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Dr. Laura's Rant on Race Begs the Question: Just Who Needs a Doctor?
Aol/ Politics Daily ^ | 8/15/10 | MARY C. CURTIS

Posted on 08/16/2010 10:45:21 PM PDT by woofie

What kind of doctor is this woman, and why is she still on the radio?

After scrubbing her show's website of the foul rant that prompted outrage -- and lives on in audio and transcript form on Media Matters for America -- Laura Schlessinger apologized. "I articulated the N-word all the way out -- more than one time," she said. "And that was wrong."

Show's over; time to move on? I don't think so.

Professional to professional, Dr. Laura, let Dr. Mary explain why, as offensive as it was, saying the N-word is the least of your problems.

A young black woman calls into your show to get some actual advice about a specific problem: her white husband's family and friends insult her using racist terms and epithets. "My husband ignores those comments, and it hurts my feelings," the caller says.

So, of course, Dr. Laura, you start talking about -- President Barack Obama.

"Without giving much thought, a lot of blacks voted for Obama simply 'cause he was half-black," she said. "Didn't matter what he was gonna do in office, it was a black thing. You gotta know that."

Not only do you ignore the caller and change the subject to get to something that's obviously on your mind and in your heart, Dr. Laura, but you also insist you know the motivation of millions of black voters.

It's not the first time I've heard this ridiculous canard that black people voted for the president based simply on skin color. It assumes that only voters who aren't African-American use logic, reasoning and rational thought before reaching a conclusion. Maybe, just maybe, most African-American voters preferred the policies in the Democratic Party's platform. Did they vote overwhelmingly for Bill Clinton because they liked his smile?

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1 posted on 08/16/2010 10:45:24 PM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie

It doesn’t “beg the question,” it raises the question. If a so-called journalist doesn’t know the basic logical fallacies, then the rest of the his/her thoughts are equally vapid.

>>It’s not the first time I’ve heard this ridiculous canard that black people voted for the president based simply on skin color. It assumes that only voters who aren’t African-American use logic, reasoning and rational thought before reaching a conclusion.<<

90+ percent isn’t persuasive that the vote was completely based on skin color? Who is proposing a canard here? Anyone who says Blacks voting for obama wasn’t completely racially-based are using the Bugblatter Beast defense: It is so stupid that it thinks that if you can’t see it, it can’t see you.

Liberals are so dumb there isn’t even a measurement tool available to plumb the depths.


2 posted on 08/16/2010 11:02:15 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Either we have principles or we are just liberals following the winds a bit starboard...)
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To: woofie

“Dr” Laura (PhD in gym) is really a worthless collection of overstretched, worn out skin. She should only hope she’s best remembered for the porn she did and not for her advice, personality, or demeanor.


3 posted on 08/16/2010 11:06:48 PM PDT by stormer
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To: woofie

“Begs the question” used improperly, yet again, by someone who I’m sure considers herself quite sophisticated, thank you....


4 posted on 08/16/2010 11:12:42 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Heckuva job, Brownie!.)
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To: stormer

She’s smarter than you.


5 posted on 08/16/2010 11:14:13 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Either we have principles or we are just liberals following the winds a bit starboard...)
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To: freedumb2003

Dr. Laura leans conservative, so I’ll take a talk radio personality who is a Righty over a leftist any day. We need more conservative voices in the media.

I suspect that the only reason Dr. Laura’s is being attacked here is because she is to the right of Mary.


6 posted on 08/16/2010 11:22:10 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: stormer

I have listened to Dr. Laura for a number of years and she always understood the psychological needs of children, which was her forte. She had extremely sound and logical analysis of family situations.

I find the vitriol spewed at her and her “knowledge” has always come from two groups. Homosexuals and feminazis. It is because she believes in the natural rights of children (meaning they need to be raised by their biological mother and father) and believes that feminists and homosexuals are two extremely selfish groups who always put their profession or sexual lives on a higher level than the psychological and emotional needs of children.

Most damage to children has been done because of promiscuity, abandonment, and divorce and the emotional damage has been noted in suicides, drug use, out of wedlock births, and no ability to establish long term relationships.

She can not tolerate anyone who abuses children, and, like I said, her advice was always in the best interest of the child.


7 posted on 08/16/2010 11:24:56 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: freedumb2003

“90+ percent isn’t persuasive that the vote was completely based on skin color? Who is proposing a canard here? Anyone who says Blacks voting for obama wasn’t completely racially-based are using the Bugblatter Beast defense: It is so stupid that it thinks that if you can’t see it, it can’t see you.”

Actually 96% of the blacks voted for Dumb’O vs 80-85% that typically vote for white liberal candidates. But the real test of whether blacks vote for black candidates would be if some conservative like Thomas Sowell were to run. What percentage of black votes do you think he’d get if he were up against a white liberal like say Ed Kennedy?

I would guess it would be well below 50%.

I believe that politics (self interest) trumps everything - race, gender, religion.... Most blacks have been brainwashed into thinking that liberals care more about them than conservatives, so they will always vote for a liberal over a conservative, even if the conservative is black.


8 posted on 08/16/2010 11:26:20 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: This Just In

>>I suspect that the only reason Dr. Laura’s is being attacked here is because she is to the right of Mary.<<

I suspect you are right. Her commentary is generally pretty common-sense and always relates back to the best interests of the children.

The fact she spoke FACT about blacks voting for the TOTUS reader is unfortunate. Some facts should not be uttered.


9 posted on 08/16/2010 11:29:08 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Either we have principles or we are just liberals following the winds a bit starboard...)
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To: freedumb2003

I’m sure Mary wrote articles about all those liberals who have used the N-word too. /s

PC has fully saturated public discourse. Dr. Laura can speak her mind. She wasn’t hurling ad hominems, as her Leftist counterparts typically do. Dr. Laura was stating a fact. If the liberals wish to continue their effort to extinguish civil public discourse, by all means, knock yourselves out.

I salute Dr. Laura for her courage. She possesses more of it than many a Republican politician.


10 posted on 08/16/2010 11:38:46 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: woofie
I had to stop reading at the end of the excerpt. I could feel my brain getting dumber, the more I read. I need to find some Mark Steyn to jump start my brain cells before they atrophy.

It assumes that only voters who aren't African-American use logic, reasoning and rational thought before reaching a conclusion.

I'm sorry, but a group of voters who self identify by race and vote 95% for a party that continually undermines their individual pursuit of happiness, aren't applying logic and reason when voting.

11 posted on 08/16/2010 11:41:38 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Colin Powell voted for Obama.

Think he did that with his head, or with while looking into a mirror.


12 posted on 08/16/2010 11:43:00 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: freedumb2003

No, she isn’t.


13 posted on 08/16/2010 11:45:37 PM PDT by stormer
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To: woofie

She wimped out. So she said Kneegar, wow, blacks say this a million times a day. She should have stood her ground. She didn’t attack anyone with it, she was showing she had the right to say it, trying to prove that the first amendment is not just for blacks, but white people also.

But she wimped out.


14 posted on 08/16/2010 11:48:48 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: stormer

She has a nationally syndicated show worth millions and has published a slew of books that have probably pulled in the tens of millions.

I will take a run and suggest you have not achieved anything close. You probably just work 9-5 in a decent and maybe rewarding job that feeds you and your family. That is my situation so feel free to tell the truth.

Or are you a fabulously successful author who is is lurking and not letting any of us know of your true identity?

Or are you just smart but not successful because The Man has held you down?


15 posted on 08/16/2010 11:55:57 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Either we have principles or we are just liberals following the winds a bit starboard...)
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To: savagesusie

The woman is a fraud. She purports to give family advice while she is estranged from her own; is sanctimonious about relationships while she herself has been a serial adulterer and home-wrecker; and is highly critical of those whose moral standards are beneath her own even though she posed nude for her then-married boyfriend and was pregnant at her own second wedding. I wouldn’t wipe with a picture of her.


16 posted on 08/16/2010 11:56:47 PM PDT by stormer
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To: TomasUSMC

>>She wimped out. So she said Kneegar, wow, blacks say this a million times a day. She should have stood her ground. She didn’t attack anyone with it, she was showing she had the right to say it, trying to prove that the first amendment is not just for blacks, but white people also.

But she wimped out.<<

When I heard her apology today I sort of felt the same. But I never heard the original material so I just couldn’t (nor can) offer an opinion...


17 posted on 08/16/2010 11:57:45 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Either we have principles or we are just liberals following the winds a bit starboard...)
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To: stormer

I got you now — you just a hater.


18 posted on 08/16/2010 11:58:43 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Either we have principles or we are just liberals following the winds a bit starboard...)
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To: aquila48
Actually 96% of the blacks voted for Dumb’O vs 80-85% that typically vote for white liberal candidates. But the real test of whether blacks vote for black candidates would be if some conservative like Thomas Sowell were to run. What percentage of black votes do you think he’d get if he were up against a white liberal like say Ed Kennedy?

Anybody who votes based on skin color is a racist. Doesn't matter the color of the voter.

19 posted on 08/16/2010 11:59:18 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: freedumb2003

If you equate monetary success with intelligence, then I guess you haven’t been paying very close attention to the last 50 or 60 years of American culture. HL Mencken said it best: “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”


20 posted on 08/17/2010 12:00:54 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

>>If you equate monetary success with intelligence, then I guess you haven’t been paying very close attention to the last 50 or 60 years of American culture. HL Mencken said it best: “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”<<

IOW you are a loser and she is a winner and your jealousy of her success is on your sleeve.

Understandable (if unenviable).


21 posted on 08/17/2010 12:05:32 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Either we have principles or we are just liberals following the winds a bit starboard...)
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To: freedumb2003

No. I just despise hypocrisy and the fact that she is an emotional mercenary. She is a parasite that feeds on stupid, needy people.


22 posted on 08/17/2010 12:06:14 AM PDT by stormer
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To: aquila48

Just ask Alan Keyes.


23 posted on 08/17/2010 12:07:32 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: freedumb2003

You’re the one who brought up money - not me.


24 posted on 08/17/2010 12:08:43 AM PDT by stormer
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To: woofie
It's not the first time I've heard this ridiculous canard that black people voted for the president based simply on skin color.
Mary, Mary, why be so contrary?
Blacks didn't vote for him 'cause he's hairy.
Here's some articles that you can read.
Maybe they'll break through your screed.
It's not a canard if in fact it's true.
Is that too hard to comprehend for you?

Amazing Race How post-racial was Obama’s victory? Boston Review
Closer examination of exit polls points to a surprising conclusion. Obama won because of race—because of his particular appeal among black voters, because of the changing political allegiances of Hispanics, and because he did not provoke a backlash among white voters.

Who voted for Obama? BBC
He won 95% of the black vote, compared to just 4% for Mr McCain.

25 posted on 08/17/2010 12:10:35 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

I kinda think it was the last time that will happen


26 posted on 08/17/2010 12:12:42 AM PDT by woofie
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To: stormer

>>No. I just despise hypocrisy and the fact that she is an emotional mercenary. She is a parasite that feeds on stupid, needy people.<<

That explains why you listen to her — the gang of thugs who jump in your car or house and turn the dial to her broadcast and then chain you to the radio.


27 posted on 08/17/2010 12:13:13 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Either we have principles or we are just liberals following the winds a bit starboard...)
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To: freedumb2003
Charles Payne from the Fox Business Channel admitted to voting for Zero based on his skin color. As I recall, his words were something like, "I felt I owed it to Rosa Parks." Charles is a extremely bright guy and a heck of a stock picker. He was systematically abused by his peers in the black community because he wanted to grow up to be a businessman (what was characterized as a white job) and because he didn't speak with a black accent. I was distraught to learn that such a wise and perservering person would stoop so low as to vote for Zero, but his loyalty to his skin color obviously overwhelmed his common sense. He now is not shy about blaming the Zero administration for its anti-business actions, and I sincerely hope he does not make the same mistake again.

The point is that if someone like Charles voted for Zero because of skin color, it is not surprising to learn that skin color was a big motive for many black voters in 2008. After all, the Black Panther who was wielding a weapon in from of the polling place on election day made it clear that skin color was the issue du jour. And, I have no doubt that many non-black voters were similarly motivated by skin color to vote for Zero. The last two years have demonstrated how poor a decision can be when it is based on skin color.

For what it is worth, I voted against Zero, not because of his skin color, but because of his Marxism and because, given he is likely an illegal alien, I do not believe he is qualified to hold office.

28 posted on 08/17/2010 12:15:07 AM PDT by skookum55 ("Why is the market going down? Because communism isn't bullish." Unknown trader, CNBC, July 2010.)
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To: stormer

>>You’re the one who brought up money - not me.<

Very few stupid people who are not sports stars make millions of dollars. If she is smart enough to make that kind of money and you are not, she is probably a lot smarter than you are.

Heck, her cat is probably smarter than you are. Mine was.


29 posted on 08/17/2010 12:15:11 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Either we have principles or we are just liberals following the winds a bit starboard...)
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To: philman_36
He won 95% of the black vote, compared to just 4% for Mr McCain.

Thank God for Larry Elder and a few other Blacks of principle else it would have been 100%. And it was all about skin color

30 posted on 08/17/2010 12:18:00 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Either we have principles or we are just liberals following the winds a bit starboard...)
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To: woofie
I kinda think it was the last time that will happen
I agree. Black people hate getting punked more than any other people I know.
31 posted on 08/17/2010 12:22:41 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: freedumb2003
And it was all about skin color
Of course it was. Anybody saying differently, like Mary, is simply delusional.

2 a : something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated b : a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary

32 posted on 08/17/2010 12:27:49 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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33 posted on 08/17/2010 12:32:38 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: woofie

Mary C. Curtis needs a doctor. Big time.


34 posted on 08/17/2010 12:35:24 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: philman_36
I won’t have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won’t have to worry about paying my mortgage
35 posted on 08/17/2010 12:35:36 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Either we have principles or we are just liberals following the winds a bit starboard...)
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To: skookum55
He now is not shy about blaming the Zero administration for its anti-business actions, and I sincerely hope he does not make the same mistake again.

I'll bet he will vote for Obama again. I bet a friend that Obama would get over 95% of the Black Vote. He said that was crazy and Obama would only get 85% of Black Vote, slightyl higher than what white Democrats get in a presidential election. He had to pay up 50 Bills. I knew Obama would get 95% of Black Vote. It was as predictable as the sun rising in the East.

No matter how bad of shape the US Economy is, Obama will still get at least 90% of the Black Vote. Guaranteed!
36 posted on 08/17/2010 12:38:19 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: stormer

Well, I never said she was perfect....no one is. She is extremely intelligent and I wouldn’t trust anyone who never had any hardships nor made mistakes in their life. The best way to learn in life is by making mistakes. Any parent and teacher knows that.

Those who have to work through difficult events and turn their lives around to become highly successful, are usually the wisest people I know.

Like I say, she has a vast amount of knowledge on child development. I’ve spent many years working in that area and her statements on the topic of children and their physical and emotional needs are right on the money.

The only people I know that hate her (and her advise) are feminists and homosexuals. It is because she points out their selfish behaviors which are detrimental to raising emotionally healthy and happy children. I’ve NEVER known her to be wrong about that subject but selfish, narcissistic people find her extremely offensive because she calls them out.

It’s like condemning the words of MLK which were brilliant but may have been plagerised and because he was a womanizer. So what? He was perfect at expressing the agony of the black experience in pre-civil rights for Blacks. Like I say, few people are perfect, but that has nothing to do with their areas where they are extremely talented and gifted. Dr. Laura is extremely gifted when it comes to explaining the needs of children. That is all I am saying.


37 posted on 08/17/2010 12:51:32 AM PDT by savagesusie
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To: woofie

I heard her rant. I agree with her. I also think it was a mistake to apologize.

Words like cracker, nigger, spic, wap, wetback, beaner, “fill-in-the-blank-with-your-favorite-insult” need a context to have any meaning at all. And I agreed with her context when she used the word.

She was trying to make a point about sensitivity. I like what Penn and teller say about sensitivity training. They say the “sensitive” should be given “insensitivity training” to toughen up.

Sticks and stones, and all that...


38 posted on 08/17/2010 12:58:04 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: stormer

Perhaps she gives family advice based on her life experience. She may be estranged from people in her family because she is ‘walking the walk’ and they do not deserve her attention. From listening to her and reading her books, she does not claim to have been perfect in her life, but states truths she has learned that are painful and conflict with the feminazi teachings of today.

She talks tough because she has ‘been there, done that’. What she lacks in pc and touchy feely rhetoric she makes up for in honesty. I heard the transcript - she did not call the woman a nigger. She asked about the double standard we all know is there and used that word in her question.


39 posted on 08/17/2010 2:18:46 AM PDT by oldmomster
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To: woofie

Race didn’t hurt, but any Democrat would get the vast majority of the black vote.


40 posted on 08/17/2010 2:53:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: This Just In
I salute Dr. Laura for her courage.

What courage? She backed down, and apparently scrubbed her website as well. She should not say things she can't defend.

41 posted on 08/17/2010 3:29:31 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: woofie

She said nigger? So what? It is a word. This is America.


42 posted on 08/17/2010 3:36:03 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: aquila48

I think it’s worse than that. Blacks have been brainwashed into the thinking America is so racist that the only way to get ahead is to have the government intervene to make sure you get ahead — and if you don’t, to load you up with freebies. They have completely bought into the welfare state as a right and it is the chief reason blacks fall behind on every performance measure. They are told that if there are not equal outcomes on any measure it is solely due to racism. They makes them feel better about their massive failures across the board of any intellectual or financial achievement scale. It also makes it easy to justify their lack of initiative, discipline and ingenuity to get ahead on their own merit. And it’s not just a tragedy for black people. It is a tragedy for all of us and our political system. They are the power base for the Communists who want to take over and destroy all our freedoms.


43 posted on 08/17/2010 3:49:55 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: freedumb2003

When Hillary ran against Obama in the North Carolina primary with almost identical positions on the issues, Obama received over ninety percent of the Black vote. Now let them try to spin that.


44 posted on 08/17/2010 8:41:42 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: stormer
She has a Ph.D. in physiology, smart guy. That's no physical education or "gym." It's a traditionally male-dominated hard science area that requires a sophisticated grip on mathematics and biochemistry, as well as the willingness and ability to do advanced research in biology.

Criticize her on issues of substance if you like, but this is one area where you can't fault her.

45 posted on 08/17/2010 8:59:15 AM PDT by ottbmare
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To: stormer

I’d like to add this:

It’s true that in her twenties Dr Laura led a life that was not admirable. I would be horrified if my daughter did anything like that. However, as a Christian I believe in redemption.

This woman has been there and done it, and she has the authority then to say to troubled people, “I have been down in that sink of bad behavior, and I can tell you personally how empty, awful, destructive, and dangerous it is. Don’t do it. I’ve given up all that and now have a happy productive life. Try it my way.” This is a lot more valuable than saying, “I’m a goody-two-shoes who has never put a foot wrong in my entire blameless life, and from my pedestal I’m advising you not to sin.” People tend not to listen to advice from someone who appears to be perfect. They think the perfect person doesn’t know what temptation and misery are.

Furthermore, whatever sin she committed in the past has been more than rectified by her very public penitence over it, and by a career-long effort to get people to live better and more ethically, both through her talk show and through her EXCELLENT books. Have you read them? They contain a lot of wisdom. No, I didn’t think you had.

Frankly, I have made a lot of mistakes in my life. Never did what Laura did, but had my own sins and shortcomings. Perhaps you’ve led a completely blameless, holy life and you can stand before God and say you’ve never sinned. But very few of us can, so if you really want to be sinless in God’s eyes, extend some compassion to those of us who are not as perfect as you. Until then, you might want to put down those stones in your hand.


46 posted on 08/17/2010 9:12:00 AM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: ottbmare
Yeah - I know what her degree is in. I'm a researcher in a "hard science area that requires a sophisticated grip on mathematics and biochemistry" at one of the largest universities in the United States, and "do advanced research in biology". I understand better than most in this forum what what the academic requirements are for her level of education. Let me ask this: Would you let your dentist take out your appendix? After all, he is a doctor.
47 posted on 08/17/2010 9:14:11 AM PDT by stormer
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To: freedumb2003

Any prominent person who tells the truth about the left will be viciously attacked.


48 posted on 08/17/2010 9:15:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: philman_36

Ditto. Blacks voted for Obama because he was black. They are sticking with him like white on rice because he is black.


49 posted on 08/17/2010 9:16:54 AM PDT by bvw
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To: woofie

“It’s not the first time I’ve heard this ridiculous canard that black people voted for the president based simply on skin color”

The author of the above statement has to be one ignorant woman. More than 95% of blacks voted for Obama. It was the highest black turnout in a presidential election in history. And yet this moron author would have us believe that blacks didn’t vote for Obama just becuase he was black.


50 posted on 08/17/2010 9:27:02 AM PDT by kenmcg
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