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Obama's religion: does your president's faith matter? (WP proclaims Obama a Christian with no proof)
washington post ^ | 8/19/2010 | Elizabeth Tenety

Posted on 08/19/2010 11:25:30 AM PDT by tobyhill

"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

-Article VI, Section 3, United States Constitution

Does the religion of a president matter? A Pew Research Center survey showed that nearly 20 percent of Americans believe that President Obama is a Muslim (he is not), and only one-third of Americans believe he is a Christian (he is).

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KEYWORDS: bhoislamism; democrats; imamobama; obama; taqiya; taqiyah; taqiyya
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1 posted on 08/19/2010 11:25:32 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Let me get this straight: Libs cast dispersions on Romney because he’s a Mormon (and so do a few right wing types).

But if the loon is a muzzie, this is OK?


2 posted on 08/19/2010 11:27:10 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: tobyhill

The issue is that the undocumented One LIED TO AMERICA.


3 posted on 08/19/2010 11:27:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: tobyhill

I don’t care if he’s green with frilly gills and walks with a limp.

HE’S AN INCOMPETENT BOOB! That’s all that counts.


4 posted on 08/19/2010 11:27:54 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: tobyhill

“Proof” can be hard to come by prior to death ... even inconclusive evidence would be helpful though.

SnakeDoc


5 posted on 08/19/2010 11:28:00 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Shut it down" ... 00:00:03 ... 00:00:02 ... 00:00:01 ... 00:00:00.)
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To: tobyhill

NO “Christian” attended Racist Wright’s “Church”

Not for two times, let alone twenty years

He’s no more a Christian than Chris Hitchens


6 posted on 08/19/2010 11:28:41 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (NO MOS-que NO way, NO how, NO money, NO land NO NO and NO)
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To: tobyhill

Insofar as it seems to influence his policy decisions, yes. That having been said, I couldn’t care less whether the POTUS is a Christian, Buddhist, or atheist, as long as I’m confident that he or she has the correct positions on the issues (from my point of view).


7 posted on 08/19/2010 11:28:57 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: tobyhill

NASA Mosque


8 posted on 08/19/2010 11:29:24 AM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: Da Coyote

If the poll did not include the choice “no religion”, it is not any good.


9 posted on 08/19/2010 11:29:38 AM PDT by Shermy (Q: Who is John Galt?! A: Alan Greenspan's father.)
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To: FrankR

Be careful with that poster.

It might give NASA some ideas to continue its spending on the Space Shuttle.


10 posted on 08/19/2010 11:31:17 AM PDT by Shermy (Q: Who is John Galt?! A: Alan Greenspan's father.)
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To: tobyhill

What proof do any of us have, but our words? He states that he is a Christian.


11 posted on 08/19/2010 11:31:17 AM PDT by Spreadhead
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To: tobyhill

How about using the U. S. Constitution as a reference point and the issue of religion goes away?


12 posted on 08/19/2010 11:31:35 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: tobyhill

Barack Obama and the Muslim call to prayer



13 posted on 08/19/2010 11:32:26 AM PDT by EdReform (Stop Obamacare - Join the Obamacare Class Action Suit: www.obamacareclassaction.com)
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To: tobyhill

Well I dont think he has one..he worships himself too much


14 posted on 08/19/2010 11:33:12 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: tobyhill

for those at FOX and other other idiots in the media then instead of trying to tell us he is a Christian then why not ask him why he does not go to church, he does not celebrate Christmas etc.

It’s high time you all started doing your job.

Lauren Green saying he’;s a Christian and then says apparently he goes to the chapel at camp David.

Come on Lauren you are smarter than that. Where is he at every Sunday?
Why no camera’s?
What church does he go to?
What is he Catholic, Prod what Lauren?????????????????????

DO YOUR JOBS MEDIA


15 posted on 08/19/2010 11:33:17 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: tobyhill

It matters if he belongs to a religion that wants to destroy us—hell yes!

damn straight it does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


16 posted on 08/19/2010 11:33:34 AM PDT by notaliberal (It's the Constitution---- Stupid!)
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To: tobyhill

Does it matter if he lied to the country?


17 posted on 08/19/2010 11:34:00 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: A_Former_Democrat

“He’s no more a Christian than Chris Hitchens”

He’s no more Christian than he is an American!


18 posted on 08/19/2010 11:34:16 AM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: tobyhill

bump


19 posted on 08/19/2010 11:34:31 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: Shermy

“Narcissism”

worship of self.

That’s his religion. With sympathy for Islam and antipathy for “right wing” (ie, true) Christians.


20 posted on 08/19/2010 11:34:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: tobyhill
So, The Constitution - which they so casually toss aside in cases involving Christians rights - is the cloak they will hide behind to support having a muslim for a president.

Selective patriotism - the hallmark of the left.

Using their logic, Jim Jones of Jonestown and the kool aid bingers should have been allowed to have been President. After all, it WAS organized religion.

Maybe a religious "test" is out of order, but there are plenty of other areas that this assclown doesn't qualify for as president...and to be a muzzie who supports the WTC mosque is the last straw.

They are trying to turn his quest for a "victory mosque" into a religious intolerance thing...another variation of the "race card".
21 posted on 08/19/2010 11:35:48 AM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: tobyhill

I don’t consider either Black Liberation Theology or Islam, Christian. .. however, I do consider both of those Anti-American.


22 posted on 08/19/2010 11:35:55 AM PDT by DDLL
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To: tobyhill
Just say, "Lan astaslem" (I will not submit)
23 posted on 08/19/2010 11:36:28 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: notaliberal

“It matters if he belongs to a religion that wants to destroy us—hell yes!

damn straight it does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY!!!!


24 posted on 08/19/2010 11:36:54 AM PDT by Sloane_Ranger
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To: Spreadhead

No fruit...and even some bad fruit. Christians aren’t called upon to judge, we’re commanded to discern.


25 posted on 08/19/2010 11:39:44 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: tobyhill

He’s not anything but anti-God. IOW, religion means nothing to him.


26 posted on 08/19/2010 11:40:29 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: FrankR

You’e correct...but the Dems/WH can’t win this one....The majority of Americans aren’t stupid..they know he’s NOT a Christian, because he doesn’t go to church..and they know that Islam is basically an intolerant religion..


27 posted on 08/19/2010 11:40:39 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: tobyhill

“Does the religion of a president matter?”

Only if/when it is used to subvert/displace the Constitution or OTHER religions.

Got that, “O”?? Remember that ‘oath of office’ thingy?????


28 posted on 08/19/2010 11:42:35 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: Spreadhead

That’s what I used to think (John 10:9): “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved...”.

Of course we don’t know 0’s heart, but he supposedly confesses Jesus as his Lord.

HOWEVER, he has spoken and enacted legislation very contrary to Christian doctrine. So now I do question his faith.


29 posted on 08/19/2010 11:42:46 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: Spreadhead

How about this for proof?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

No Christian would have made this slip up, nor would any Hindu, Buddhist, Jew or whatever.


30 posted on 08/19/2010 11:43:05 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (In the White House the mighty White House the Liar sleeps tonight.............)
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To: tobyhill
Does the religion of a president matter?

NO.

Lying about it does.

31 posted on 08/19/2010 11:45:28 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: tobyhill
Obama's religion: does your president's faith matter? (WP proclaims Obama a Christian with no proof)

To borrow an overused phrase from an idiot marxist "Let me be perfectly clear" the kenyan usurper 0bama NEVER HAS BEEN, and NEVER WILL BE, my president. As far as I'm concerned, the office has been vacant since noon, January 20, 2009.

And Hell Yes, faith matters - especially when he's a muzzie!

32 posted on 08/19/2010 11:45:57 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (REAL Americans Bow to No One But The Almighty! - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Shermy
If the poll did not include the choice “no religion”, it is not any good.

My suspicion (there's no way to really know) is that Obama believes in God in a vague sort of way, but recognizes that a professed lack of religion is usually a liability in politics. Accordingly, he found a nominally Christian church (Rev. Wright's) which had politics with which he was comfortable, and attended it for appearance's sake. Now that he's president there's no need to keep up the facade, thus he almost never attends church.

It would be my guess that there are dozens of Congressmen (at least) who feel the same way, belonging to a church strictly because it looks good to some voters.

33 posted on 08/19/2010 11:46:05 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Joann37

A bad tree cannot produce good fruit.
By his fruits you shall know him.

Mathew 7:15-20
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you pretending to be sheep. But on the inside they are hungry wolves. 16 You can tell what they really are by what they do.
“Do people pick grapes from bushes? Do they pick figs from thorns? 17 In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit. But a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree can’t bear bad fruit. And a bad tree can’t bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down. It is thrown into the fire. 20 You can tell each tree by its fruit.


34 posted on 08/19/2010 11:46:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: UCANSEE2

If leftists were honest about their beliefs,
they’d never get elected dog catcher.


35 posted on 08/19/2010 11:47:00 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Spreadhead
What proof do any of us have, but our words?

It's in the Bible. Our words do not matter. Actions are what matters.

He states that he is a Christian.

And yet, his actions say he is not.

36 posted on 08/19/2010 11:50:04 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Spreadhead

How about his Baptism records for starters. On his school records it states for his religion “Islam”.


37 posted on 08/19/2010 11:50:14 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Abin Sur
That having been said, I couldn’t care less whether the POTUS is a Christian, Buddhist, or atheist, as long as I’m confident that he or she has the correct positions on the issues (from my point of view).

If he justified his 'position' on an issue by saying he's an atheist, and you found out he was a devout Christian, would you trust that person to be President?

The issue is not WHAT religious faith he practices. The issue is, why does he seem to be LYING about it?

38 posted on 08/19/2010 11:59:11 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: tobyhill

The image here:
http://www.goldiproductions.com/thecanadasite/images/cansite/people/churchill_roosevelt_argentia.jpg

is a picture (I can’t figure out how to post the picture in my reply) of FDR and Churchill at Sunday service together on the deck of a destroyer early in the Second World War. They were both Christians, both Protestants for that matter, and they shared a great deal of tradition and worldview.

I’m Jewish, but I’ve always found this picture comforting. If I’d been a sailor on that ship I’d have been happy to see my President sharing that experience, knowing the words of the liturgy, singing songs he’d been raised with, because it would remind me of his commitment to the values that underly Western civilization.

Does it matter that our current President doesn’t share those values? Does that question really need to be asked? And if he does think that the Muslim call to prayer is the sweetest sound in the world, and a large number of Muslims are at war with our country, is that troubling?

Only if you’re awake.


39 posted on 08/19/2010 12:00:49 PM PDT by JOHN ADAMS
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To: Madame Dufarge
How about using the U. S. Constitution as a reference point and the issue of religion goes away?

I think he'd rather used Islam as a reference point, and have the issue of Christian Religion go away.

After all, when he was being a PRETEND BLACK BAPTIST, he never really enjoyed the sermons. If only he hadn't gone into politics, he wouldn't have had to keep up a sham of being a Christian. He'd rather hear the sweet sounds of the call to prayer, 5 times a day.

FIVE TIMES A DAY. FIVE TIMES A DAY. FIVE TIMES A DAY.

(see if you can find that phrase in the news today)

40 posted on 08/19/2010 12:05:51 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: tobyhill
"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

-Article VI, Section 3, United States Constitution

Nice sleight of hand there, mister WaPo writer. Nobody is claiming that he is unqualified to hold an office or position of public trust due to his Muslim faith.

(He is unqualified based on a host of other issues, but not this one).

Obama is the master of the phony strawman argument. By leading off with this statement, the author of this article is engaging in the same sort of deception...

41 posted on 08/19/2010 12:06:33 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: tobyhill

Just look at how fast the MSM runs to carry King Hussein’s water for him!

Boy, can they scurry.


42 posted on 08/19/2010 12:08:24 PM PDT by mojito
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To: MrB
Obama is demon possessed and I suspect as Malachi Martin calls it a “Perfect possession” where there is no exorcism. The possessed has personally rejected Christ and hardened their heart and welcomed the evil spirit in. Islam without any doubt is a Satanic religion, not my opinion, it's in the Bible. In Isaiah the word for Lucifer is Hebrew means Crescent(or bright light) of the Morning star..this look familiar...

The Koran itself has 400 references to names of Allah, some are The Morning Star, the Greatest Deceiver, etc. What other proof do you need to have. One of Satan's greatest works of deception making the bad guy the good guy and the good guy the bad guy. Islam is the 7the head of the dragon, the one in Revelation. Jesus will come and wipe out all the Imams and religious leaders and crush the minarets and the Muslims will cry and gnash their teeth. too late now..And Obama sides with them.

43 posted on 08/19/2010 12:08:53 PM PDT by pburgh01
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To: tobyhill

Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 1:01:16 AM by NoLibZone

This was a statement by Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit on Nile-TV. It was made on the «Round table show».

This is the statement recorded:

Adul Gheit said he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama, where the US President told him that He was still a Muslim, the son of a Muslim father, the step son of Muslim stepfather, that his half brothers in Kenya are Muslims, and that he was sympatetic towards the Muslim agenda.

Adul Gheit claimed Obama told the Arabs to show patience. Obama promised that once he overcame some domestic issues, like the Health care reform, he would show the Muslim World how to deal with Israel.


44 posted on 08/19/2010 12:13:30 PM PDT by bt579 (Is government doing us more harm than good? Pruning the power begins with the Presidency)
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To: tobyhill

and you shall know them by their works...

false prophets, false philosophies, false teachings...

15”Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Matthew


45 posted on 08/19/2010 12:14:37 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: Spreadhead

“So then, you will know them by their fruits.”

Words mean little, especially for a politician. We can only judge them by their actions.


46 posted on 08/19/2010 12:15:17 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: tobyhill
"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

He got elected, didn't he, Elizabeth? We don't have to like it that he is a crypto-Muslim or Ed Cone acolyte, but he got elected, but there is no "test" here.

The MSM is cowering in fear over what this mosque thing reveals about Obama. They know Americans view Obama as "other" than them, alien to their culture.

47 posted on 08/19/2010 12:19:55 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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To: Spreadhead
He states that he is a Christian.

Hitler publicly claimed to be a Christian, but in fact was very hostile to Christianity. Hitler was just much, much better at posing that the artless dilettante in the White House.

48 posted on 08/19/2010 12:23:44 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: tobyhill

Unbelievable. This same left wing media that hates Christians, now trying to defend Obama, insisting that he is Christian. The left wing is going in circles.


49 posted on 08/19/2010 12:28:24 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: tobyhill
Imam Obamah has only been to a Christian church only a couple of times since becoming Imam of the United States.

But spent 20yrs in hate-filled, muslim honoring African Nationalist so-called church.

50 posted on 08/19/2010 12:31:24 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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