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Obama's Islamic-Center Stance: Why the GOP Shouldn't Run Against It (BS! The GOP should and will!)
Time ^ | 8/16/2010 | Mark Halperin

Posted on 08/16/2010 3:49:50 AM PDT by tobyhill

Dear Republican Party:

Your moment is now.

This weekend, President Obama defended the right of Muslims to build a community center and mosque two short blocks from Ground Zero, despite cries of insensitivity from some New Yorkers and accusations of mischief from some pundits. This finally gives you an opportunity to add a powerful national-security cudgel to the message of economic woe you have been pushing as the midterm election approaches.

The political potency of the issue is obvious. Polls overwhelmingly show the President has put himself on the wrong side of public opinion. Opposition to the new facility arouses acute emotion and creates near total unity among relatives of 9/11 victims, first responders, Republican officeholders, potential 2012 presidential candidates, Tea Party members, the Fox News–talk radio–Drudge Report echo machine and many of the highly coveted swing and occasional voters whom you will need at the polls to win in November.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; 911conquestmosque; 911victorymosque; bho44; bhofascism; bhoislamism; crushislam; democrats; dhimmicrats; elections; enemedia; groundzeromosque; halperin; islam; islamofacism; liberalmedia; markhalperin; msm; obama; obamagroundzero; obamedia; timemagazine; zerogroundzero
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To: Mr. Silverback
It’s sad that people like Halperin really think there are people sitting around in the Muslim world thinking, “America is so wonderful...what? The Republican Party opposes a radical imam building a mosque at Ground Zero? Those evil bastards! I’m joining Al-Qaida!”

Soon we'll be hearing that 9/11 was simply a protest against American bigotry, and those of us protesting the mosque are proving the hijackers right.

I'd love to see how this guy would respond if some crazy person claiming to be a Christian killed a bunch of people at an abortion clinic, and a Catholic church was proposed for the area.

121 posted on 08/16/2010 8:59:00 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Fanaticism is described as redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim."-G. Santayana)
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To: maggief

In a sense. Liberal media types seem driven (I think it’s their authoritarian nature that compells them) to tell us exactly what they fear.


122 posted on 08/16/2010 8:59:03 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: paulycy; maggief

One word: Journolist.


123 posted on 08/16/2010 9:01:15 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Servant of the Cross

That column is just astoundingly well done, even for the masterful Krauthammer.


124 posted on 08/16/2010 9:07:30 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: marstegreg

Plus, he’s referencing a movie that ends with a race riot.


125 posted on 08/16/2010 9:18:22 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: detritus

There is no Constitutional violation in opposing this mosque being built on this site. To suggest there is is to ignore nearly all the facts of the case.


126 posted on 08/16/2010 9:23:50 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: tobyhill
Here's a SOLUTION!

Build a Bernie's chili dog restaurant at ground zero that has a "Mecca Burger" on the menu.

Big ribbon cutting ceremony with Congressman Nadler and Mayor BloomGoon.

Send in the CLOWNS! /s

127 posted on 08/16/2010 9:25:01 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: tobyhill
No one is disputing their “right to build

You haven't read many posts here. Plenty of people here are quite willing to violate first amendment and property rights to stop the builing. BTW, I believe that is Newt's position.

128 posted on 08/16/2010 9:27:01 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: tobyhill

Time Magazine doing their best to emulate Newsweek.

May they have the same financial success!


129 posted on 08/16/2010 9:27:12 AM PDT by mojito
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Thanks!


130 posted on 08/16/2010 9:27:32 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Darkwolf377

Krauthammer used the example of building a German cultural center at Treblinka. Just because the vast majority of Germans hate Nazism doesn’t mean it’s a good to put it there, Put the same center in, say Gdansk and you have no problem.


131 posted on 08/16/2010 9:31:17 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: VideoDoctor
I appreciate that you are being sarcastic. My opinion on the matter is - and this is being honest and up front -

There can be no mosque on that site! It is hallowed ground!

In fact, it was just mentioned on 'Rush' that the wheels of one of the planes landed on the roof of that building!

132 posted on 08/16/2010 9:34:17 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: airborne
There can be no mosque on that site! It is hallowed ground!

Some of us put more value on the "hallowed" rights of property and the first amendment. BTW, some of the folks here sound like my "sensitive" Nervous Nellie PC friends who want to prohibit anything that "offends" them such as smokers in public parks, the Confederate flag, etc.

133 posted on 08/16/2010 9:37:45 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Mr. Silverback

Number of mosques in New York in early 90’s = “8 or 9”

Number of mosques in New York today = NINETY

28 in Queens, 27 in Brooklyn, nearly 20 in Manhattan and in the Bronx and at least 8 in Staten Island.

“But increasingly, various New York neighborhoods with large Muslim populations are latching onto mosque construction as a way of making Islam more visible and improving the neighborhood.”

Source:

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?c=Article_C&pagename=Zone-English-ArtCulture/ACELayout&cid=1158658279073


134 posted on 08/16/2010 9:38:59 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. --Chinatown, written by Robert Towne)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Only a moron would make it the core of their campaign, but it should not be off the table. ?

No, but the damage has been done by Obama's popping off last Friday night. He's tap-dancing like crazy and most Democrats are trying to distance themselves from his remarks. I just don't see a whole lot more that can be reaped from it.

135 posted on 08/16/2010 9:40:20 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Captain Kirk
"Plenty of people here are quite willing to violate first amendment and property rights to stop the builing."

Do you think Jefferson or any of the founders would have consider it a first amendment property right to construct a statue of King George next to the site of the Boston Massacre?

[ Don't repeat the John Adams leftwing myth! He defended the British soldier in the King's Court as an attorney admitted to the King's bar - 6 years before the Declaration of Independence. ]

136 posted on 08/16/2010 9:48:28 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Captain Kirk

So, build a McDonalds on Little Round Top? Why not?

The only thing worse than nervous nellie PC morons is the sort of conservative who thinks any position other than “anything goes” is som,e sort of evil assault on the Constitution.


137 posted on 08/16/2010 9:51:14 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Mr. Silverback
So, build a McDonalds on Little Round Top? Why not?

If a private owner there is willing to sell, and no private covenants are violated, that is their right. Period.

138 posted on 08/16/2010 9:55:29 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Darkwolf377

I think Rush just quoted my post. :P


139 posted on 08/16/2010 9:58:00 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. --Chinatown, written by Robert Towne)
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To: drpix
Do you think Jefferson or any of the founders would have consider it a first amendment property right to construct a statue of King George next to the site of the Boston Massacre?

If there was a willing private seller, I think their answer would be "yes." In this respect, I have more respect and faith in the deeply-held pro-property rights principles of the founders than you do. To my knowledge, neither the Massachusetts nor U.S. constitution made (or makes) an "exception" for statues of King George.

140 posted on 08/16/2010 9:59:07 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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