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Is Your Local Mosque 'Moderate' or 'Radical'? (Please circulate)
Act for America (email) | August 16, 2010 | Tawfik Hamid

Posted on 08/16/2010 8:04:49 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ask the Imams of Mosques, the Muslim leaders, and the Islamic organizations in the US and worldwide to sign this declaration (See below)

by Tawfik Hamid

www.tawfikhamid.com

After the problem of Ground Zero Mosque has escalated it becomes an urgent necessity to distinguish 'Moderate' from 'Radical' Islam. Without making such a distinction the US and the rest of the world will remain divided regarding this issue. Debates about the issue can be endless unless we define the words 'radical' and 'moderate'.

Mosque leaders, Islamic scholars, and organizations who want to be considered Moderates MUST clearly and unambiguously declare the following declaration in their media outlets and on their websites.

I suggest that you send this declaration to Mosque leaders and the Islamic organizations inside the US and worldwide to see if they are ready to accept such a declaration or not.

Please feel free to circulate this newsletter so that we can start a process that allows us to distinguish radical from moderate Islam.

Declaration of Beliefs of Muslim Moderates -

I (We) are Muslims who want contemporary understandings of Islam to replace currently predominant harsh and radical (Salafi/Wahabbi) interpretations of our religion. We therefore declare that:

1- Redda Law, the Sharia Law that allows the killing of Muslims who convert to other faiths, must be banned in Islamic teachings and in Sharia legal doctrine. Islamic countries that practice Sharia must stop the practice of this law and must admit that Freedom of belief and the right to convert to other faith or believe is a basic right that must be given to all Muslims.

2- Current mainstream Sharia doctrines justify the use of violence against women. They encourage men to beat their wives to discipline them. They allow women accused of adultery to be stoned to death. These doctrines are barbarically inhumane, non-egalitarian, and teach Muslim children to be violent. These teachings must be ended by reinterpreting the Islamic text that justifies such violence.

3- Traditional Sharia doctrines teach Muslims that they must engage in war so that Islam will dominate the world. When Islam becomes dominant, Non-Muslims are offered three options: to convert to Islam, to pay Jizzia (a humiliating tax), or to be killed. These doctrines run contrary to modern respect for diversity and for personal freedom of speech and belief. This understanding of Jihad that seeks domination of Islam over other peoples must no longer be regarded as an Islamic value and its teaching as a duty for Muslims must end.

The early Islamic wars known as "Futohaat Islameia" were fought to implement this doctrine of Jihad. These wars therefore should now be regarded as un-Islamic and un-justifiable.

4- Jews are individuals who deserve the same respect accorded to all individuals. They should not be called "pigs and monkeys." The Islamic teaching that Muslims must fight and kill all Jews before the end of days is totally incorrect and unacceptable as it does not exist in the Quran. All teachings that encourage anti-Semitic attitudes, violence or disrespect toward Jews must be declared un-Islamic.

5- Slavery is a crime against humanity. All Sharia laws that justify slavery in our modern times must not be taught any more. Muslim scholars must have a clear and loud voice against slavery.

6- Islamic Sharia laws currently permit the killing homosexuals. These laws also are advocating a crime against our fellow human beings. They must be declared un-Islamic and their implementation must be considered criminal.

Signed,

Dr. Tawfik Hamid

Comment:

The above violent teachings, which currently are taught in mainstream Islamic books in America, are implemented in countries that allow governance according to Sharia Law. Future Muslim generations must be protected from these destructive doctrines, interpretations and customs.

These violent Sharia doctrines must be replaced with clear and unconditional explanations of why they no longer are valid.

Anything short of a fully clear and unequivocal stand against these doctrines indicates passive approval. Therefore, all Islamic leaders who genuinely consider themselves to be Muslim moderates must post these principles in English and in Arabic in full public view on their websites and declare them in their media outlets.

Failure to publically post and support these principles should be interpreted as clear evidence that a leader's mosque or Islamic organization must be considered radical.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; moderateislam; mosques; muslims; radicalislam; sharia
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1 posted on 08/16/2010 8:04:52 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All

Three things about Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded


2 posted on 08/16/2010 8:06:45 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

When the only path to “moderation” requires all those interpretive acrobatics, then the problem isn’t with the interpretation: it’s with the text. In reality, a “moderate Muslim” is one who doesn’t follow the Koran at all.


3 posted on 08/16/2010 8:08:03 AM PDT by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My mosque is moderate; that is, it is typical, and believes most terrorism against the infidel is justified, and particularly justified against the United States.


4 posted on 08/16/2010 8:08:36 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: sthguard

You nailed it in your post #3.


5 posted on 08/16/2010 8:10:07 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ah, the elusive search for the moderate mosque. A quest on par with those legendary quests for the gay christian, the conservative Democrat, the holy grail, and the lost ark.

One of these days, maybe we’ll be able to add the quest for the liberal Republican to that list, but unfortunately these days such critters are too easy to find.


6 posted on 08/16/2010 8:13:23 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: sthguard

It is beginning to look like the difference between a moderate Muslim and a radical Muslim is that the radical Muslim is willing to actually strap the bomb on himself.


7 posted on 08/16/2010 8:14:04 AM PDT by newheart (History is an outbreak of madness--Ellul)
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To: sthguard
In reality, a “moderate Muslim” is one who doesn’t follow the Koran at all.

In which case they end up dead.
8 posted on 08/16/2010 8:14:17 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This guy will have a fatwa (or whatever it’s called) on his head by day’s end.

Sounds like he’s heading toward conversion one day.


9 posted on 08/16/2010 8:17:05 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There is no moderate Islam. There are, however, moderate Muslims, and Muslims who possess character. They follow Islam at their own peril. Likely, they practice Islam simply based on traditions, and cultural identity. Islam does not take into account free will, and seeks to impose strict adherence too it’s teachings and laws. All, of which, simply enslave the individual. Like all men, moderate Muslims, have the fire of freedom burning within. They are welcome here. Simply know this, I will not tolerate Islam, and when it knocks on my door, I will push back.


10 posted on 08/16/2010 8:22:14 AM PDT by 724th (Tolerance is the virtue of a man without conviction.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Good luck with that.


11 posted on 08/16/2010 8:27:07 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 569 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There are no moderate muslims. There is only Dar al islam or Dar al Hab: the house of islam or the house of war.


12 posted on 08/16/2010 8:29:46 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: 724th
True, a few:

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

-- Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 [London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899]).

13 posted on 08/16/2010 8:31:30 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 569 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

All are radiacal as no “moderate” one would ever refuse the demands of the radical ones.


14 posted on 08/16/2010 8:32:11 AM PDT by CodeToad ("Idiocracy" is not just a movie.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Mosque leaders, Islamic scholars, and organizations who want to be considered Moderates MUST clearly and unambiguously declare the following declaration in their media outlets and on their websites

Fat(wa) chance

15 posted on 08/16/2010 8:41:56 AM PDT by mikrofon
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Houston, we have a problem here. Any declaration made by a Muslim has no value because Muslims are commanded to lie to us infidels. Trust is a must in any contract. Yep, we have a problem.


16 posted on 08/16/2010 8:45:05 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There is NO “local” mosque where I live. Not even radical sheetheads would be that stupid.


17 posted on 08/16/2010 8:53:28 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I beleive mine is mostly a wooden structure.


18 posted on 08/16/2010 8:55:27 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The logic of this writer would lead one to believe that the only civilized strain of Islam would be one which abandoned all central tenets of the religion.

Was this irony?


19 posted on 08/16/2010 10:11:22 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Well, my mosque doesn’t exist here yet ... so I look around to see what does ... the Episcopalians are about the most radical crowd we have ... but alas their numbers dwindle.


20 posted on 08/16/2010 10:40:15 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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