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'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Discharges Hit Lesbians Hardest
aol news :nation ^ | August 16, 2010 | Andrea Stone

Posted on 08/16/2010 11:09:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs

WASHINGTON (Aug. 16) -- The military is throwing out women disproportionately under its "don't ask, don't tell" policy, even as the number of service members discharged for being gay reached a new low last year.

According to Pentagon statistics released by the Palm Center at the University of California, Santa Barbara, 428 service members were discharged in 2009 under the policy that President Barack Obama has vowed to end. That's the lowest number since the policy began in 1994 and continues a steady decline that began after the 9/11 attacks.

More than 13,500 gays and lesbians have been discharged since the policy began. In 2001, the peak year for discharges, 1,273 were removed from the military for being gay.

As in past years, the policy affected women in greater numbers than men:

Army: Lesbians accounted for 48 percent of 195 discharges under the don't-ask, don't-tell policy, even though women make up only 14 percent of the force. That's up from 2008, when women represented 36 percent of Army discharges under the policy.

Air Force: More than half, 51 percent, of those discharged were women, who make up 20 percent of the service.

Marines: Nearly one in four, or 23 percent, of discharges under the policy were women, who make up just 6 percent of the Marines. That's up from 18 percent the year before.

Navy: The sea service discharged 22 women, or 27 percent of the total ousted for being gay. Women comprise 14 percent of naval personnel.

The data also showed that in the midst of two wars, the military continued to discharge highly trained service members in mission-critical areas. Among those ousted for being gay: seven combat engineers, eight linguists, 20 infantrymen and 16 medical aides.

"These data show, yet again, that 'don't ask, don't tell' undermines national security," said Aaron Belkin, director of the Palm Center, a gay-rights advocacy group that focuses on military issues. "Why are we firing linguists and infantrymen in the middle of two wars?"

The statistics were released a day after the deadline for service members to return surveys on the Pentagon policy. Despite sending out 400,000 questionnaires, just over one in four were returned. The results will be considered by a Pentagon working group that will report its recommendations on how to lift the policy no later than Dec. 1.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dadt; dadtdontaskdonttell; dontaskdonttell; gay; lesbian; lesbonaziagenda; lesbonazism; military
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To: Brucifer

You win the “Post of the Day” award!


21 posted on 08/16/2010 12:15:23 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Brucifer

Your post sounds like something out of a Mel Brooks film, or Monty Python.


22 posted on 08/16/2010 12:29:19 PM PDT by BBell
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To: justlurking

I happen to be a lesbian...been one all my life. I love women. Problem is I’m stuck in this man’s body and the new military, Hollywood and the left all think it’s stupid to to admit it.


23 posted on 08/16/2010 12:34:13 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: Brucifer

More great and, typical, military humor. Thanks.


24 posted on 08/16/2010 12:36:01 PM PDT by miele man
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To: sickoflibs
Is this because women can't keep secrets?

(ducking, covering)

25 posted on 08/16/2010 12:36:49 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (If you call a tail a leg, how many legs has a dog?Five?No, calling a tail a leg don't make it a leg.)
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To: sickoflibs

“In 2001, the peak year for discharges, 1,273 were removed from the military for being gay.”

Wrong: they were discharged for engaging in homosexual conduct or making homosexual statements. Not for “being gay”.

and “the Palm Center”? If these guys would keep in “in the palm”, they wouldn’t be getting discharged.

Sorry. Just had to say it.

Colonel, USAFR


26 posted on 08/16/2010 12:48:54 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: sickoflibs

Hmmm. . .well, since it’s “don’t ask/don’t tell”, maybe it’s just that the female homos can’t keep their traps shut.


27 posted on 08/16/2010 12:49:30 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: irish guard

Reminds me of Gallagher: “What if I’m a woman living in a man’s body, only I don’t know it ‘cause she’s a lesbian?”

Weird guy, major anger issues, but pretty damn funny!

Colonel, USAFR


28 posted on 08/16/2010 12:52:25 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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Talked to a friend who was posted on a base in Iraq. He said eryone knew who was gay or lesbian, but it was not normally an issue. BUT, some of the lesbian women would really give straight women the eyeball in the showers, making the straight women quite uncomfortable. Heard some even talked about what they saw to some men. Very weird and just wrong. Maybe straight women are less likely to beat the snot out of a creepy woman, than straight guys, so maybe intimidation is more of a problem with women?


29 posted on 08/16/2010 1:00:42 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: GraceG
RE :”I have no problem with gays and lesbians serving as long as they keep the sex out of the barracks and certain aspects of their behavior at bay when they are serving

What about Don't Ask ? Isn't this just about them claiming that promoting their alternative sexuality is right? Like it's the First Amendment? And that restricting their ability to communicate their sexuality to find partners is a violation of that right to express themselves in the military?

They really want to marry the same sex in the military. That is where this is going.

I bet most hetro-sexual women couldnt care less if a lesbo is in the shower with them. Just my guess. (I live in a liberal state.) I bet it is much less popular with men in the military than women.

30 posted on 08/16/2010 1:12:02 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: MEGoody; Tanniker Smith
RE :”Hmmm. . .well, since it’s “don’t ask/don’t tell”, maybe it’s just that the female homos can’t keep their traps

Those are very sexist comments. The military will have new sexuality sensitivity training to make sure hetro-sexual men do not make sexist comments like those.

:)

31 posted on 08/16/2010 1:15:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Izzy Dunne

I wonder too how many were discharged because they wanted to be? After all, if one doesn’t like military life, all one has to do is say “I’m gay” and you’ll be sent out. It also sounds like there’s an extraordinary number of gays/lesbians in the military versus their % in the population. 13,500 discharged in 10 years?!


32 posted on 08/16/2010 1:18:38 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

Did they quit ‘cause they were licked?


33 posted on 08/16/2010 1:28:16 PM PDT by jdsteel (CONGRESS: Take it again in twenty ten.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Looking at some of the Pats around here, sheet they have a better haircut than me!


34 posted on 08/16/2010 1:38:41 PM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: sickoflibs

placemark


35 posted on 08/16/2010 2:51:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Brucifer

ROFL! Thanks for that post Brucifer. Keep’em coming and the book is gonna write itself. ;o)

p.s. - just got back from Hunt. They’ve moved stonehenge II from Hunt to Ingram. It’s just not the same.


36 posted on 08/16/2010 4:32:53 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: sickoflibs
90% of the ‘Don't Ask, Don't Tell’ has always been Lesbos, not Queer Guys.

It's the Lesbos who have always caused the problems!

37 posted on 08/16/2010 4:40:15 PM PDT by TRY ONE (Another Beer Summit.....another day in Debt)
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To: sickoflibs

A friend of my husband’s daughter earned an athletic scholarship to a Div. 1 University. It didn’t take but a few days for the lesbians to begin hitting on her. She was miserable, ended up transferring out and giving up her sport.


38 posted on 08/16/2010 6:10:49 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: sickoflibs
Homosexual women have an exceedingly high rate of domestic violence. That is how many of these cases come to light. Troops who beat up their partners are undesirable to have in the ranks.
39 posted on 08/16/2010 6:27:11 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: sickoflibs

Lesbians join the services in higher numbers than gay males.

Some gay men join the military who are attracted to things very masculine. Some guys struggling with sexual or gender issues join the military to be around more normal “manly men” men in the hope of learning to be a straight man, or just to “be a man”. But that’s a smaller percentage. Most gay or bisexual or otherwise queer men are going to avoid the military and pursue school or a civilian career.

The lesbians are also more aggressive towards straight women than the gay men would be (for sure straight women may put up with being hit upon by a lesbian but a straight guy won’t put up with being hit on by a gay male).

Also lesbians have lover’s spats, sometimes leading up to physical fights, and sometimes there is physical abuse in the relationship that would be called clearly Domestic Violence if it were a Man-Woman couple.

So I would say it is not surprising that the numbers of lesbians discharged from the military are higher even if they are a smaller percentage overall.percentage


40 posted on 08/16/2010 6:50:31 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one... Luke 22:36)
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