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NY1 Exclusive: Developer Won't Budge on Mosque Location (Says It's "Nowhere Near" Ground Zero)
New York One ^ | Tuesday, August 17, 2010 | Grace Rauh

Posted on 08/17/2010 11:17:30 AM PDT by kristinn

SNIP

Sharif El-Gamal is the developer behind the plan to erect an Islamic community center and mosque two blocks from the World Trade Center site.

Calls are mounting for him and the other backers to find a new home for their center, further away from the site of the September 11th terrorist attacks, but El-Gamal isn't budging.

He is sticking with his plans to erect a 13-story center and prayer space in Lower Manhattan. He likens the project to a YMCA or Jewish Community Center, with programs open to all residents of all faiths.

"A landmark, an iconic building that will have people come and visit it from around the world,” said El-Gamal as to what he imagines. “This looks like it is going to be the most famous community center in the world."

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"Park51 is a community center. It is two blocks north of the World Trade Center site,” said El-Gamal. “In New York City, two blocks is a great distance. There are some buildings in New York that have their own zip codes. There is such a scarcity of space in New York, especially in Lower Manhattan. Keep in mind this is a small island, so we are nowhere near the World Trade Center site."

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Of course, the project got a boost from the White House last weekend when President Barack Obama spoke strongly in support of the developer's right to build the center. El-Gamal says he heard the president's remarks while he was on his way to East Hampton. He says he was blown away.

(Excerpt) Read more at manhattan.ny1.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911mosque; crushislam; elgamal; groundzero; groundzeromosque; islam; islamism; islamofascism; nukemecca; obama; obamamosque; park51; sharifelgamal; wot
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1 posted on 08/17/2010 11:17:34 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

So much for their desire for ‘dialogue and tolerance’.


2 posted on 08/17/2010 11:18:53 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: kristinn

Park51??

More like Area 51


3 posted on 08/17/2010 11:21:16 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA, Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: kristinn

It bin nowhere near the sight. So go hef yourselves.


4 posted on 08/17/2010 11:21:28 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: kristinn

Of course there’s a way to stop this thing. That’s what zoning laws are for.

But for there to be a way, there must first be a will.


5 posted on 08/17/2010 11:21:28 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: maddog55

Sharif El-Gamal does not think the planned mosque is part of Ground Zero? How does he explain the fact that the Muslim pilots that hit the Twin Towers airplane’s landing gear hit the building they plan to tear down?


7 posted on 08/17/2010 11:22:56 AM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: kristinn

No surprises here. Alternately beating their chests and bellowing threats or whining and pleading persecution.

The real question is did these reporters ask any probing questions about Sharif’s background and the financing for this project?


8 posted on 08/17/2010 11:22:56 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: kristinn
Park51 is a community center

Will infidels be welcomed in this "community center"?

9 posted on 08/17/2010 11:23:51 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: kristinn

Just an observation....This Mosque on Park Pl is actually only 1 (short) block away from WTC 7 which collapsed a (I believe) few days after 9/11.


10 posted on 08/17/2010 11:23:51 AM PDT by trappedinnj (Missing Something)
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To: kristinn
The dead in the 911 Atrocity fell a further distance
than the abomination will be from Ground Zero.


11 posted on 08/17/2010 11:24:35 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: kristinn

Since when is a mosque open to non-Muslims? This guy is lying in his teeth (typical for Muslims talking to infidels).


12 posted on 08/17/2010 11:24:43 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: kristinn

So are the construction unions going to build this for them?


13 posted on 08/17/2010 11:25:17 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: kristinn

Hope someone opens a BBQ stand on the sidewalk......


14 posted on 08/17/2010 11:26:05 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: SuziQ

This whole situation is so frustrating. We all know this is so wrong.


16 posted on 08/17/2010 11:27:57 AM PDT by ColdOne
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To: maddog55

I was watching Morning Joe today.

Joe Scarborough is not a bad guy but he was attacking those - particularly Republicans- who are against this Islamic pissing contest.

The Islamics are broadcasting in every way shape and form their motivation, why are even people like Scarborough too dumb to understand the truth?


17 posted on 08/17/2010 11:28:00 AM PDT by HearMe
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To: SuziQ

Glenn Beck identified something like 50k sq. ft. of available space in Manhattan. This dude can pack sand.


18 posted on 08/17/2010 11:28:11 AM PDT by cld51860
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To: trappedinnj

Good point. Building Seven collapsed the afternoon of the 11th, leading to a host of conspiracy theories.


19 posted on 08/17/2010 11:28:30 AM PDT by kristinn (Since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: kristinn
[el-Gamal]likens the project to a YMCA or Jewish Community Center, with programs open to all residents of all faiths.

If this abomination ever does get built, I expect there will be plenty of New Yorkers willing to take el-Gamal at his literal word on this. To the most legalistic, hair-splitting, nth degree.

20 posted on 08/17/2010 11:28:37 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: kristinn
(Says It's "Nowhere Near" Ground Zero)

A piece of the landing gear of Flt. 11 that hit 1 WTC hit this building...and Flt 11 was going the other way!

21 posted on 08/17/2010 11:28:38 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: beethovenfan

Good point.


22 posted on 08/17/2010 11:29:04 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Diogenesis

This is nothing short of the abomination of desolation.


23 posted on 08/17/2010 11:29:04 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Diogenesis

You make a strong point with that reminder.


24 posted on 08/17/2010 11:30:12 AM PDT by kristinn (Since Jul 31, 1998)
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To: trappedinnj

hmmm...7 WTC collapsed at around 5pm on 9/11...


25 posted on 08/17/2010 11:30:56 AM PDT by trappedinnj (Missing Something)
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To: kristinn

When there are YMCAs and Jewish Community Centers in Mecca, he can have his damn community center.


26 posted on 08/17/2010 11:31:26 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Iowa floods, Obama vacations. Moochelle Obama, please pass the cake.)
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To: maddog55

“Park51” is a reference to the Muslim practice of building a mosque on newly conquered territory.
I sh!t you not.

And they intend to either start or complete it on September 11.


27 posted on 08/17/2010 11:31:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: kristinn
Developer Won't Budge on Mosque Location

so I suppose they have picked the hill they want to die on.....

well OK then.

28 posted on 08/17/2010 11:31:36 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: kristinn

“...we are nowhere near the World Trade Center site.”

Liar.


29 posted on 08/17/2010 11:31:56 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: illiac
Hope someone opens a BBQ stand on the sidewalk


30 posted on 08/17/2010 11:31:58 AM PDT by McGruff (How's that Hopey Changey thingy workin for ya?)
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To: roses of sharon
But the growing number of congregants at the only other nearby mosque, open only one day a week, created a need for an additional space for Muslim prayer in the neighborhood,

So, why can't that mosque be open a few more days a week to handle the crowds?

Oh yeah - the victory mosque standing triumphantly over Ground Zero. Sorry...


31 posted on 08/17/2010 11:32:51 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (YouTube My Space and I'll Google your Yahoo.)
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To: All; kristinn
While celebrating RAMADAN at the White House President Barack Obama says "Muslims have a right to practice their religion as every one else in this country."
Click on link to view video:
Obama speaks

REALLY! Does everyone else GET THE RIGHT to practice their religion? See the below stories.

"A group of Christian students was allegedly ordered to stop praying outside the U.S. Supreme Court building on May 5 (2010) because a court police officer told them it was against the law"
Click on link to read the full story:
Children Praying

Now compare to the year before on Sept 26th 2009

"About 3,000 Muslims gathered Friday for a first-ever prayer service in the shadow of the U.S. Capitol in what turned out to be a peaceful assembly despite the taunts of Christian evangelists on the surrounding sidewalks." Read the full article above at:
Muslims Praying

Meanwhile a Greek Orthodox Church (the only church that was previously at Ground Zero and destroyed has not been able to rebuild because of bureaucracy.

"While a mosque is one step closer to being built in New York City (2) blocks away from Ground Zero, a church that was destroyed in the 9/11 attacks has yet to be restored."

"St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church stood in the shadow of the Twin Towers and was crushed when the South Tower collapsed."
Click link to read full story:
Greek Orthodox Church

"Beck says that even though they rented the Kennedy Center for use on 8/27, they were told that they could not pray in the facility. That is beyond shocking. Apparently they finally relented, but I'm guessing that it's only because of who he is. Had it been you are me, we'd probably be in handcuffs after we disobeyed and prayed anyway." Click link to read full story and see video:
No Prayer At Kennedy Center

"State Department officials on Monday confirmed Feisal Abdul Rauf, the Imam of the so-called Ground Zero Mosque, will soon be going on a trip of the Middle East and the U.S. government will be picking up the tab."....... "Rauf has emerged as a controversial figure because of his refusal to acknowledge Hamas as a terrorist organization, which is how the U.S. government classifies the group. The imam also has been quoted as saying U.S. foreign policy was in part responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Read more of the above at:
Feisal Abdul Rauf

This Iman, Feisal Abdul Rauf, wants SHARIA LAW practiced. Read up on what Sharia Law is.

Would we spend tax payers money to send Billy Graham to foreign country's to spread Christian beliefs? I think not.

THREE THINGS ABOUT ISLAM EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW
click on the below link.
THREE THINGS ABOUT ISLAM

WAKE UP AMERICA. THE WORLD IS CHANGING. WATCH THE BELOW LINK
MUSLIM DEMOGRAPHICS

32 posted on 08/17/2010 11:32:51 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: McGruff

BUT BUT what about being SENSITIVE to AMERICANS....or REACHING OUT and being TOLERANT to AMERICAN BELIEFS ??


33 posted on 08/17/2010 11:32:53 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: McGruff

YES!!!


34 posted on 08/17/2010 11:32:55 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: COBOL2Java
Will infidels be welcomed in this "community center"?

You'll have to let them build the building to find out.

35 posted on 08/17/2010 11:33:35 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: WaterBoard
“This looks like it is going to be the most famous community center in the world."

Great, Ground Zero will now become the new Mecca and all Muslims will have to make the Hajji as part of the 5 pillars of their faith.

36 posted on 08/17/2010 11:33:59 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: kristinn

As I said before, having this mosque at ground zero is the whole point of building it.


37 posted on 08/17/2010 11:34:33 AM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: kristinn

Lie to the Infidel.
Speak the truth to the Believers.

I’ve seen it in action. This is no different.


38 posted on 08/17/2010 11:37:19 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If you think health care is expensive now, wait till it's free.)
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To: kristinn
Supposedly this center is for "reconciliation and healing" yet they name it "CORDOBA HOUSE"?

Liars, liars, liars.

39 posted on 08/17/2010 11:37:26 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: beethovenfan

See my posting here at #32. Scroll down to THREE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT MUSLIMS


40 posted on 08/17/2010 11:37:40 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: HearMe

They are not dumb. They have very specific agendas usually involving money, access, control and power. It is times like this when those agendas become rather clear.


41 posted on 08/17/2010 11:37:40 AM PDT by rod1
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To: kristinn

Where are the unions in this? Are they going to stand with their masters or are they going to throw up some picket lines?


42 posted on 08/17/2010 11:37:47 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Monkey Face

It’s more like:

One lie for the infidel
A different lie for the believers.

But I take your point.


43 posted on 08/17/2010 11:39:09 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: Spunky

If Obama is a “Christian,” why is he celebrating Ramadan in the White House?

Oh, gee. Let me guess..../sarc


44 posted on 08/17/2010 11:40:12 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If you think health care is expensive now, wait till it's free.)
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To: HearMe

“Joe Scarborough is not a bad guy .....”

What planet are you on?


45 posted on 08/17/2010 11:40:43 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: ichabod1

A not-so-devout Muslim in Pakistan said to me one day, when he learned a trusted friend had stolen 100,000 rials from him, “A man MUST be dishonest. But not THAT dishonest.”

I took from that a lesson...dishonesty in dealing with others is accepted if it gets you what you want.


46 posted on 08/17/2010 11:42:33 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If you think health care is expensive now, wait till it's free.)
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To: HearMe

Joe Scarborough works for The Liberal Man (MSNBC). He knows how to sing for his supper. Same for house “conservative” David Brooks of the New York Times.


47 posted on 08/17/2010 11:42:43 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: COBOL2Java
Park51 is a community center

Whaddya say we collect a few Freepers, a few cold ones, and some pork rinds, and head on down to the community center and hang out a while?

48 posted on 08/17/2010 11:43:47 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: kristinn
Short term, this is good news. Keeping this story in the news cycle will drive dem poll numbers lower and lower. (Of course, the long term good news would be that the mosque is not built.)
49 posted on 08/17/2010 11:44:18 AM PDT by matt1234 (The only crisis 0bama can manage is one he intentionally created.)
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To: kristinn
".....so we are nowhere near the World Trade Center site."

FYI

45–47 Park Place, -- HISTORYDuring the September 11 attacks, the then-five-story building at 45–47 Park Place,, between West Broadway and Church Street, was severely damaged. The building is located two blocks (less than 600 feet (180 meters)) north of the former World Trade Center.
That morning, the terrorists hijacked United Airlines Flight 175 as part of their attack on the World Trade Center Twin Towers. They crashed the plane into the South Tower at 9:03 a.m, triggering the destruction of the tower hours later.. The plane penetrated through the tower, and part of the plane's landing gear and fuselage came out the north side of the tower and crashed through the roof of 45–47 Park Place, and through two of its floors. The plane parts destroyed three floor beams, and severely compromised the building's internal structure.
At the time, the building was leased to the Burlington Coat Factory. Stephen Pomerantz owned the building, and his wife Kukiko Mitani, subsequently attempted to sell it for years, at one point asking for $18 million. Until its 2009 purchase, however, the building lay abandoned……..

50 posted on 08/17/2010 11:45:31 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (It's the 'Land of Opportunity'... NOT... the 'Land of Entitlements'!!!)
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