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The Two Americas: Those For and Against the Ground Zero Mosque
YBH.com ^ | 8/15/10 AEST

Posted on 08/15/2010 3:32:11 PM PDT by dselig

In the end, John Edwards was right. There are two Americas, though not based on Mr. Edward’s fairy tale of GOP rich and liberal poor. Those divisions of course exist, but the richest among us tend to belong to Mr. Edwards own party. The real dividing line in this country is: those that are for an Islamic Mosque and cultural center in the shadow of Ground Zero, and those that are against it.

All polls show that the majority of this country falls into the latter category. Not surprisingly, President-out-of-touch Obama is for the mosque.

From health care, to economic policy, to the Ground Zero mosque, President Obama cares not for the will of the American public. The President’s historic election offered so much hope. That image is in shambles. The worst part? Obama could care less what the majority of Americans think. To paraphrase a leftist commenter on a leftist blog I read last night: “Why should we care what the majority of the American public thinks, they elected George W. Bush twice.” That sentence could have been written by Barack Obama himself.

To borrow a phrase from Mr. Out-of-Touch, let me be clear, American Muslims have the right to build mosques wherever they can get the permits for them. What galls most Americans is the insensitivity of the left and Muslims to the fallen of 9/11. The developers of the mosque harp on constantly about how the cultural center will lead to greater understanding between cultures.

I ask respectfully, what has Islam as a whole done to shed itself from the hold of its radical members? Where are the throngs of moderate Muslims protesting against terrorism? You haven’t seen them on CNN? Neither have I, or anyone else. Crickets from over a billion moderate Muslims does not equate to being against terrorism.

By building the mosque near Ground Zero, the proponents of Islam in America are causing further division. By backing the faith of his childhood (at least culturally) over the will of the American public, Barack Obama is showing his true colors: those of a complete ideologue. Obama rules this country only for the narrow interests of himself and his closest supporters.

It is hard to see a more harmonious America at the end of Mr. Obama’s reign. But I digress.

To the New York mosque-eteers. Move the mosque. Show that Islam is actually capable of sensitivity to those around it. In the end, moving (or at least delaying until Ground Zero is re-built) the mosque would be a real first step toward improving U.S./Islamic relations.


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1 posted on 08/15/2010 3:32:15 PM PDT by dselig
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To: dselig
TITLE FIX

The Two Americas: Those For and Against the Ground Zero Barack Hussein Obama Mosque at Ground Zero


2 posted on 08/15/2010 3:38:14 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: dselig
The President’s historic election offered so much hope.

Not to anyone who took a few moments to investigate his background.

3 posted on 08/15/2010 3:38:19 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: dselig

There are two Americas indeed: the pro-America and the anti-America.
Obama is the leader of the latter.


4 posted on 08/15/2010 3:41:14 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: dselig

>Show that Islam is actually capable of sensitivity to those around it.<

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Shall we go back to the 6th century and start searching throughout history?

We still don’t get it, do we?


5 posted on 08/15/2010 3:41:17 PM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: dselig

70% of the people are AGAINST it, recent poll shows.


6 posted on 08/15/2010 3:41:38 PM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: dselig

Hardly two Americas, it isn’t as if the numbers are 50/50 split. 70% or better of Americans don’t want the mosque built at ground zero. These a**hats try to make it sound as it if is an even split, the lying POS.


7 posted on 08/15/2010 3:41:45 PM PDT by calex59
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To: dselig

They’ve had nine years to rationalize away 9-11 and really believe that if we’re just NICE to them, they’ll just be awed by our bending over for them and LOVE us!


8 posted on 08/15/2010 3:42:18 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Fanaticism is described as redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim."-G. Santayana)
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To: dselig
It is hard to see a more harmonious America at the end of Mr. Obama’s reign

I will be surprised if we don't see all out war in the streets in the next few years.

9 posted on 08/15/2010 3:42:25 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: citizencon


10 posted on 08/15/2010 3:43:43 PM PDT by dselig
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To: dselig
To the New York mosque-eteers. Move the mosque. Show that Islam is actually capable of sensitivity to those around it. In the end, moving (or at least delaying until Ground Zero is re-built) the mosque would be a real first step toward improving U.S./Islamic relations.

Just silly.

Islam is more than a religion. It is a system of government and courts that cannot exist in the same country with our Constitution.

Do Americans believe Western Civilization is better than Islam or not?

11 posted on 08/15/2010 3:43:50 PM PDT by donna ( I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth. - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: dselig
The President’s historic election offered so much hope.

Got that far and knew I had just wasted a minute of my life.

But, who knows, maybe the scales are coming off some blind eyes.

12 posted on 08/15/2010 3:44:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (What does the LORD require of you but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God?)
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To: dselig

Just walked in on the nbc Hamster tootheth White House correspondent claiming (His thoughts?) that Americans can not complain of Christian Missionaries being murdered in Muslim countries due to americans attitude against the Cordoba Mosque at WTC site.

How’s that for propaganda?


13 posted on 08/15/2010 3:46:19 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: dselig
I have to laugh at how writers ignore the Obama pattern of treason, disregard of the Constitution and its conventions, and the dictatorial approach to both domestic issues and to international issues. The Jews are out, Palestinians are in. We snuggle up to Pakistan, reject India. Islam is a religion that founded America, Christianity, whats that?

It goes on and on, this pattern of provocation and disrespect.Obama wants America to rise up and polarize itself, in order to give his movement unity and lock step. He is cast straight from the fascist molds of Europe IMHO. His seeming erratic conduct has a specific goal, and the sooner writers like this understand that,the better.

This article is out to lunch, wool gathering.

14 posted on 08/15/2010 3:48:33 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: dselig
“The President’s historic election offered so much hope.”

HUH????? he is a fake a fraud a Damn cheat and a Liar! a No records an invention by Soros and the Scum that hate us. any-school kid could give a speech written by 350 writers and spoon fed Via Teleprompters there needs to be an investigation and a lot of People Jailed for this treasonous crime perpetrated on the American people!

15 posted on 08/15/2010 3:50:17 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: All

1 America, 1 Mosque, 1 911 - Background Links:

Re Mosque - Discussion Thread and Research
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408932/posts

Re 911: Memorial Page and Research
http://www.truthusa.com/911.html


16 posted on 08/15/2010 3:51:55 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: donna

“To the New York mosque-eteers. Move the mosque. Show that Islam is actually capable of sensitivity to those around it. In the end, moving (or at least delaying until Ground Zero is re-built) the mosque would be a real first step toward improving U.S./Islamic relations.

Just silly.

Islam is more than a religion. It is a system of government and courts that cannot exist in the same country with our Constitution.

Do Americans believe Western Civilization is better than Islam or not?”

Exactly!! Nice post thank you for that.


17 posted on 08/15/2010 3:52:41 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: dselig

“It is hard to see a more harmonious America at the end of Mr. Obama’s reign.”

Au contrar, at least 80% of the country will be unified
is seeing it doesn’t happen again.


18 posted on 08/15/2010 3:55:39 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: All

ON THE INTERNET:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2570370/posts

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NOTE The following text is a quote:

www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/08/13/remarks-president-iftar-dinner

Home • Briefing Room • Speeches & Remarks

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release August 13, 2010
Remarks by the President at Iftar Dinner

State Dining Room

8:37 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good evening, everybody. Welcome. Please, have a seat. Well, welcome to the White House. To you, to Muslim Americans across our country, and to more than one billion Muslims around the world, I extend my best wishes on this holy month. Ramadan Kareem.

I want to welcome members of the diplomatic corps; members of my administration; and members of Congress, including Rush Holt, John Conyers, and Andre Carson, who is one of two Muslim American members of Congress, along with Keith Ellison. So welcome, all of you.

Here at the White House, we have a tradition of hosting iftars that goes back several years, just as we host Christmas parties and seders and Diwali celebrations. And these events celebrate the role of faith in the lives of the American people. They remind us of the basic truth that we are all children of God, and we all draw strength and a sense of purpose from our beliefs.

These events are also an affirmation of who we are as Americans. Our Founders understood that the best way to honor the place of faith in the lives of our people was to protect their freedom to practice religion. In the Virginia Act of Establishing Religion Freedom, Thomas Jefferson wrote that “all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion.” The First Amendment of our Constitution established the freedom of religion as the law of the land. And that right has been upheld ever since.

Indeed, over the course of our history, religion has flourished within our borders precisely because Americans have had the right to worship as they choose -– including the right to believe in no religion at all. And it is a testament to the wisdom of our Founders that America remains deeply religious -– a nation where the ability of peoples of different faiths to coexist peacefully and with mutual respect for one another stands in stark contrast to the religious conflict that persists elsewhere around the globe.

Now, that’s not to say that religion is without controversy. Recently, attention has been focused on the construction of mosques in certain communities -– particularly New York. Now, we must all recognize and respect the sensitivities surrounding the development of Lower Manhattan. The 9/11 attacks were a deeply traumatic event for our country. And the pain and the experience of suffering by those who lost loved ones is just unimaginable. So I understand the emotions that this issue engenders. And Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground.

But let me be clear. As a citizen, and as President, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country. (Applause.) And that includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in Lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances. This is America. And our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country and that they will not be treated differently by their government is essential to who we are. The writ of the Founders must endure.

We must never forget those who we lost so tragically on 9/11, and we must always honor those who led the response to that attack -– from the firefighters who charged up smoke-filled staircases, to our troops who are serving in Afghanistan today. And let us also remember who we’re fighting against, and what we’re fighting for. Our enemies respect no religious freedom. Al Qaeda’s cause is not Islam -– it’s a gross distortion of Islam. These are not religious leaders -– they’re terrorists who murder innocent men and women and children. In fact, al Qaeda has killed more Muslims than people of any other religion -– and that list of victims includes innocent Muslims who were killed on 9/11.

So that’s who we’re fighting against. And the reason that we will win this fight is not simply the strength of our arms -– it is the strength of our values. The democracy that we uphold. The freedoms that we cherish. The laws that we apply without regard to race, or religion, or wealth, or status. Our capacity to show not merely tolerance, but respect towards those who are different from us –- and that way of life, that quintessentially American creed, stands in stark contrast to the nihilism of those who attacked us on that September morning, and who continue to plot against us today.

In my inaugural address I said that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus —- and non-believers. We are shaped by every language and every culture, drawn from every end of this Earth. And that diversity can bring difficult debates. This is not unique to our time. Past eras have seen controversies about the construction of synagogues or Catholic churches. But time and again, the American people have demonstrated that we can work through these issues, and stay true to our core values, and emerge stronger for it. So it must be -– and will be -– today.

And tonight, we are reminded that Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity. And Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been a part of America. The first Muslim ambassador to the United States, from Tunisia, was hosted by President Jefferson, who arranged a sunset dinner for his guest because it was Ramadan —- making it the first known iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago. (Applause.)

Like so many other immigrants, generations of Muslims came to forge their future here. They became farmers and merchants, worked in mills and factories. They helped lay the railroads. They helped to build America. They founded the first Islamic center in New York City in the 1890s. They built America’s first mosque on the prairie of North Dakota. And perhaps the oldest surviving mosque in America —- still in use today —- is in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

Today, our nation is strengthened by millions of Muslim Americans. They excel in every walk of life. Muslim American communities —- including mosques in all 50 states —- also serve their neighbors. Muslim Americans protect our communities as police officers and firefighters and first responders. Muslim American clerics have spoken out against terror and extremism, reaffirming that Islam teaches that one must save human life, not take it. And Muslim Americans serve with honor in our military. At next week’s iftar at the Pentagon, tribute will be paid to three soldiers who gave their lives in Iraq and now rest among the heroes of Arlington National Cemetery.

These Muslim Americans died for the security that we depend on, and the freedoms that we cherish. They are part of an unbroken line of Americans that stretches back to our founding; Americans of all faiths who have served and sacrificed to extend the promise of America to new generations, and to ensure that what is exceptional about America is protected -– our commitment to stay true to our core values, and our ability slowly but surely to perfect our union.

For in the end, we remain “one nation, under God, indivisible.” And we can only achieve “liberty and justice for all” if we live by that one rule at the heart of every great religion, including Islam —- that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.

So thank you all for being here. I wish you a blessed Ramadan. And with that, let us eat. (Applause.

END
8:47 P.M. EDT

Read a translation: Arabic | Persian | Russian


19 posted on 08/15/2010 3:57:43 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: dselig
Where are the throngs of moderate Muslims...?

Where are the so-called moderate Muslims who are willing to stand up and announce publicly the Cordoba mosque should be built somewhere other than ground zero?

Oh, that's right. I'm sorry. There aren't any.

20 posted on 08/15/2010 4:00:36 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Cindy

Not as good as the speech he gave at Arlington Cemetary on Memorial Day or to the Boy Scouts on their 100th Anniversary.


21 posted on 08/15/2010 4:05:41 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter -God's redemption)
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To: SmartInsight; calex59; All

70% of people are against it.

Actually, two polls showed that 65% agreed that they have a legal right to build it, but 65% said it would be better if they chose another location. Obama could have covered both bets by saying, of course by our laws they have they right, but it would be nice if they would consider the fellings of Americans and build elsewhere.

Someone told me the reason they want to build there is because they already own the property. Actually there is a profitable fix for that. They could do a Starker (IRS 1031) Excange. With that if you sell a property, put the money in escrow and buy another property of the same or greater value, you do not have to pay capital gains tax on your profit. We did this to good effect with land my husband inherited 1,000 miles away for land and a pond only 120 miles away.

Perhaps some public spirited citizen who owns a suitable property in NY will make them an offer that would be economically stupid to refuse.


22 posted on 08/15/2010 4:08:14 PM PDT by gleeaikin (question authority)
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To: CaptainK
The President’s historic election offered so much hope.

I am seeing this more and more...Soooooo, what about the "Change"?
Let's not bring any more light to that right?

23 posted on 08/15/2010 4:14:16 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: dselig

NASA Mosque


24 posted on 08/15/2010 4:17:47 PM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: dselig
Two Americas?

The Goths (a Germanic people) invaded the Roman Empire in the fourth century A.D. and settled in France and Spain. About three hundred years later the Muslims took Visigoth Spain with the help of Spanish rivals of the Visigoth king named Roderick. There are sordid details about how this rivalry came about but some argue that it was simply a struggle for the Visigoth throne.

The rivals expected to gain and the Muslims greatly benefited. An all powerful Islamic "government" can mean an awful lot for those who go along. Could there be Americans who would do these things? Well.. a lot of Americans loved Uncle Joe Stalin.. not much difference.

25 posted on 08/15/2010 4:26:44 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: dselig; Nachum

I give you Hagia Sophia:

“The Hagia Sophia or Ayasofya as it is known in Turkish was actually a patriarchal Basilica that has been considered to be an embodiment of Byzantine architecture and also had the distinction of remaining the largest cathedral in the world until 1520. Built on the orders of the Byzantine Emperor Justinian, its interiors were richly decorated with artistic mosaics depicting various religious scenes and were supported by massive marble pillars.”

http://www.hagia-sophia.net/

“For God, the Cid, and Spain”

“1080. It was an unhappy time. Spain was war-torn. It was half Christian and half Moor. Rodrigo Diaz of Vivar came to be known as “El Cid” (”The Lord”). He was a simple man who became Spain’s greatest hero. At the time the African Emir was Ben Yusuf who gathered his forces in North Africa.

Ben Yusuf tells his men that they will first take Spain, then Europe and then the whole world.

A Spanish church is burning. A Catholic Father prays at the burned altar. Rodrigo comes over to help the Father get up. He tells the Father that they have captured the leaders of the destruction. The Father says to Rodrigo that he is a long way from home. Rodrigo explains that he was on his way to his wedding when he suddenly had to fight a battle with the Moors. Now he will take the captured Moorish leaders to Vivar.”

http://www.vernonjohns.org/snuffy1186/elcid.html

The Alhambra
http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/The_Alhambra.html

Significance of 1492 (search)
http://www.dogpile.com/dogpile/ws/results/Web/significance%20of%201492/1/417/BottomNavigation/Relevance/iq=true/zoom=off/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true

“Remembering Lepanto”
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/218921/remembering-lepanto/michael-novak

“The Al Aqsa Mosque on The Temple Mount”
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/25578

The Ground Zero Mosque, as the Flight 93 Memorial, represent CONQUEST. Get that through your heads, people.


26 posted on 08/15/2010 4:30:19 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: dselig

Where is Obama’s condemnation of bitter Muslims who cling to their religion?


27 posted on 08/15/2010 4:31:57 PM PDT by TChad
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To: dselig
In the end, moving (or at least delaying until Ground Zero is re-built) the mosque would be a real first step

The enemy, both the marxist domestic enemy in DC and the muzzie/marxist enemy abroad, are relentless and will not take no for an answer short of armed resistance.

At some point will the right will come to understand this.

28 posted on 08/15/2010 4:41:02 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: TChad

Yet another vile comment made by this fraud BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED. I surely hope the people that voted for BHO are starting to wake up. I pray it’s not too late.


29 posted on 08/15/2010 5:07:26 PM PDT by Pigsley
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To: Cindy

referenced


30 posted on 08/15/2010 5:10:31 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: dselig

George W. Bush was right — your are either with us or you are with the terrorists.

Oh AND West is BEST. The Middle East can sit on their sand with their fingers up their nose.


31 posted on 08/15/2010 5:26:37 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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To: missnry
*Headline only* (revised)

THE TWO AMERICAS: THOSE FOR AND THOSE AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION!

The solutions to all the problems we have lie in that Profound document called the United States Constitution includingThe Declaration of Independence.

No new solutions are needed ... period.

32 posted on 08/15/2010 5:45:01 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (We in Missouri spoke LOUDLY 08/03/10 & We peacefully said NO to Tyranny. Are you listening Marxists?)
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To: dselig

Obama isn’t out of touch, he is a Muslim.

Of course he wants to build the mosque and spit in the face of Americans.


33 posted on 08/15/2010 5:45:58 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: dselig
"Why should we care what the majority of the American people thinks, they elected George W. Bush twice."

How soon they have forgotten the point they used to obsess over--the fact that Gore got more popular votes than Bush in 2000 (although neither had a majority).

34 posted on 08/15/2010 6:08:43 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: mojito

If and when push comes-to-shove where do you think all those moderate muslems will go. You can bet all your pork sausages they will be sucking the air at Obama’s backside. A serious question is why do we say moderate muslems all the time as if there are no muslems who are liberal muslems.All this talk of diversity sounds more like a political tower of babel.


35 posted on 08/15/2010 6:27:44 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Cindy
For in the end, we remain “one nation, under God, indivisible.” And we can only achieve “liberty and justice for all” if we live by that one rule at the heart of every great religion, including Islam —- that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.

I wonder where are the passages in the Koran that say this? I know it's a teaching of Jesus, and while I can't quote the passages in the New Testament, it seems to me He was very precise and clear in the instruction, and that you were intended to apply it not only to your own circle or society, but all people, all the time, even when you didn't know them from Adam.

I think Obama is lying with the statment. I think the Golden Rule is alien to the Koran. But most people placidly and willingly engage the illusion that all religions say, more or less, the same thing. It's the path of least resistence in "getting along." A line from a movie: "Being a criminal is the easy way. It's like water. Water takes the path of least resistence. And so you get crooked rivers, and crooked men."

And crooked political policy.

36 posted on 08/15/2010 6:51:18 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Cindy
For in the end, we remain “one nation, under God, indivisible.” And we can only achieve “liberty and justice for all” if we live by that one rule at the heart of every great religion, including Islam —- that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.

I wonder where are the passages in the Koran that say this? I know it's a teaching of Jesus, and while I can't quote the passages in the New Testament, it seems to me He was very precise and clear in the instruction, and that you were intended to apply it not only to your own circle or society, but all people, all the time, even when you didn't know them from Adam.

I think Obama is lying with the statment. I think the Golden Rule is alien to the Koran. But most people placidly and willingly engage the illusion that all religions say, more or less, the same thing. It's the path of least resistence in "getting along." A line from a movie: "Being a criminal is the easy way. It's like water. Water takes the path of least resistence. And so you get crooked rivers, and crooked men."

And crooked political policy.

37 posted on 08/15/2010 6:51:24 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: All

Sorry for the double post. Is it my computer, or is the internet slow tonight?


38 posted on 08/15/2010 6:52:20 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: combat_boots

“For God, the Cid, and Spain”

Now you’ve done it! NOW YOU’VE DONE IT! I will have to break out my DVD copy of EL CID and watch it again, and again, and again!


39 posted on 08/15/2010 6:53:13 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Viva los SB 1070)
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To: gleeaikin
Perhaps some public spirited citizen who owns a suitable property in NY will make them an offer that would be economically stupid to refuse.

I think counting on these guys NOT being stupid is in vain. I'm in a movie quoting mood ... "A little people. A silly people. Greedy, barbarous, and cruel." (Lawrence of Arabia)

40 posted on 08/15/2010 6:55:04 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Suerte. Dios te bendiga.

.....Arriba. Abajo. Acerca. Adentro.

Cheers.


41 posted on 08/15/2010 6:57:50 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: TChad
Where is Obama’s condemnation of bitter Muslims who cling to their religion?

Good one, TChad...

Check out my tagline - So 'K with you? Let me know...

42 posted on 08/15/2010 7:07:02 PM PDT by GOPJ (Where's Obama’s condemnation of bitter Muslims who cling to their religion?-FreeperTChad)
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To: gleeaikin

Governor Patterson made an offer of a suitable state-owned parcel, which they turned down.


43 posted on 08/15/2010 10:12:37 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall
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To: donna

Just as we rallied to win WWI and WWII for the Europeans and for the world, it will be America that will fight and win this new and different war. No way will be cave to those who want to set up their own nation within ours, like some kind of tapeworm.


44 posted on 08/15/2010 10:29:14 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: missnry
Obama can OBFUSCATE, "backpedal", LIE, and "Walkback" all he wants but it is too late, Obama is nothing short of satanic. On Friday he told the Muslims he had gathered in the PEOPLES house, along with the entire world which side he is really on in the war on terror = America or Islam. He made his choice and sided with Islam over America and told us all that he approves of the MUSLIM 9/11 VICTORY Mosque, that He DOES NOT OBJECT TO IT and that he wants it built at the site of Islam's victory over America. HIS ADMINISTRATION, HIS STATE DEPARTMENT is spending OUR TAXPAYER MONEY TO SEND THE IMAM WHO IS HELL-BENT ON BUILDING THIS MONSTROSITY ALL OVER THE

I S L A M I C WORLD

TO RAISE MONEY TO BUILD THE 9/11 VICTORY MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO IN ORDER TO HUMILIATE ALL OF AMERICA!

The words Obama said on Friday in support of this abomination he agreed to and proclaimed before all of those assembled and before the entire world OF HIS OWN FREE WILL. (For him to now be saying that he did not mean what he said is ridiculous.)

With his statement on Friday Obama COMPLETELY and PERMANENTLY BROKE FAITH WITH THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA! He once and for all told America and the World exactly which side he is on: He supports Islam and the enemies of the United States both at home and abroad. We have him speaking these words, on video. He can lie and obfuscate and try to "backpedal" all he wants, but it is too late, he cannot undo what he has done;

Obama didn't just "spit it the eye of America;" he pulled down his pants in front of the entire country and world, squatted on the hallowed 9/11/01 Ground Zero site and took a huge PUBLIC DUMP UPON GROUND ZERO AND UPON ALL OF AMERICA! After he was done, he got up, pulled up his pants, smiled, his narcissistic smile at the camera and said: "This is where I stand regarding America, Islam and Ground Zero."

Obama is Satan's servant = totally anti-American, anti-Semitic and filled with the spirit of antichrist.

45 posted on 08/15/2010 11:31:15 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Heavenly Father, deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: GOPJ
So 'K with you? Let me know...

Fine by me. Thanks for the compliment.

46 posted on 08/15/2010 11:57:30 PM PDT by TChad
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To: donna
Do Americans believe Western Civilization is better than Islam or not? ...... yes, Christianity is far Superior than Islam.
Islam can not, nor will it ever coexist with a free and prosperous society.
47 posted on 08/16/2010 12:31:07 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USAis no civility in)
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To: Finny
" I think Obama is lying with the statment. I think the Golden Rule is alien to the Koran. But most people placidly and willingly engage the illusion that all religions say, more or less, the same thing. It's the path of least resistance in "getting along." A line from a movie: "Being a criminal is the easy way. It's like water. Water takes the path of least resistance. And so you get crooked rivers, and crooked men."

Broad and wide is the road of many religions, belief systems, ideas, political movements, following leaders, that lead to destruction.

Matthew 7 : 13,14,15,

13. “You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell[f] is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way.
14. But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it.
The Tree and Its Fruit
15. “Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves.

48 posted on 08/16/2010 12:58:38 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USAis no civility in)
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To: Cindy
[Obama text] And Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground. But let me be clear. As a citizen, and as President, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country.

Including the part where they lash out at unbelievers with mass-murder, and then erect a monumental mosque to celebrate their feat of blood, their dragging of the bodies?

It turns the White House into a grotesquerie of competing observances, when the President pops in to gladhand Catholics holding a novena in one room, Jews having a seder in another, and Moslems holding a Ramadan supper in yet another, his hands smoking-fresh with blood of a chicken he's just helped slaughter down the corridor where the santeros are staging the gross solemnities of palo mayombe next door to the Wiccans who are "breaking in" the White House with its very first Witches' Sabbath, before hurrying along to mingle with the Satanists who've just summoned Lord Moloch with a prayer circle of their own.

This is insane.

"Patchwork" my ass. Time to hit the "reset" button.

49 posted on 08/16/2010 6:24:45 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: TChad

Thanks, TChad.


50 posted on 08/16/2010 6:30:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Where's Obama's condemnation of bitter Muslims who cling to their religion?-FreeperTChad)
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