Skip to comments.Mark Levin Slams Chris Christie on 9/11 Mosque
Posted on 08/16/2010 7:01:35 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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Governor Christie was alreadu soft on illegal alien immigration, but I was sure willing to hear him better articulate his positions and now I’m reading on other related threads that he’s soft on the 2nd Amendment.
I’d like to hear from the man himself on the aforementioned issues, but he’s not looking as good as I thought yesterday. This one was easy, and he failed miserably.
There's a whole longer list, including lots of other religions spots.
I'm sorry, those who cite the constitution as a suicide pact need to go move to Mecca and try to go build a libertarian hall.......
Well, I *can’t* live with Christie’s comments. SHAME ON HIM, that a Governor of New Jersey should have such an attitude!
9/11 is about America, first and foremost. It’s also about New York and NEW JERSEY.
How many of those 3,000 innocent people were from Jersey? When all public transportation was halted, Jersey Transit coming in from the Hudson to the World Trade Center was impacted. Many people were rescued from lower Manhattan (remember the choaking dust plumes?) by ferries to Jersey. How many watched the Twin Towers burn and collapse from the Jersey shoreline?
Christie’s reaction reminds me of Dukakis’ bloodlessly well reasoned answer to the debate question regarding his possible attitude towards capital punishment if his wife was ever raped and murdered.
Well, I’m not throwing the dude overbord yet, but that was kind of pathetic and very far from what we’ve seen from him to date.
Thanks, Mark. You are right again.
Such a shame that Christie doesn’t realize the damage he is doing to America by ignoring the immigration issue and the rule of law and ignoring the unconstitutional elements of the religion of “peace”.
Define peace: When everyone bows to allah and gets rid of the American constitution and practice sharia law......
Think of the future and your children, Christie. This country was designed for freedom and the Rule of Law, not slavery and chaos.
Christie’s first REALLY big major MISSTEP.
DUMB. Stupid. Hope he got it out of his system.
Additionally it further splits Americans and almost requires them to take sides. Mr. Obama is a professional splitter and further division and fragmentation is the last thing America needs at this time.
The fact is the whole issue consists of opinions and one person's guess is as good is the next and it is a terrible thing to waste time on a bunch of opinions which may or may not be correct and even if one side of the other proves correct we can all be sure there will be unintended consequences which we can ill afford.
And the best part of the mess is that there is no way on earth that any one can reasonably predict the outcome----so why in the world should anyone except New Yorkers waste precious time?
If our poor president was not such a narcissist throwing caution to the wind in order to get "face time" and or "air space" he should have had the brains to know this is the kind of battle that hangs men on their own petards.
I wonder if his entering the fray might just be his Waterloo and truly Divine Intervention.
“The leaders of anti-Mosque hysteria remind me of my Nervous Nellie sensitive PC friends who are endlessly offended by everything including smokers, wavers of Confederate flags, people posing in pictures with guns, etc. A price of free speech and property rights is that you will sometime have your feelings hurt. The anti-Mosque crusaders need to man up and be more thick skinned.”
I wouldn’t say offended, since that cheapens the outrage most Americans feel on this issue.
I have personally spent much time studying verses from the Qu’ran. The Qu’ran, unlike the Bible, which had multiple authors, was written by one lone man, living in a cave. A man who took child brides. A man who not only gave permission for jihad, a man who demanded it of his followers. So for me, it’s not just this mosque, it is all of them, especially in America. Since our American belief system, and our political system, is utterly incompatible with the teachings of Mohammed. So why are they here at all?
I’ll tell you why.
They are here in smaller number for now. So they pretend to be friends, and peace loving. But in the years ahead, as they become larger in number, they will become bolder. More and more demands will be placed on America to accomodate them, and their “religion.” As we all know, this process has already begun.
America, as a one of the largest majority Christian nations, is the ultimate target for Islam. So they come here in peace pretending to be friends, planting seeds, growing in numbers, and building mosques. All the while taking advantage of our laws, and our PC’ness.
They are not here because our belief system, our economic system, and our political system is compatible with theirs.
They are here to fulfill Mohammed’s command. To convert the world to Islam, to rule the entire world under Sharia law.
If they can conquer America, the rest of the world will fold easily.
Are you willing to take this chance? If so, then it’s time you began studying the Qu’ran. As you do, keep in mind that Mohammed had a rule. Whatever he said later in verses contradicting himself in his earlier teachings, was the new law.
We should be all outraged. We are under attack.
I see leftists and Islamists as the same thing. Yes, in many ways the left is more dangerous.
DITTO TO YOUR STATEMENT!
Oooh, you’re GOOD! I like your style -— revolutionary “wife”
And yes, she is a breath of fresh air and honesty!
I’m very happy you’re on Sarah’s ping list!!!!
I’m glad to be here, too, onyx. It’s good to be in the company of like minded people. And for the opportunity to “tweak the twits” in OUR White House. And to crush them.
Yep, like-minded, that’s us! It’s late for me. I have to sign off. Thanks for being here!!!
“Mr. Christie, you will not be allowed to vote present on this, and neither will anyone else.”
He didn’t just vote present - he also called you and me and anyone else that’s taken a position useful idiots of our parties.
Chris Christie is not the conservative the RINOs made him out to be. First is was endorsing Illegal Alien Amnesty....now its pandering to Muslims.
Good for Levin to step up and call out Christie. Wonder if the other talkers will do the same
It’s tempting to look at Obama’s actions as trying to create division, but I think that’s giving him too much credit. He has his Marxist agenda, but beyond that his decisions have proven to be wrong time and again. You could attribute it to inexperience, bad advisers, or lack of a real education in the American experience. He doesn’t want to alienate voters, he just doesn’t know how not to. His beliefs and values are out of sync with non-Marxists and he relies on those beliefs to make decisions. Making decisions is hard for Obama. He is slow in making them and always tries to hedge his bets.
Here’s what he could have said- Muslims, members of your faith declared war on America and attacked our country on 9/11. These attacks were made in the name of Islam. Muslim communities either erupted into celebration of the attack, or had to be restrained by their governments from showing too much approval. Over 3000 people were killed in the attacks on our country. The people who planned these attacks were given refuge by other Muslims. Nearly ten years later, these men are still being hidden from justice. The Koran says that these men should be punished for killing innocent people including other Muslims. We consider that the state of war declared by the attackers still exists and will continue to exist until Muslims surrender the planners of the 9-11 attacks and cease all attacks on Western Civilization.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans lost friends or relatives in those attacks. Millions of people worldwide were affected by them. Construction of a mosque on property that was damaged in the attack at the World Trade Center will not heal the wounds caused. There is unfinished business that must be taken care of, the surrender of the attackers and the halting of hostility against the United States. Until that occurs, we remain at war.
This is the problem with the “fiscal, conservative; social liberal crowd” Your long term fiscal situation is a manifestation of the moral/social order. Class warfare, pervasive drug abuse, high taxes and lack of accountability in government spending are signs of go along pubbies. Allowing a mosque at ground zero is going to drive up NYC security costs and drive out business.
Christie has done a hellava good job since coming into office, gaining support and recognition.
And right on cue he does something or says something totally out of sync with not only conservatives and moderates, but also a bunch of democrats in this case, 70-30 oppose the damn thing.
It should be expected that any leading Republican will continue this pattern.
We must correct even the good guys when they are wrong... and Mark is right... he is almost always right!
The goal of Islam is world domination and not just murder but genocide after the world is conquered:
“Christie is more right than Levin. The Muslims have a right to build a mosque ANYWHERE as long as there is a willing seller and no contracts are violated.”
Not if this is a national historical site, which Congress could make it. Or if the local zoning boeard decides not to permit it.
You probably think it is OK to put up the Rising Sun within a block of the graveyard of the Arizona in Pearl Harbor. How about flying the swastika over Arlington? Maybe right next to the graves of the men murdered at Malmedy? As long as teh flags are on private property. Let’s not tinker with property rights. /sarc/
That is where you Libertarians lose me. Patriotism is not your strong suit.
“Those who want to destroy their property rights are only creating a precedent for big brother to do the same to them.”
It isn’t doing anything of the kind. They can build the mosque in a hundred thousand other locations. Is someone losing a property right if they can’t build a porn theatre across from St. Patrick’s cathedral in NY? Yes. Does it threatened everyone’s property rights? Only in the blinkered imagination of the libertarian theoretician.
“Property rights and free speech dont extend to those whose well-known and oft-stated goal is the destruction of our nation, its people, and the crushing of liberty.”
Well said. Very well said indeed.
“Christies reaction reminds me of Dukakis bloodlessly well reasoned answer to the debate question regarding his possible attitude towards capital punishment if his wife was ever raped and murdered.”
tha is a good analogy. I remember that too. Christie is politically tone deaf...and gutless. But most of all he lacks the sense of outrage that regular Americans have. He seems to be cozying up to the Elites alreadyand he has only been in office for a few months.
I see you switched from Mitt to the new RINO of the month..Daniels.
The “reality show” terminology was deployed by the sophomoric fools on your side. In actuality, the show was planned to be more of a promotional series, highlighting the wonders of Alaska.
“or from another book of hers with spelling errors everywhere?”
I read her book, and any spelling errors were few and far between. Actually I don't recall any. In any case that would be the responsibility of her editors, not her as the author.
Seriously, is that all you've got? Can't you clowns ever do any better in slamming Sarah Palin?
She scares the crap out of you people doesn't she?
I heard a Democrat on Fox this AM touting Christie’s mosque comments. Thanks Gov Christie for giving the left cover!
Of course, they could do that to YOUR property too. Since you would have already cast aside the principle of property rights, you would have no credible defense, would you? If you claimed your case was "different" the powers-that-be would roll their eyes and snicker. You remind me of my PC friends who are constantly "offended" by everything ranging from smokers to CSA flags. Sometimes having your "feelings" hurt is the price of freedom.
Then according to the logic of that theory millions of anti-liberty Obamaites and socialists should be deprived of free speech. Such an approach will make the French Revolution look like a picnic.
Gov. Christie is correct. And Mark Levin is beginning to remind me more and more of Sean Hannity.
You’re dangerously naive, at best.
It's amazing that you think the Islamists simply "hurt our feelings." Most folks know that they killed 3000 of our fellow citizens dead.
And they would kill the other 300 million given the opportunity and ability.
And your sort of mush-minded misunderstanding of what liberty entails would help them do it.
Let me restate: the movement to SELECTIVELY deny are HALLOWED property and first amendment rights to ALL Muslims represents the the conservative counterpart of PC emotional/Nervous Nellie blind hysteria. I have black friends who make a similar case for bannning the Confederate flag (look at those millions who died in the slave trade!) or smokers who want to ban depictions of smokers in the movies (look at all those millions who have died of smoking creating disease!). Watch it: emotions, "feelings," and the blind hysteria of the momenet (as this is) may be your friend now but they will be your enemy tomorrow.
Naive? That better applies to someone who wants to give our big government tyrants a blank check to deny first amendment and property rights to one, and only one, group.
that’s “our HALLOWED”
A foreign death cult, the most destructive and tyrannical death cult in the history of mankind, one that, because of its statist, globalist aims also constitutes a virulent anti-liberty political ideology.
I guess you missed that part.
Do you also support Mayan human sacrifices of virgins on Times Square in the name of the First Amendment and property rights?
Hogwash. The commies and the Nazis killed far more people.
So, you admit that Islam is a political ideology like fascism and communism?
Christie is great in some ways, but no more than half the deal. Maybe he’ll develop over the next few years. At the moment he smells like a RINO to me.
What say you post this on its own thread? It’s long, but worthwhile:
EV, you might like the link in my prior post to Onyx.
I have a severe headache. I’m going to lie down until it goes away. You post it or ask STARWISE or one of our other very nice friends.
Starwise, can you put it up?