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The left is unpopular, undisciplined and ill-tempered
Weekly Standard ^ | 8/16/10 | William Kristol

Posted on 08/16/2010 8:17:45 AM PDT by Nachum

The left has collapsed.

Its political support has collapsed. Public opinion polls point to a historic repudiation of the president and the Democratic party this fall, something on the order of a 60-seat Republican gain in the House. The GOP has an outside shot at taking the Senate as well.

Its claim to intellectual integrity has collapsed. Paul Krugman, Ivy League professor, New York Times columnist and Nobel laureate (the holy trinity of the liberal establishment), has humiliated himself with a startlingly dishonest attack on Paul Ryan's budget proposal. Krugman, called out by Ryan, rebuked by honest analysts and unwilling to concede his errors, has retreated into uncharacteristic abashed silence.

Its Leninist discipline has collapsed. Last week, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs complained about the craziness of the professional left in the punditocracy. "Those people ought to be drug tested," Gibbs explained. "They will be satisfied when we have Canadian health care and we've eliminated the Pentagon. That's not reality. ... They wouldn't be satisfied if Dennis Kucinich was president."

Members of the professional left hit back at Gibbs, dubbing the Obama White House the "amateur left."

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Some animals are the most dangerous when they are cornered.
1 posted on 08/16/2010 8:17:47 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

They are like a nest of fire ants that has been poked with a stick. Time to call in the ANDRO strike. Obama is the Queen.


2 posted on 08/16/2010 8:19:58 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Nachum

They can do all sorts of damage, but we can always undo it and rebuild. And, people are fed up and horrified with the thought of supporting more moochers, like illegals.


3 posted on 08/16/2010 8:20:00 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Nachum

“Everything about socialism is sham and affectation.” - Frederic Bastiat 1801-1850


4 posted on 08/16/2010 8:20:22 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Nachum
That what happens when Liars are discovered. The Progressive Fascists, lead by Obama, lied their way into power. Then, after wining power by lying, they mistook their victory for support of their true ideological agenda.

It never once crossed their minds that a good chunk of their support came from people who actually expected them to live up to their campaign rhetoric

5 posted on 08/16/2010 8:21:44 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: Nachum

These are not dangerous but endangered... political suicide comes to mind.


6 posted on 08/16/2010 8:22:29 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Nachum

Dems are desperate and in panic mode.

They realize the outlook is grim for them.

Conversely, the republicans should be wary about taking voters for granted and becoming overconfident.

Conservatives must make and take their case to the American people and the voters why they are best suited to turn the economy around. If they can do that and make it stick, they will win and win big.


7 posted on 08/16/2010 8:24:18 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Nachum

Gotta take issue with the Weekly Standard here.

The Visible Elected Left is currently under assault. But they hold - for now - the govt and the *bureaucracy.* Plus, the hard-core invisible workers on the extreme left haven’t stopped or even slowed down.

This notion that the “left” or “liberals” or “progressives” are beaten is HOGWASH. BS. Garbage. Etc.

We must not believe this for a moment. We need to continue recruiting “overwhelming force” at the ballot box and in ALL local and regional elected offices and bureaucratic jobs.

That’s what the left has done for 50 years and what we need to do in 8 years or less.

Don’t wimp out Weekly Standard. And don’t peddle the notion that this war is anywhere NEAR completion. We’re just about to start round two, NOT 15.


8 posted on 08/16/2010 8:24:23 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: PGalt

That’s not reality. ...

That’s where liberals live in unreality. Socialism has never worked but they keep giving it a go - thus still proving the definition of insanity.


9 posted on 08/16/2010 8:24:49 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Nachum
Could it be that the sleeping giant (good, honest, hard working, decent Americans) has awakened?
10 posted on 08/16/2010 8:26:26 AM PDT by no dems (To Every Democrat in the U.S. House and Senate: "Shame, shame. Shame on all your houses.")
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To: Nachum
Some animals are the most dangerous when they are cornered.

Yes but all animals are easier to kill when cornered. We are being presented with a very rare opportunity to take them all the way down. In putting Obama in the White House the left gave up any pretense of being anything other than doctoral communists. It is like in the vampire movies. The vampire wins until the townsfolk realize that the suave count isn't what he says he is and that they are in fact up against a monster. Then the torches and pitchforks come out. Once the mask comes off and the corner has been turned it is just a matter of pulling down the count's castle and driving home the stakes.
11 posted on 08/16/2010 8:26:49 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Nachum
Members of the professional left hit back at Gibbs, dubbing the Obama White House the "amateur left."

Oh what a low blow. *snicker*

12 posted on 08/16/2010 8:27:38 AM PDT by Enterprise (As a disaster unfolds, a putz putts.)
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To: Nachum

The left needs to be put down. Along with islam.


13 posted on 08/16/2010 8:29:02 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: MNJohnnie
You are right again. And I would try to supply an explanation for their assumption that they could get away with it.

Of course it includes their insufferable arrogance in which they see the world as filled with either enemies or useful idiots. Neither one deserves to be told the truth. You see, they know that the whole system is corrupt and only they can bring it to righteousness. They must break some eggs to make this omelette but the soufflé will be divine.


14 posted on 08/16/2010 8:30:20 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: paulycy
You made a tremendously important point. They control the bureaucracy.

And all of those 6-figure/huge pension public "servants" won't give up without a fight.

They will use the IRS, state DMVs, police, EPA, any number of government agencies to attack and destroy the people that pay their salaries.
15 posted on 08/16/2010 8:30:57 AM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: Blind Eye Jones
The "F*ck Tea" movement -- that's what the left has come to. They can't defend the results of Obama's policies or the validity of Krugman's arguments.

They know it's hard to sustain an anti-democratic ethos in a democracy. They realize they've degenerated into pro-am levels of whining and squabbling. So they curse their opponents.

Liberals envision themselves as such proponents of the arts. Their "F*ck Tea" project certainly illustrates that they're anything but artful. Here's another example of why the @ss is such a perfect moniker for progressives.

16 posted on 08/16/2010 8:34:47 AM PDT by downtownconservative (Even Emperor Obama has now noticed he has no clothes. His response? "Bush stole my clothes".)
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To: atomicweeder
They will use the IRS, state DMVs, police, EPA, any number of government agencies to attack and destroy the people that pay their salaries.

They are on the gravy train and will fight to keep it.

What really needs to happen is to get an administration that will pass some sort of law to limit govt workers to the national median income. Good luck on that, I know, but we gotta try.

Working for the govt is WAY too attractive to people right now. High wages - double the median income - and you don't get fired. This has to stop ASAP.

17 posted on 08/16/2010 8:35:56 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: paulycy

This notion that the “left” or “liberals” or “progressives” are beaten is HOGWASH.

Don’t you think that they’re being systematically disarmed of their favorite weapons (e.g., use of the tools, “intolerance,” “racism,” etc.) Who cringes at the thought of those words any more? Seems like they’re losing ground. Granted, they haven’t been crushed yet, but they’re circling the drain. Eternal vigilance is necessary. We’ve had it so good for so long that some of us have become complacent. To quote Carrie Underwood’s current hit, “I wanna undo it!”


18 posted on 08/16/2010 8:35:56 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (Employing freedom of speech/expression in order to condemn freedom of speech/expression—go figure..)
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To: PGalt
“Everything about socialism is sham and affectation defecation.”

There, I fixed it.
19 posted on 08/16/2010 8:37:45 AM PDT by no dems (To Every Democrat in the U.S. House and Senate: "Shame, shame. Shame on all your houses.")
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To: no dems

Yes!


20 posted on 08/16/2010 8:39:05 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (Employing freedom of speech/expression in order to condemn freedom of speech/expression—go figure..)
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To: Silentgypsy
Don’t you think that they’re being systematically disarmed of their favorite weapons

Yes.

Seems like they’re losing ground.

Yes, they are currently ceding ground.

We’ve had it so good for so long that some of us have become complacent. To quote Carrie Underwood’s current hit, “I wanna undo it!”

Absolutely. I agree with everything you've said but every contest of every kind has periods of advance followed by periods of retreat by both sides.

My goal is to help ROUT these idiots out of our govt as completely as possible in a very few years. I believe it's possible but requires... you said it... Constant Vigilance and steady work on all fronts.

21 posted on 08/16/2010 8:40:41 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Nachum

Kristol does OUR side a potentially grave disservice with his remarks. (Which raises even more suspicions in my mind as to why this Beltway insider would do so.) The danger is that folks on our side will relax and not keep up the pressure on these idiot progressives.

The less motivated might even stay home on election day. Yes, the left MAY be collapsing: Given that the left operates on “feelings” and “emotion,” it’s what happens to them when confronted by reason and logic.

BUT NEVER FORGET THAT EVEN A DYING RATTLESNAKE CAN STILL KILL YOU!


22 posted on 08/16/2010 8:41:34 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (The upcoming election is the most important in our lifetimes!!! BE THERE!!!!!!!)
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To: nathanbedford

Re: They must break some eggs to make this omelette

I love it when someone paraphrases, “Bhowani Junction.”


23 posted on 08/16/2010 8:41:59 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (Employing freedom of speech/expression in order to condemn freedom of speech/expression—go figure..)
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To: paulycy
You are absolutely right. People saying the left is vanquished do not realize they are like roaches when you spray insecticide. They scurry out of sight. Spray, go to bed, get up around 3AM and turn on the lights--there they are, scurrying everywhere.

We have to spray, put out bait, go next door and spray and keep doing that every little bit.Even--ugh! squash all those you can step on.

vaudine

24 posted on 08/16/2010 8:43:21 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: no dems

“I fear we have done nothing but awaken a sleeping giant, and fill him with a terrible resolve.”


25 posted on 08/16/2010 8:46:06 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Hardraade

Like the rabid animals that they are.


26 posted on 08/16/2010 8:46:57 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: screaminsunshine

I’m thinking of a nest of fire ants behind a tent with half a sandwich in it. Everything’s fine ‘till 3:30 in the morning when your sleeping bag is filled with them. The federal government is like a huge network of anthills, all connected to each other, completely infiltrating the landscape. Congress is just one of them. And obama... he’s merely a happy camper. Eradicating that many ants is a lot more work than Kristol is willing to let on. Overconfidence is dangerous.


27 posted on 08/16/2010 8:47:49 AM PDT by Seven plus One
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To: Nachum

This is an incredible video. I’ve just sent the link out to everyone on my list.

This is supposed to be happy, pro-Palestinian propaganda! That says it all.

Also, I think it needs to be pointed out that we American taxpayers are continually funding these Palestinian leaders, directly and through the UN. Where did they get all that money to buy those little girls?

From us!

Obama recently sent them a big present, as I recall.


28 posted on 08/16/2010 8:48:56 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: paulycy

Some folks in broadcasting are all too willing to give libs and dems the benefit of the doubt when they should not give them the benefit of anything.

Broadcasters like Bill O’Reilly who try to bend over backwards to be fair actually does a disservice when these people are so obviously communists and he does not call them out on it.


29 posted on 08/16/2010 8:49:24 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: downtownconservative

Swearing is the latest trend in the arts — shock value and vulgarity are fashionable to the Democrats — basically, the personality of an unflushed toilet.


30 posted on 08/16/2010 8:50:03 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Cicero

Sorry, I was posting to another thread, but somehow it got switched in the process.


31 posted on 08/16/2010 8:50:24 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: vaudine

Everything - and I mean everything except the islamic angle - I learned about FROM MARXISTS in the late 80s and early 90s. This includes:

Marxism/Socialism/Communism
Alinsky.
Death of Religion in the US.
Non-leftists are racists.
Global Warming.
Existence of Groups like ACORN.
Etc.

For this reason I tell people to watch Glenn Beck because I KNOW that what he is saying is the truth and I KNOW how hard it is to convince good, decent people that the marxists truly want to destroy America. Glenn gets it according to my personal experience in Los Angeles (where 0bama got his start in college according to his books.)

They’d kill us if they could but they have adopted this method for now because of the Genius of our Constitution.

We need to fight them politically keeping this fact - that they’d kill us if they could - in mind.

See my tagline.


32 posted on 08/16/2010 8:51:17 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Nachum
...and yet their candidates will *still* receive an average of 45% of the popular vote.

That should be enough to keep us all awake at night.

33 posted on 08/16/2010 8:52:32 AM PDT by AngryJawa (Obama's Success is America's Failure)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Eeeeewww. Very well said.


34 posted on 08/16/2010 8:54:20 AM PDT by downtownconservative (Even Emperor Obama has now noticed he has no clothes. His response? "Bush stole my clothes".)
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To: Ev Reeman
Broadcasters like Bill O’Reilly who try to bend over backwards to be fair actually does a disservice

This is so very true.

There is a huge difference between "Fair and Balanced" and "objective analysis." BOR is too fair and balanced for his own good. He loses credibility when he is so obviously out of sync with what is objectively visible in terms of 0bama's behavior, etc.

BOR tries too hard to have it both ways so he can keep the ratings "fair and balanced" in his favor. He's good at it but it doesn't always help the Republic. Far from it.

35 posted on 08/16/2010 8:55:29 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: nathanbedford

Nathan bedford forrest


36 posted on 08/16/2010 8:55:52 AM PDT by DWC (historian)
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To: MNJohnnie
"The Progressive Fascists"

You nailed it! (Obviously you've been studying your ideologies and history.) The fascist era started in 1915 in Italy (and did not become a dictatorship until 20's).The collectivist ideology was embraced by FDR, and American fascism continues, stronger than ever, under the leadership of Barrack Obama. All that is missing for a dictatorship is, "a paramilitary force which would rival the national army." BTW - thats not a quote from the video of Barrack Obama, it is quote from Bosworth;'s "Mussolini's Italy", describing the fascist announcement (Jan 1923) of the intention to found a volunteer militia force for national security.[maybe Obama studied the document and simply recalled the words]

The economic failure of fascism has been obscured/hidden by going into debt. Now that the debt limit has been reached, it is about time to eliminate the fascist ideology from American life.

37 posted on 08/16/2010 9:01:38 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: Nachum

Don’t bet on it.

The Left is well financed, through George Soros and co., and through kickbacks from organizations that received the billions (trillions?) of dollars distributed in the “bailouts,” aka the Sack of the United States.
The Left still has the mainstream media beating its drum for them 24/7, and doing its best to suppress all conflicting news and opinions.
The Left is perfectly willing to pursue voter fraud, if its constituencies’ enthusiasm comes up short. This includes an attempt to buy the Secretary of State offices of the several states, to ensure a compliant oversight authority.

It ain’t over until the votes are counted and the lawsuits settled. Keep hammering them until the bell sounds...


38 posted on 08/16/2010 9:04:29 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Nachum

“nasty, brutish & short”


39 posted on 08/16/2010 9:05:05 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Compact Theory)
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To: paulycy
Don't Count Your Voters Until They Actually Make It to The Ballot Box


40 posted on 08/16/2010 9:07:15 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Really up-to-date liberals do not care what people do, as long as it is compulsory - George Will)
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To: P.O.E.
“nasty, brutish & short”

Oh you have know my ex-wife's lawyers too! (just kidding)

41 posted on 08/16/2010 9:13:23 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: no dems; All
There, I fixed it.

That, too! Thanks. This thread needs another great posters BUMP!

42 posted on 08/16/2010 9:13:54 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Nachum

NEVER get in a fight with someone who buys ink by the BARREL! The Media will cover EVERYTHING up that the Dems do badly.


43 posted on 08/16/2010 9:14:35 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: screaminsunshine
My brother, who lives in South Carolina, swears that grits are the best thing for fire ants. They think you've given them a special treat, gorge on it and die.

I wonder what the best equivalent would be for the left.

44 posted on 08/16/2010 9:28:23 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Seven plus One

Get the Queen and they all perish.


45 posted on 08/16/2010 9:28:24 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Nachum

You can tell because they seem unable to get through a web posting on any subject without resorting to profanities.


46 posted on 08/16/2010 9:50:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: allmendream

Adm. Yamamoto knew the United States very well.


47 posted on 08/16/2010 9:56:06 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Yep, and he told the Japanese high command that ‘Japan may well run wild in the East for a few years, but eventually the industrial strength of the United States will be brought to bear and we will be crushed’. They didn't listen.

He was also killed flying between two ships because we had broken the German code that the Japanese were STILL using! We were sure that the one bad thing about the total defeat of Nazi Germany was that, by then, the Japanese would have HAD to have figured out that we now OWNED their code!

But the Japanese still used the German code throughout the war. Not very smart!

48 posted on 08/16/2010 10:05:24 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Nachum
The left has collapsed.

Its political support has collapsed.

Yes it has. And it is a cycle that has repeated itself every time since 1921. The socialists get power, make huge progress and alienate the electorate. (We are here now) The electorate throws them out and puts Pubs in. The socialists go on R&R to recharge their batteries and put a new edge on their attacks. The Pubs meanwhile do nothing of substance to reverse the damage done by the socialists except maybe a slight symbolic gesture and eventually they get seduced by the Beltway and alienate the electorate and the socialists return. Lather, rinse, repeat. In essence the Pubs are morons who show up with Wiffle ball bats for a crew served weapons fight.

49 posted on 08/16/2010 10:11:25 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: Nachum
The left is unpopular, undisciplined and ill-tempered

Unfortunately, so is the "right." symbolized by Republican party.

50 posted on 08/16/2010 10:44:34 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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