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'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Discharges Hit Lesbians Hardest
aol news :nation ^ | August 16, 2010 | Andrea Stone

Posted on 08/16/2010 11:09:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs

WASHINGTON (Aug. 16) -- The military is throwing out women disproportionately under its "don't ask, don't tell" policy, even as the number of service members discharged for being gay reached a new low last year.

According to Pentagon statistics released by the Palm Center at the University of California, Santa Barbara, 428 service members were discharged in 2009 under the policy that President Barack Obama has vowed to end. That's the lowest number since the policy began in 1994 and continues a steady decline that began after the 9/11 attacks.

More than 13,500 gays and lesbians have been discharged since the policy began. In 2001, the peak year for discharges, 1,273 were removed from the military for being gay.

As in past years, the policy affected women in greater numbers than men:

Army: Lesbians accounted for 48 percent of 195 discharges under the don't-ask, don't-tell policy, even though women make up only 14 percent of the force. That's up from 2008, when women represented 36 percent of Army discharges under the policy.

Air Force: More than half, 51 percent, of those discharged were women, who make up 20 percent of the service.

Marines: Nearly one in four, or 23 percent, of discharges under the policy were women, who make up just 6 percent of the Marines. That's up from 18 percent the year before.

Navy: The sea service discharged 22 women, or 27 percent of the total ousted for being gay. Women comprise 14 percent of naval personnel.

The data also showed that in the midst of two wars, the military continued to discharge highly trained service members in mission-critical areas. Among those ousted for being gay: seven combat engineers, eight linguists, 20 infantrymen and 16 medical aides.

"These data show, yet again, that 'don't ask, don't tell' undermines national security," said Aaron Belkin, director of the Palm Center, a gay-rights advocacy group that focuses on military issues. "Why are we firing linguists and infantrymen in the middle of two wars?"

The statistics were released a day after the deadline for service members to return surveys on the Pentagon policy. Despite sending out 400,000 questionnaires, just over one in four were returned. The results will be considered by a Pentagon working group that will report its recommendations on how to lift the policy no later than Dec. 1.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dadt; dadtdontaskdonttell; dontaskdonttell; gay; lesbian; lesbonaziagenda; lesbonazism; military
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Boo-Hoo-hoo. I am not free to verbalize my sexual desires on the job due to sexual harrassment laws, why cant they accept this as a condition of employment when they join the military.

They are being discharged for their actions, for communicating their desires not for having them.

1 posted on 08/16/2010 11:09:39 AM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

Among the other ways to read the data, are that lesbians join the service at a higher percentage of their gender then male homosexuals, or that they just can’t shut up about being homosexual where the men are more successful at staying in the closet.


2 posted on 08/16/2010 11:13:35 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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service members discharged for being gay

I don't think they were discharged for being gay.

I'd bet they were discharged for talking about it.

3 posted on 08/16/2010 11:14:29 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: sickoflibs

Lesbian discharges? Yeach!


4 posted on 08/16/2010 11:15:39 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: sickoflibs

If these lesbians were not so much in-your-face about their lifestyle CHOICE they would NEVER be thrown out. They simply do it thinking that it will not happen and that the atmosphere, created by the leftist scum of our political leadership, will sustain them. They DEMAND that we accommodate them in the face of existing law.

I wan them all thrown out when they do this.


5 posted on 08/16/2010 11:16:11 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: sickoflibs
Discharges Hit Lesbians Hardest

Well DUH.

6 posted on 08/16/2010 11:17:32 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: sickoflibs

For some reason, I’m reminded of the old joke about how various newspapers would cover the end of the world.


7 posted on 08/16/2010 11:18:09 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Poison Pill

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8 posted on 08/16/2010 11:18:37 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: sickoflibs

This article also does not address how many of these people intentionally let their sexualorientation be know in order to get out of the service without completing their contract. Back when I was in, a person could get out fairly quickly by saying they were gay.


9 posted on 08/16/2010 11:19:34 AM PDT by 31R1O
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To: sickoflibs

The military is a macho environment that appeals more to straight men and lesbians.


10 posted on 08/16/2010 11:19:39 AM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: 31R1O

Back in my day the story was that if you told your company commander that you were a queer that he’d unzip and say, “Prove it or get back to work”.


11 posted on 08/16/2010 11:24:12 AM PDT by B4Ranch (America was founded by MARKSMEN, not Marxists.)
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To: sickoflibs

How many use it as an excuse for a discharge?

I have no problem with gays and lesbians serving as long as they keep the sex out of the barracks and certain aspects of their behavior at bay when they are serving.

There should be no sex in the barracks or sexual activities and that includes everyone in the service.


12 posted on 08/16/2010 11:24:57 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: sickoflibs

Women and battery sales must affected!


13 posted on 08/16/2010 11:26:18 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Spok

Your answer is obviously the truth. Lesbians are more likely to be ‘butch’ and gays are ‘fairies’. Butch more likely to be able to fight.


14 posted on 08/16/2010 11:26:25 AM PDT by Bayou Dittohead
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Among those ousted for being gay: seven combat engineers, eight linguists, 20 infantrymen and 16 medical aides.

If you ask me, those are some cunning linguists.

15 posted on 08/16/2010 11:34:37 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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Where else are they gonna get Females who want to be Soldiers?


16 posted on 08/16/2010 11:41:41 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: sickoflibs

“The military is a macho environment that appeals more to straight men and lesbians.”


My thoughts, too.
I’ve was in the military 28 years and I never heard of a homosexual being kicked out for talking... but because of doing...
- Lesbian who cut her wrists got the notice she wanted, only then did the women in her baracks say she was rubbing her breasts against them, etc; the other women were putting up with it rather than reporting it
- Homosexual who knowingly transmitted AIDS to another homosexual got arrested for this illegal activity, got noticed, and not in a way he wanted
- Wikileaks leaker, a homosexual, mad at the miliatary’s homosexual policy, wanted to hurt the military


17 posted on 08/16/2010 11:44:45 AM PDT by RCFlyer
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To: 31R1O
This article also does not address how many of these people intentionally let their sexualorientation be know in order to get out of the service without completing their contract. Back when I was in, a person could get out fairly quickly by saying they were gay.

I wonder if anybody is keeping statistics of how often this happens just after unit deployment to Iraq/Afghanistan is announced?

18 posted on 08/16/2010 11:47:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: 31R1O; Liberty Valance
When I was overseas my entire company would have claimed to be gay if we thought it would get us back to the World.

Of course, if we'd had to prove it we'd have grumbled and gone back to work.

We had a black guy who dressed up in a wig and women's clothes when he was off duty. This was way before Cpl Klinger on MASH.

One day the CO got us together and asked us whether we felt comfortable with a cross-dresser in the barracks. Everyone to a man said that it was just wrong. When the CO asked for specifics everybody pointed out that his makeup was horrible and that he was using too much foundation and his lipstick clashed with his eyes and skin tone. Then it was pointed out that he was just awful at accessorizing... he'd wear poka dot dresses with plaid handbags.

Then there was a heated argument, which I think was about whether heels or pumps were appropriate for evening wear. At some point the CO just walked off shaking his head.

Draftees, God bless ‘em. The CO was a draftee too.

19 posted on 08/16/2010 11:50:42 AM PDT by Brucifer (Proud member of the Double Secret Reloading Underground.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Among the other ways to read the data, are that lesbians join the service at a higher percentage of their gender then male homosexuals...

That's certainly how I read it.

20 posted on 08/16/2010 12:12:21 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY ("The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen." -Dennis Prager)
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