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'Birther Queen' Taitz Vows to Keep Fighting After Supreme Court Denies Appeal
Talking Points Memo ^ | 8/16/10 | Ryan J. Reilly

Posted on 08/16/2010 2:46:09 PM PDT by detritus

So-called "Birther Queen" Orly Taitz hadn't yet heard about the Supreme Court's decision to uphold a $20,000 fine against her when TPMMuckraker reached her on Monday.

But Taitz told TPMMuckraker she is convinced that none of the members of the court read her request, and that clerks made the decision for the justices...

A federal judge's October 2009 ruling required Taitz, a lawyer and dentist who has filed several suits claiming President Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen, to pay the fine for filing "frivolous" litigation. Taitz was attempting to misuse the federal court system to push her political agenda, the judge said...

Taitz said reports that there was a lien on her house were untrue, and that she would be able to cover the $20,000 fine with donations from her supporters. "I have means to pay, the public is collecting funds," Taitz said. She said she received $3,500 in four or five days. "Within a month, I will have the $20,000," Taitz said. "Most of them are contributing maybe $20, $25 dollars, there's a lot of support."...

As she did last year, Taitz on Monday once again compared herself to Nelson Mandela. "Nelson Mandela was in prison for years, he went against the regime, but ultimately he prevailed," Taitz said. The fine, said Taitz, "was means of intimidation and harassment."...

(Excerpt) Read more at tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birther; birthers; certifigate; illegalbastard; illegalresident; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; orlytaitz; taitz
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Taitz on Monday once again compared herself to Nelson Mandela

LOL!

1 posted on 08/16/2010 2:46:13 PM PDT by detritus
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To: detritus

Sigh...

The stupid, it hurts.


2 posted on 08/16/2010 2:48:47 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: detritus

The Democrats favorite birther.


3 posted on 08/16/2010 2:49:36 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: detritus

Asking the Constitution be upheld by checking an ID is now considered frivolous and a political agenda??

Then why did they demand McCain fulfill the requirement??


4 posted on 08/16/2010 2:50:35 PM PDT by sten
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To: El Sordo
But Taitz told TPMMuckraker she is convinced that none of the members of the court read her request, and that clerks made the decision for the justices.

"Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep"--
Buffalo Springfield, "For What It's Worth"

5 posted on 08/16/2010 2:52:00 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: detritus

“Taitz on Monday once again compared herself to Nelson Mandela”

Wait! It just hit me!

She’s saying that she’s a communist.


6 posted on 08/16/2010 2:53:35 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
LOL

However, I associate a different song with Orly Taitz:

And they're coming to take me away ha-haaa
They're coming to take me away ho ho hee hee ha haaa
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see those nice young men
In their clean white coats
And they're coming to take me away ha haaa
--Napoleon XIV

7 posted on 08/16/2010 2:56:50 PM PDT by detritus
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To: detritus
Taitz said reports that there was a lien on her house were untrue, and that she would be able to cover the $20,000 fine with donations from her supporters

"It's ridiculous!" said Taitz. "My fans will up the dollars!"

Taitz, in a rare calm mood said "I don't even HAVE a house!
"I'm staying at the County facility! Lien indeed! ESQ!"

When asked for clarification, Taitz began drooling and the interview was terminated.

8 posted on 08/16/2010 2:57:15 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: detritus

Hey NOOBie, why don’t you post your articles over at Democratic Underground? It appears that you enjoy making fun of the birth certificate issue.

They will love you.


9 posted on 08/16/2010 2:59:46 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: detritus

She may be a little kookie , but she has more gonads than anybody in the Republican party .


10 posted on 08/16/2010 3:00:32 PM PDT by sushiman (1)
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To: sushiman
She may be a little kookie , but she has more gonads than anybody in the Republican party .

Are you confusing her the woman who is actually doing something constructive in court? Jan Brewer?

11 posted on 08/16/2010 3:05:31 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: sushiman

Agreed and I am all for “a death by a thousand paper cuts”


12 posted on 08/16/2010 3:06:21 PM PDT by Finatic ("you see kids were so much wiser after the wars")
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To: sushiman

It is noteworthy that first Justice Clarence Thomas denied her request, then Alito referred it to the whole court, and they denied her motion. If Taitz can’t get support from Thomas and Alito, she is clearly barking up the wrong tree. She has to pay her fine, $20,000.


13 posted on 08/16/2010 3:13:17 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: detritus

I’m not going to say anything negative about Orly. I wish she had experienced more success than she did, but that was not to be.


14 posted on 08/16/2010 3:15:24 PM PDT by chris37
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To: humblegunner

I wonder if the United Nations has gotten back to Orly on her request to take control of the American legal system?


15 posted on 08/16/2010 3:18:10 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: detritus

From an earlier thread today.....

Have you even taken the time to read one page of Dr. Taitz’ motions? How do you know the “clerks” in the Supreme Court are not guilty of altering records? I, for a fact, have spoken directly with Mr. Eric Fossum on July 27 2010, a clerk in the Supreme Court when Dr. Taitz first heard of Justice Alito allegedly denying her motion. She discovered that not only were her documents not entered into the log of the Court, there was no “Official” signature by Justice Alito, or any other Justice. When I asked Mr. Fossum if this was true, he initially told me “A clerk signed it” and when I tried to question him further by asking him “Is this the same as a “Real Justice” signing the documents”he was something less than forthcoming in his answers and finally told me”I’m not going to go down this road any more any more”, and hung up on me.

It appears, to use a metaphor, “The Patients Are Running the Asylum”. Translated: “The clerks Are Running the Supreme Court and the Justices Are Nothing More Than Spectators. As someone who posts here said earlier “He’s alright with that”.

I find it very troubling that people are trying to defend the corruption in all 3 branches of what’s left of our government... Dr. Taitz is absolutely correct in her efforts at exposing the Supreme Court and it’s clerks who appear to be complicit in the ongoing stonewalling we see every day. Have any of these “apologists” for Obama considered the thought that if he is in fact a usurper to the office of President, each and every order he has signed or will sign will be nullified and we then will be subject to the wrath of just about every country in addition to the thought that many brave soldiers fighting and will die wrongful deaths under his unlawful command. This is unacceptable.


16 posted on 08/16/2010 3:19:05 PM PDT by MODELSHIPS
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To: detritus

Talking Points Memo?? Sniff...


17 posted on 08/16/2010 3:23:29 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: detritus

I appreciate what Taitz tried to do.


18 posted on 08/16/2010 3:28:54 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ConservativeMind

What did he post that wasn’t a fact?

You can’t call the truth truth unless you have some minimun
number of years ranting in here?


19 posted on 08/16/2010 3:34:18 PM PDT by rahbert (catfish on the table, gospel in the air.)
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To: ConservativeMind
Hey NOOBie, why don’t you post your articles over at Democratic Underground?

Like everyone else said. Your animated gay rainbow graphic make the page load slow.

It appears that you enjoy making fun of the birth certificate issue.

Making fun of Taitz is easy.
When "normal" people get involved, one has to wonder about
psychoactive chemicals in the water source. Or Zombies. Always check for Zombies.

20 posted on 08/16/2010 3:37:12 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: sten
Then why did they demand McCain fulfill the requirement??

Who are "they," and when did they make this demand?

21 posted on 08/16/2010 3:41:05 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: DannyTN

Ditto. I’ve read some of her pleadings and they’re technically deficient in many ways. Judges don’t take kindly to violations of their court rules. While I think she’s on the right track, she really needs to hire a good paralegal or legal secretary who’s familiar with that sort of thing to help her out ... and while she’s at it, maybe cut back on the caffeine or something. And — said it before, but I’ll say it again — if he has nothing to hide, why is he spending so much $$ hiding it?


22 posted on 08/16/2010 3:45:15 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (We'll remember in November!)
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To: humblegunner
Or Zombies. Always check for Zombies.

Makes me proud to be a Texan...


23 posted on 08/16/2010 3:46:17 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: detritus

I smell a ZOT.


24 posted on 08/16/2010 3:47:25 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: sten
"Asking the Constitution be upheld by checking an ID is now considered frivolous and a political agenda??"

The birther's aren't trying to uphold the Constitution. And that's not what was frivolous. Taitz's nutjob filings are what's frivolous.

25 posted on 08/16/2010 3:47:25 PM PDT by mlo
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To: PA Engineer
I smell a ZOT.

Ping a moderator...make your best case.

28 posted on 08/16/2010 3:50:12 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: detritus

Psych Dr. is talking to his patient.

“Why do you think you are Napoleon?”

“Because God told me I was!” he answered.

A voice from a couple beds over screams “No I didn’t!”.


30 posted on 08/16/2010 3:52:52 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: curiosity

‘they’ were the drive-by media in the spring of 2008... Abc, CBS, NBC, CNN, cnbc, etc. They started that once it became obvious he was going to win the GOP nomination

After McCain handed over the info, and he was ruled as eligible, the furor died down around April timeframe. In June 2008, they asked 0bama for the same information, once it was clear he would have the nomination. He has not complied to the request yet... And has a spent $2.9m to keep people from getting the information

Really, a 10 second google could have answered the question


31 posted on 08/16/2010 3:54:11 PM PDT by sten
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To: MODELSHIPS
Have you even taken the time to read one page of Dr. Taitz’ motions? How do you know the “clerks” in the Supreme Court are not guilty of altering records?

You never see anything from the Supreme Court with an ink signature from a Justice-- not in Orly's case, not in any case. All you ever get is a letter from the Clerk of the Court (who is a permanent official, not a Justice's law clerk-- Orly seems to be confused between the two positions), saying that the Court denied a motion or denied certiorari.

33 posted on 08/16/2010 3:57:15 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: PA Engineer

Wobal glarming queen fixated on teabags.


34 posted on 08/16/2010 3:58:31 PM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: mlo

The Constitution is fairly clear on this matter. If expecting it be adhered to makes one a birther...

I have no problem being a birther


35 posted on 08/16/2010 3:58:33 PM PDT by sten
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To: sten
In June 2008, they asked 0bama for the same information, once it was clear he would have the nomination.

He made a paper copy of his certification of live birth available for inspection at his campaign office. Factcheck staffers took pictures and posted them on the internet. In contrast, while McCain showed a hard copy to a reporter, he never allowed it to be photographed and posted.

If that's not enough, Hawaii's department of health director publicly stated that Obama's vital record shows he was born in Hawaii.

If that doesn't satisfy you, nothing will, which is why he isn't going to give you more.

And has a spent $2.9m to keep people from getting the information

That is simply not true. It amazes me how unverified rumors get accepted as if they were gospel truth around here.

36 posted on 08/16/2010 4:01:48 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: sten
In June 2008, they asked 0bama for the same information, once it was clear he would have the nomination.

He made a paper copy of his certification of live birth available for inspection at his campaign office. Factcheck staffers took pictures and posted them on the internet. In contrast, while McCain showed a hard copy to a reporter, he never allowed it to be photographed and posted.

If that's not enough, Hawaii's department of health director publicly stated that Obama's vital record shows he was born in Hawaii.

If that doesn't satisfy you, nothing will, which is why he isn't going to give you more.

And has a spent $2.9m to keep people from getting the information

That is simply not true. It amazes me how unverified rumors get accepted as if they were gospel truth around here.

37 posted on 08/16/2010 4:01:59 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Really, you should understand something before emoting your feelings on the subject. Emoting twice does not make your feelings reality

A certificate of live birth is not the same as a birth certificate. I really don’t have to go into the differences... You should do your homework

As for the health director...that’s simply not what was said. Saying they have birth records, is not the same as saying they indicate he was born there.

As for the cost, talk to Perkins coie


39 posted on 08/16/2010 4:14:16 PM PDT by sten
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Uh oh, a zot seems to have received the enthusiastic aid of some regulars. So easily sucked in. What does that say about their judgment?


40 posted on 08/16/2010 4:39:05 PM PDT by wistful
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To: MODELSHIPS

“As someone who posts here said earlier “He’s alright with that”.”

Who said that?


41 posted on 08/16/2010 4:44:39 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: rahbert

I give up. You tell me what he posted that wasn’t a “fact”. I wasn’t questioning that, RahBert.

My issue is with gloating over issues among those who give a damn about the authenticity of anyone for public office. McCain submitted his birth certificate for review. Other decent people running for the office of President have, too. Why not your friend, “0”?


42 posted on 08/16/2010 4:50:30 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

“My friend 0” of whom you speak rode into office on a greased rail. My guess is that “my friend 0” knew that
it doesn’t matter as long as he wins the election.

You sound like you are bitter and dissapointed that a
determined socialist and communist would not submit his BC.

I suggest you grow up and learn to defeat your enemies before they get elected into office, not after.

He won, and now it doesn’t matter. No amount of Orly Taitz
legal briefs can change that. Pray that our side does better
in 2012.


43 posted on 08/16/2010 5:01:57 PM PDT by rahbert (catfish on the table, gospel in the air.)
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To: sten
As for the cost, talk to Perkins coie

You made the claim that Obama "has spent $2.9m to keep people from getting the information". You should be able to offer some proof.

That Perkins Coie firm is helping with tax compliance issues for the entire Obama family as well as being involved with the administrations entanglements with the Blagojevich trial. (They have a rather large office in Chicago that includes former federal prosecutors.) There is zero evidence that payments made to Perkins Coie have anything to do with birther cases. Chances are, some of it was spent on some birther issues, but the $2.9 million "to keep people from getting the information" is completely made up.

There is no public information available to ascertain which cases those funds were distributed to within the law firm. Even WND admits they don't know.

44 posted on 08/16/2010 5:44:54 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: detritus

Regardless of what anyone feels about Orly Taitz, why should we expect a court that can’t even protect human life capable of making consistent rational decisions.

The Supreme Court is a crap shoot, and has been for decades.

Rule of law has become law of rulers.

So if anyone here is saying, “see, the Supreme Court said so,” as some kind of justification for your own position, I feel sorry for you.


45 posted on 08/16/2010 6:01:47 PM PDT by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: sten
‘they’ were the drive-by media in the spring of 2008... Abc, CBS, NBC, CNN, cnbc, etc. They started that once it became obvious he was going to win the GOP nomination

I could be mistaken, but I don't think ANY of those particular news outlets had anything to say about McCain's eligibility. And those that did (NYTimes, WSJ, Washington Post), they ran stories about the Constitutional question, but those stories were all pretty heavily on McCain's side.

After McCain handed over the info,

McCain didn't hand over any info.

In June 2008, they asked 0bama for the same information, once it was clear he would have the nomination.

This is wrong in two respects. One, because McCain didn't hand over anything, Obama couldn't have been asked for "the same information." Two, while a few in the media did ask Obama to produce a birth certificate starting June 9, the COLB was posted on June 12, and every rational person in the media was satisfied.

And has a spent $2.9m to keep people from getting the information

Except he hasn't. Like Tex said, that's a made-up number. Really, a 10 second Google search would have shown you that's wrong.

46 posted on 08/16/2010 6:40:02 PM PDT by LorenC
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To: sten
"The Constitution is fairly clear on this matter."

Yes it is.

"If expecting it be adhered to makes one a birther..."

It doesn't. Expecting it to be adhered to, regardless of political desires, makes one an anti-birther. It's the birthers that want to dispense with the Constitution.

47 posted on 08/16/2010 7:35:03 PM PDT by mlo
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To: sten
"A certificate of live birth is not the same as a birth certificate. I really don’t have to go into the differences... You should do your homework."

Apparently, you shouldn't be the one giving homework advice.

A "birth certificate" is a general name for a document that certifies the facts of birth. It has no one specific form. A "certificate of live birth" is one possible specific title for a birth certificate. It could also be titled one of several variations on the theme. They are all specific examples of the class, "birth certificate".

48 posted on 08/16/2010 7:39:04 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Tex-Con-Man

You are beginning to become wrapped around the axle in your zeal to defend Obama.


49 posted on 08/16/2010 7:49:26 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: saltus

They made Thomas an offer he couldn’t refuse .


50 posted on 08/16/2010 9:04:53 PM PDT by sushiman (1)
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