010 7:37:39 AM PDT by Yogafist

The crash came shortly after the start of the California 200, a Saturday evening race in the Mojave Desert, said San Bernardino County sheriff's spokeswoman Cindy Bachman.

Bachman said eight people died and 12 were injured, several of them seriously. Seven ambulances and 10 emergency aircraft responded to the scene. Most of the injured were airlifted from the area to Loma Linda University Medical Center or St. Mary's Medical Center

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
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1 posted on 08/15/2010 7:37:40 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: Yogafist

People standing close to racing vehicles are really foolish. Odd title, using the word ‘wounded’ instead of ‘injured’


3 posted on 08/15/2010 7:46:06 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Yogafist

The terrible heart ache that is taking place this morning in so many that lost loved ones. And the driver of the car, you have to feel for him also. The anquish he must feel even though it was not his fault.


4 posted on 08/15/2010 7:48:02 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: Right Brother
People standing close to racing vehicles are really foolish. Odd title, using the word ‘wounded’ instead of ‘injured’

Yes, that is interesting. Good catch.

5 posted on 08/15/2010 7:48:55 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: Right Brother

They use the word “wounded” instead of “injured” because those off-road trucks are at war with the spectators.


6 posted on 08/15/2010 7:52:03 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Yogafist

There is a movie called Dust To Glory that chronicles the baja 1000 race where you will see crowds 10 thick right up along parts of the race course with race cars speeding by. One car loses control, and it’s disaster. You are an idiot to stand near a race course unprotected.


7 posted on 08/15/2010 7:53:51 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It’s like the evil suv’s that kill people. They think of them as a weapon I guess.


8 posted on 08/15/2010 7:55:31 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon

I couldn’t remember the name of that movie, thanks. One of the trucks even hits a motorhome on the side of the track. And there is another point where they show the organizers trying to get medical help to someone hit by a vehicle, later they say he died. I have never quite understood why they let people stand in the path momentum will carry the vehicle if there is a problem.


9 posted on 08/15/2010 7:58:19 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: ecomcon

It’s men who are driving those trucks. That automatically renders those types of vehicles as evil. Same with guns, but now more and more women are using and carrying them.

Since a man was driving this pickup truck this accident was really intentional from the writer’s perspective. If it had been a woman behind the wheel you would have never seen that word “wounded” brought up.


10 posted on 08/15/2010 8:00:18 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Yogafist
"The crowd was standing within 10 feet of the track with no guard rails separating them from the speeding vehicles.

"There were no barriers at all," Jeff Talbott, inland division chief for the California Highway Patrol, told the Riverside Press-Enterprise."


This was written to gin up more support for more regulations on the sport.

"He said that the driver, who wasn't named, was forced to run from the scene when the crowd grew unruly and some began throwing rocks at him. It was not clear why he lost control of the truck."

Here are Leftists blaming the driver for them standing too close to the track like a bunch dumba$$e$.

The CHP does not normally investigate crashes at organized races, but took the lead on this probe because of its scope and had set up a command center at the starting line of the race.

They don't have any jurisdiction but they decided to get involved anyway.
11 posted on 08/15/2010 8:08:35 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: wampanoag

Why?
This race has been going on for some time and the people in the crowd knew the risks. If they didn’t, they were ignorant of the event.

You can’t put guardrails across the desert.


12 posted on 08/15/2010 8:26:45 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"There were no barriers at all," Jeff Talbott, inland division chief for the California Highway Patrol, told the Riverside Press-Enterprise."

Hey chief - it's an off road race. Of course there are no barriers, no real prepared track, grandstands, etc. I work a similar annual off-road rally type race. Yes, it is dangerous, that is part of the entertainment/thrill value for the spectators. We keep the spectators out of the most dangerous parts - outside of corners (think understeer), inside "late" in the corners (think oversteer). We also have to remind them to stay off the course at all times (ie. not cross it) - yes, some are that stupid. Did I mention they allow alcohol at this event? (I'm not sure that's a good idea) Remind them to stay hydrated, no fires, etc. We keep it as fun and safe as possible, but watching someone roar by relatively close and fast is a big part of the appeal. It cannot be made absolutely safe, period. You can only manage risk. If spectators want to be safe - watch it on TV or from 50 yds back...

13 posted on 08/15/2010 8:29:12 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Yogafist

I’d be willing to bet that the closer people were standing next to the track, would be in direct proportion to the amount of alcohol they consumed.


14 posted on 08/15/2010 8:37:33 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Yogafist

Mama told me not to play near the road for a reason.


15 posted on 08/15/2010 8:42:53 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Right Brother

Those people over in Europe that go to road races are the same way, lining both sides of the roads on turns. I don’t know if people like this are fearless or just plain stupid.


17 posted on 08/15/2010 9:10:03 AM PDT by bullcricker
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To: Jack Hydrazine

If a woman was driving it would have been written “the vehicle drove into the crowd” or “lost control of the vehicle as it went into the crowd”...like it has a mind of it’s own...


18 posted on 08/15/2010 9:57:27 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: ecomcon

“You are an idiot to stand near a race course unprotected.”

If you’re into that safety shit don’t do it but don’t inflict your live safe crap on anyone else!


19 posted on 08/15/2010 10:12:17 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

I ushered at Daytone, 1969 My biggest job was keeping people off the fence between the seats and the track. And they’d put their hands in the fence to boot.


20 posted on 08/15/2010 10:13:36 AM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: whence911

........and also at Daytona. LOL.


21 posted on 08/15/2010 10:13:58 AM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: whence911

If I or anyone else wants to risk their lives under any conditions it’s none of yours or anyone elses god damned business!

I’ve risked my life consistantly for the sake of time and been hurt numerous times and if the next time I get killed it’s no ones god damned business or concern!!!!


22 posted on 08/15/2010 10:21:24 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: wampanoag

I’d be willing to bet ZERO criminal liability as long as the drivers weren’t drunk or stoned.

This race was licensed and the people watching willingly took the risk. There was no expectation of safety for anybody standing alongside the trail (not “track”). Do you think those people paid to attend this event?

As for civil liability, people sue all the time for their own reckless behavior.


23 posted on 08/15/2010 1:21:04 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: ecomcon

Happens during the Paris-Dakkar ralley, too.

People take their own risks.


24 posted on 08/15/2010 1:22:12 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Racing is dangerous, but particularly dangerous on streets.

Because of the fact that so much stuff is filmed now, that when people get injured the government pays for their treatment, and because we've pretty much accepted that the government has the right to regulate everything, we've become a much more risk averse society.

Anybody else remember the figure eight races, where the contestants played chicken at the intersection?

25 posted on 08/15/2010 1:29:49 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: dalereed
If you’re into that safety shit don’t do it but don’t inflict your live safe crap on anyone else!

Whoa, ease up. I've run off road for many years. I'm not against racing at all, people take risks all the time. But I know what happens when a vehicle gets sideways. Nothing you can do, physics takes over. Just ask a racer if they would stand on the shoulder of a 2 lane dirt road as pro trucks try to pass at 80 mph.

I'm not advocating anything or saying they should make rules, etc. I am saying anyone is a fool to stand up close and unprotected. I am also saying that the safety nazi lawyers are going to be all over this big time, and they are the ones who are going to inflict all the live safe crap on everyone else.

26 posted on 08/15/2010 5:39:17 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: dalereed
I'm sensing a full moon tonight.

When you build your race track and sell tickets, you can stand in the middle of the track for all I care. And your customers too.

When you work for someone else you do the job or walk away. I did the job I was hired to do, keep idiots like you off the fence so they wouldn't lose a limb and then sue the race track.

Sleep it off before you reply Einstein.

27 posted on 08/15/2010 6:07:53 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: whence911

Go to hell!

I’ll risk my life when and where i please and no one is going to stop me!


28 posted on 08/15/2010 6:10:53 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

please go ahead, it will raise the average IQ


29 posted on 08/15/2010 7:15:31 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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