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AP-GfK Poll: Independent voters sour on Democrats
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100815/ap_on_el_ge/us_ap_poll_defecting_independents ^

Posted on 08/15/2010 10:09:43 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

WASHINGTON – Independents who embraced President Barack Obama's call for change in 2008 are ready for a shift again, and that's worrisome news for Democrats.

Only 32 percent of those citing no allegiance to either major party say they want Democrats to keep control of Congress in this November's elections, according to combined results of recent Associated Press-GfK polls. That's way down from the 52 percent of independents who backed Obama over Republican Sen. John McCain two years ago, and the 49 percent to 41 percent edge by which they preferred Democratic candidates for the House in that election, according to exit polls of voters.

Independents voice especially strong concerns about the economy, with 9 in 10 calling it a top problem and no other issue coming close, the analysis of the AP-GfK polls shows. While Democrats and Republicans rank the economy the No. 1 problem in similar numbers, they are nearly as worried about their No. 2 issues, health care for Democrats and terrorism for Republicans.

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9 in 10 call it a top problem, yet the obamas are on their 5th vacation this summer and Michelle jetted over to Spain.

Talk about OUT OF TOUCH!

1 posted on 08/15/2010 10:09:47 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

it=the economy


2 posted on 08/15/2010 10:10:21 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Pic taken Aug 14, 2010.....yeah, he feels our pain/sarc


3 posted on 08/15/2010 10:11:14 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: Red in Blue PA

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08R4aPh3YK4Bo/x610.jpg


4 posted on 08/15/2010 10:16:13 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Great. They guys who gave us Obama are now unhappy with him. Maybe they should not be running the country.


5 posted on 08/15/2010 10:17:16 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Red in Blue PA

You see, folks, elections do matter. In November, 2008, you voted to destroy America by electing a man that hates America POTUS (Obama). Now, upcoming in November, 2010 you have the opportunity to totally destroy the Democrat “traitor” Party, and with it, anti-American, Muslim, POTUS Barack Hussein Obama!!!


6 posted on 08/15/2010 10:17:26 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Red in Blue PA

2/3rds of the Indies say not just NO but Hell No!!


7 posted on 08/15/2010 10:20:48 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

From what I’ve seen of this poll, they usally lean left. If they are this skewed, the Dems are going to be in a world of hurt come November.


8 posted on 08/15/2010 10:37:13 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Brilliant
Great. They guys who gave us Obama are now unhappy with him. Maybe they should not be running the country.

I f'n despise so-called "independents".

They are the least informed voter and yet, they are the ones who decide elections.

"Vote for the person not the party", my ass.

9 posted on 08/15/2010 10:42:33 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: I still care
They've got Obama's approval rating at 49%, which is 7 points higher than Gallup.

Probably all of the polls inflate Obama's popularity because of the "Bradley effect" (where whites are more likely to say that they are supportive of a black candidate or official than they really are, because they don't want to be seen as a racist by the polltaker).

10 posted on 08/15/2010 10:46:09 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

Sour enough not to vote third party? ;’) Thanks Red in Blue PA.


11 posted on 08/15/2010 10:51:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Do we ever get tired of news stories that paint everything based on whether it is good for Democrats? As if the one legitimate worldview is whatever benefits the Democrats?


12 posted on 08/15/2010 10:52:43 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
I f'n despise so-called "independents".

They are the least informed voter and yet, they are the ones who decide elections.

"Vote for the person not the party", my ass.

I concur.

At least we know where those on the Left stand, as it's an ideological struggle, and we can plan accordingly.

But when it comes to dealing with Independents, quite often it boils down to a popularity contest.

13 posted on 08/15/2010 11:14:47 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Pic taken Aug 14, 2010.....yeah, he feels our pain/sarc

Did TOTUS show up on the gulf (sic) coarse?
14 posted on 08/15/2010 11:29:43 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Red in Blue PA

He is a such an islmo POS. Destroying the economy. Destroying America.


15 posted on 08/15/2010 11:40:43 AM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats are the party of Islam.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

You know, of course, that the US Treasury/Mint is the font of all their spending? I mean, none of us can afford vacations, or parties, or keeping our homes, but the Osama family seems to be doing just fine on our taxes.

As I was skimming today’s news on FR, a thought hit me that has yet to leave: WHAT IF: The First and Second Daughters refused Shariah, became Christian, and disowned their nasty, lying parents?

I know: A fool’s dream, but still ~ stranger things have happened. I mean, we have a Muslim in the White House, and he’s not even an American!


16 posted on 08/15/2010 11:51:02 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If you think health care is expensive now, wait till it's free.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I had a polltaker call me the other day.

It was the DNC (they made no bones about it).

Did you vote for obama? Yes

Do you approve of such and such law No

Who will you vote for in the election - I named the Democrat

Do you like the AZ law Yes

Lying doesn’t come easy to me, but hey, they called me.


17 posted on 08/15/2010 11:57:48 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Monkey Face
WHAT IF: The First and Second Daughters refused Shariah, became Christian, and disowned their nasty, lying parents?

In disputes over child custody, sharia recognizes the absoluteness of a father's ownership if the child is over seven years old." Furthermore, in several documented cases, English Muslim women who were victims of domestic abuse and being judged under sharia law were "told to halt police investigations and continue with marriage peacefully."
18 posted on 08/15/2010 12:06:42 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If Republicans don’t stop the radical speech and hate, they’ll lose these independents to Dems!

We need the big tent!

/sarc


19 posted on 08/15/2010 12:38:17 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Cheerio; Monkey Face

Before that issue can arise, the Obamas would need to openly embrace Islam and Sharia.

People are extrapolating that they are Muslims at heart while only pretending Christianity - albeit “Black Liberation Theology Christianity”...an oxymoron for sure.

But the Obamas have never indicated the truth of what others are extrapolating about them. Therefore, it is premature to project that their daughters might reject the religion and laws espoused by their parents.

Now, when Michelle my belle and Melia and Sasha start appearing in full Burkas and the whole family prostrates themselves towards Mecca 5 times/day you’ve got your predicate.

Just sayin’...


20 posted on 08/15/2010 12:48:17 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck -)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Indies think they’re superior to people who actually have political convictions, and the media suck (up to) them constantly.


21 posted on 08/15/2010 1:06:14 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Heckuva job, Brownie!.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Here’s hoping they STAY clueless, right up to the elections of 2012!!


22 posted on 08/15/2010 1:10:59 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Red in Blue PA

Yeah he’s not that far removed from what most Americans are going through.

(I’m so disgusted.)


23 posted on 08/15/2010 1:13:07 PM PDT by Nickname
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To: Cheerio

HAH! Were I one of them, I would kick over the traces and make my own way in life. Steal an identy, or, barring that, change my hair color, my eye color, my weight, my entire demographics, and I would cease to be “known.”

It CAN be done, if one is determined. And with enough money, I could be anywhere in the world. I’m only limited by fear.


24 posted on 08/15/2010 1:38:52 PM PDT by Monkey Face (If you think health care is expensive now, wait till it's free.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The number who say they want Dems to retain control is 10 points smaller than the number who supported the GOP in the awful 2008 election. That’s huge.


25 posted on 08/15/2010 1:40:23 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: NormsRevenge

Indies are as arrogant as Democrats; they just hold their nose when they vote for crap.


26 posted on 08/15/2010 1:42:03 PM PDT by comps4spice (Can we deport Congress?)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I don’t think the Bradley effect did much in the 2008 election. The polls were pretty accurate.

I doubt it has much of an impact this time.


27 posted on 08/15/2010 1:43:08 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: comps4spice
Indies are as arrogant as Democrats; they just hold their nose when they vote for crap.

Funny, considering who the Republicans nominated last time.

28 posted on 08/15/2010 1:44:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (What does the LORD require of you but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God?)
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To: I still care

Good job, quick thinking, too.


29 posted on 08/15/2010 1:47:29 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Nickname

We had to take a staycation this year due to pay cuts etc. While I have taken a job that pays more, much of that increase will go to pay off emergency debts incurred over time.

Then he is off for one vacation after another. Yeah, he feels our pain. :)


30 posted on 08/15/2010 1:48:01 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: txrangerette

This is America, and Obama needs to put forth an Image. He would not openly insist on his wife and daughters embracing Sharia because of the stigma it would put on his term in the White House.

Remember: Satan will tell 1,000 truths to get a person to believe ONE lie.

Don’t underestimate Obama. He IS a Muslim, and Michelle HAD to convert in order to make sure he was “believeable.” This means his daughters are Muslim, which also means they will be married to Muslim men. They are not often seen in photos in public and Michelle is visible only when it is convenient for HER HUSBAND.

Who is to say that Osama has no prayer rug in the bedroom or another room of the private quarters? Who is to say that his disappearances from the Oval Office at certain times of the day are not for Prayers for the Faithful?

Think about it. Just because we haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

Wake up. This isn’t a movie.


31 posted on 08/15/2010 2:01:31 PM PDT by Monkey Face (If you think health care is expensive now, wait till it's free.)
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To: rwfromkansas; Verginius Rufus

The Bradley effect would involve opposition due to race. The change in Obama’s support is not due to race, since his race has not changed.


32 posted on 08/15/2010 2:04:38 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Red in Blue PA

33 posted on 08/15/2010 2:06:03 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I hope those who were duped now understand how stupid they were.

And I hope they feel GUILTY about how they damaged America because of their willful ignorance.

34 posted on 08/15/2010 2:08:53 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

If they voted for Zero, they have no conscience, and therefore, can feel no guilt. Don’t assign human behavior to non-humans.


35 posted on 08/15/2010 2:12:25 PM PDT by Monkey Face (If you think health care is expensive now, wait till it's free.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

LOL. Obama looks like a blind man in that pic. How utterly fitting.


36 posted on 08/15/2010 3:54:35 PM PDT by Obadiah (I can see November from my house!)
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To: I still care
From what I’ve seen of this poll, they usally lean left. If they are this skewed, the Dems are going to be in a world of hurt come November.

Great. Hence, the GOP will feed us the same old pablum of RINO crap, because they can, and we end up exactly no where better off...

DO NOT BECOME COMPLACENT

Elect conservatives in the primaries. Support conservatives in the election. If we sit on our butts thinking everything is rosy, we'll get what we got before... remember? ... both houses of congress, the white house and a balanced scotus, to NO AVAIL, and Juan McCain as the standard bearer to combat abject socialism? WTH?

The fight has just begun. It is time to give the Lindsay Graham mentality a thorough flushing. This is no time for a break... Washington NEEDS AN ENEMA!

37 posted on 08/15/2010 3:56:10 PM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Vote for the person... pffft. More like, vote for the last TV commercial that they liked.


38 posted on 08/15/2010 3:56:26 PM PDT by Obadiah (I can see November from my house!)
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To: OrangeHoof

Thank you! Someone else noticed that. Republicans are always painted with the cynical raw politics brush by the corrupt MSM, and Democrats are always reffered to as what’s in their best interest, or in a manner of “helpful advice” style. Plainly, to Journolists they are writting about the home team and Republicans are the evil opponent always to be viewed as illigitimate.


39 posted on 08/15/2010 4:00:18 PM PDT by Obadiah (I can see November from my house!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Michelle Obama with her daughter Sasha and friends in Ronda, Spain.

The Moochelle luxury vacation in Spain really, really, really ticked people off. It was as if the cast of "Good Times" traveled to one of the most expensive resorts in the world and charged the bill to your Visa card. Voters were not happy.

But again, I don't understand these "Independents" who are so stupid that they actually drank the urine in a cup called "Hope and Change" just two years ago. Are these people really that delusional? Really?

40 posted on 08/15/2010 6:02:28 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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Not so. A lot of people with consciences voted for him because they were woefully and willfully ignorant, and are experiencing guilt.

Hyperbole is not our friend.

41 posted on 08/15/2010 6:08:58 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Obadiah

Metaphorically, there are few more blind than obama.


42 posted on 08/15/2010 6:33:55 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: rwfromkansas
The number who say they want Dems to retain control is 10 points smaller than the number who supported the GOP in the awful 2008 election. That’s huge.

Throwing the Democrats in (not Huge) gigantic numbers will send an important message to the Republicans as well as the Democrats that survive. If it's big enough they will not just be Democrat light and come up with a real plan and quit trying to destroy the nation. Maybe even do something about Obama (well we can hope anyway).

43 posted on 08/15/2010 9:07:02 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: Zeppelin

Most of the independent voters are moderates... You know they don’t usually know where they stand on the issues! They are the ones who have no convictions and can be swayed to vote either way depending on the way the winds blowing!


44 posted on 08/16/2010 12:31:12 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Zeppelin; Tex-Con-Man
I f'n despise so-called "independents". They are the least informed voter and yet, they are the ones who decide elections. "Vote for the person not the party", my ass.

We registered as Independents in Arizona this year. Despite all of the border talk, the state GOP went out of it's way to have an open primary to get leftist support for john mccain over JD Hayworth. If it had been a close primary, I believe Hayworth would win it. Since there's no consequence for being an Independent, I can still request a Republican ballot, which we both have, there's no reason to maintain any affiliation with the idiots running the state party willing to sell out to Juan "Open that border" mccain. He may have changed his tune, but he's still dancing the same dance.

Makes me sick...

I will vote for the person I see as the most conservative. If you want to complain in this state, complain to the Arizona GOP for robbing us all of our votes that stand to be canceled out by liberal mccain crossovers.

Independent standing doesn't have the same significance from state to state. I all depends on your local GOP. We have a decent governor who seems to be doing her job and we'll support her. I won't be compelled to support mccain for any reason.

45 posted on 08/16/2010 4:35:15 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Red in Blue PA
A few interesting observations from this article:

Independents seem to be single-issue voters.

Multi-issue voters seem to affiliate with a party.

Democrats rate health care as almost as important an issue as the economy. Why is healthcare even an issue? Didn't Obamacare solve the healthcare problem?

46 posted on 08/16/2010 4:55:47 AM PDT by magellan
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To: Caipirabob
There is, of course, no resemblance between the idiotic approach to voting that I was describing, and a philosophical conservative using party affiliation as a strategy to further the conservative agenda.

That is comparing apples to grenades.

The “independents” that I loathe are the ones who want to declare the moral high ground by hovering above the philosophical fray. They embrace a more “intellectual” approach...which is how we end up with “geniuses” like Obama, and a “man of the people” like John Edwards.

These "independents" are easily duped, and the rest of us have to suffer for their stupidity.

47 posted on 08/16/2010 8:58:14 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: SkyPilot
Socialist Wardrobe malfunction?.....
48 posted on 08/16/2010 9:40:42 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Verginius Rufus

The recent Gallup poll shows a 7 point GOP advantage on the generic congressional ballot.

But then read the fine print.

That is among REGISTERED voters.

The real GOP advantage as of today? Probably 12 points or so.

Which points to, probably, a 100 seat swing.

I’m not sure what could change this for the D’s, but if the election were next week, they would get slapped worse than 94. Too bad the Senate is more of a reach than it was in 94 or I’d say GOP would take Senate easy.

BUT...all that said...on Nov. 2, when the Dems lose the House, the Obama agenda stops.

Obviously the GOP has a hard time with its own agenda. But that’s ok. Even an incompetent, not truly conservative GOP can stop the Obama agenda.

That CAN happen, and it WILL happen.


49 posted on 08/16/2010 11:37:40 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude
It's a little early to take the gains for granted. "Don't prepare the stew while the rabbit is still in the forest."

I hope the Republicans regain at least the House, and would be happy if they regained the Senate too, but let's hope they know how to make use of a victory. Sometimes they are too afraid of their own shadows to figure out what to do.

50 posted on 08/16/2010 11:54:14 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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