Skip to comments.Uh, Sorry, TIME, Technically Obama IS a Muslim (Debbie Schlussel Skewers Hot Air & Time)
Posted on 08/19/2010 3:53:31 PM PDT by Mister Ghost
I was ahead of my time, and the sheep on all sides of the spectrum didnt like that. For saying those things, I was vehemently attacked as an extremist by the entire left-wing blogosphere and media . . . and those on the RIGHT, including the ignorant morons at Michelle Fraudkins Hot Airheads, who thought Obamas speech to the Muslim world was surprisingly good (thats the ignoramus Ed Morrissey and the equally ignorant coward who goes by a fictional name, Allahpundit). McCain illegal alien amnesty lover, Baba Streisand buddy, and faux-conservative Michael Medved called me despicable for a 1/2 hour to the two listeners of his irrelevant national radio show. Yup, the unHot Airheads and Medfraud were on the same side as George Soros/Nazi-funded Media Matters. How dare Debbie Schlussel say Barack Obama has Muslim heritage and is a Muslim in Islamic eyes?!
But, per usual, I was right, and they were wrong. Obama did, in fact, do everything I said he would. And he bragged and embraced the Islamic part of his family, going overboard. And poll after poll shows most of the Islamic world believes Barack Obama to be Muslim because, under Islamic law, he is. And, also under Islamic law, its once a Muslim, always a Muslim. Thus the headline of my much-ridiculed piece.
Now, TIME Magazine is up in arms about a poll that shows 25% of Americans believe Barack Obama is a Muslim. Um, 100% of the Islamic world believes he is. So, why isnt TIME up in arms about that, rather than ridiculing the 25% of Americans who get it? It makes no difference whether Barack Obama openly believes hes Christian. His heart and mind is with the Islamic world. Hes proved that in every stage of his political life...
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I note Hot Air refuses to run the “25% of Americans think Obama is a Muslim” story.
Wow, Schlussel has stooped so low that she is calling names like “Michelle Fraudkin”?
Dear Meester Ghoat,
Americans do not bow to Saudi Princes.
Dear Meester Ghoat,
Americans do not bow to Saudi Princes.
Funny that everyone has been blasting Schlussel....but she has been right all along
I lost interest in Michele Malkin when she attacked Birthers....I can understand a publication refusing to cover the Birther issue...but when you attack those seeking the truth about Obama’s Birth....you are enabling Obama. If you are not a Birther....you are definitely an Obama supporter
More and more I can see why people like Schlussel go after some of these fraud-cons....and it should be troubling when Malkin/HotAir cover for Obama....his Islamic background and his non-US birth
He is most certainly a Muslim first!
I will stand with the Muslims. He was series.
I don’t get Debbie Schlussel. It’s like she’s trying to be seen as someone on the same level as Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, and Ann Coulter, but she isn’t, and a lot of her columns seem to be her yelling at people for not respecting her enough or, as in this case, telling us how right she was before and we should have recognized it. Is she still feuding with Hannity? I don’t listen to him, but thought her tirades against him were...weird.
I guess she’ll have to pen a few snarky hit pieces on Sarah Palin to get her credibility back up after writing this piece of crap. Even if she has a point about the Kenyan’s religious affiliation, when she refers to “Hot Air” as “Hot Airheads” and to Michelle Malkin as “Michelle Fraudkin” then her credibility is shot. What works in a radio talk show (a la Mark Levin) does NOT work in a written column.
That’s pretty much been my experience also.
I’m glad those folks are fighting the battles they are. I’m not going to kill them with friendly fire even if they try to kill me with friendly fire.
But I think they’re going to have some serious egg on their faces very soon. Lord willing.
I do believe under Islamic law if your father is a Muslim so are you.
Lets accept the premise that BHO was born to a muslim father and that makes him a muslim in their eyes.
this makes the reasoning behind their reluctance to release his original Hawaii birth certificate because it would have islam/moslem on it. Since he purports to be a Christian now, his conversion would make him an apostate and the Islamics would go all Rushdie and issue fatawahs.
Either way, he’ll bo going to church in Edgartown on Sunday and you can be sure the media will have the sat trucks lining the streets.
I like Debbie Schlussel pure and simple.
Maybe Bill Clinton can lend Obama that big ol’ honkin’ bible he used to tote to church back when he was prez. Obama may not have one.
This is not a hit piece. She is just telling the truth.
Malkin sold Hot Air months ago to Salem.
LOL, I remember that. He was hauling around a lectern Bible soley for the cameras.
Besides, in 100% of cases if you ask a baby its religion it refuses to answer. So what are you going to do to get an answer, waterboard it?
Was 0bammy ever BAPTISED? Anywhere? When? Who was present? In a church?
Was a Baptism certificate issued? Was the event recorded in the records of the church? How about in the family Bible?
Just one more mystery
Why did McCain and the Republicans totally fail to vet this clown and challenge him on all of the omissions in his background?
Strangely enough; I can’t answer any of those questions.
I used to check out Hot Air all the time but when Michelle left the content just wasn’t worth looking at anymore.
Yikes! This gal makes Ann Coulter sound calm.
Because we had nothing to fear from an Obama presidency, according to McCain.
Of course, Obama might well have won anyway, even if McCain had dared challenge him on those issues. That's just how poor a candidate we were saddled with, unfortunately.
I might have missed this in your list of evidence that Hussein is a Muzzie Manchurian Candidate but the evidence of his conversion to Christianity is very murky and unclear. Also, his supposed conversion to Christianity did not result in a fatwa being issued with the result being his death. If he truly was a Christian he should have the most well-known fatwa in the world issued for his head.
There is no such thing as a “United States” bc. They are creations of individual states/counties.
Info about religion has been collected on bc’s in some places.
Not true. If he is pretending to be “Christian” (Wright’s church is closer to the NOI & black liberation that true Christianity) for the purpose of advancing Islam in some way, this would be entirely acceptable as taqyyia.
By the way, Debbie Schlussel fights on our side and should be supported not shot down. She is an ally not the enemy.
Specially - as you may have noticed - Malkin and O’Reilly have trimmed their sails and now temper their criticism of Obambi - ever more so since Arabs bought a share in Fox News. Malkin appears mostly on O’Reilly and appears to have been told to tone it down about Obama and Islam so as to be invited back.
I stopped watching O’Reilly after he became an Obambi shill - and still is. Without Beck he would be an Obama toe licker.
Dialing it down applies to all her activities not just appearances on Fox.
Also Debbie is RIGHT about this subject matter.
What do you call a guy who is Christian on the outside and Muslim on the inside?
I’m glad to see someone else write that! I thought I was missing something...I definitely no longer visit that site. I can get better more concise information from other sites without some of their snarkiness
Very true but if it by some no-name Muzzie without political ambitions who has converted out then the death penalty pretty much always applies.
100% of the Muzzie world thinks he is one their own. That definitely would preclude any issuance of a fatwa on the Impostor-In-Chief.
The test is always the same: is the lying & deceit meant to advance the cause of Islam?
If so, no problem, that’s taqiyya.
It’s nice when he admits it.
The First Time I Heard of Barack
The First Time I Heard Of Barack
By Tom Fife 11-20-8
During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.
V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause - a cause she obviously was not abandoning.
One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.
As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge - one her husband tried to quietly rein in.
The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:
You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why havent you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice- president and you didnt do it.
The general response went something along the lines that you dont vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you dont vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket.
Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon.
The consensus we expressed was that we didnt think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not.
What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?
The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, Well, you will; and he will be a Communist.
It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, It sounds like you know something we dont know.
Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call Ivy League. You dont believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. Thats right, a chocolate baby! And hes going to be your President.
She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly - as though all were foregone conclusions. Its all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he wont have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. Hes gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America.
We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and hed be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.
She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.
She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet.
At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didnt understand what the point was and dont recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.
Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: If I remember correctly, Barack comes from the Arabic word for Blessing. That seems to be an odd name for an American. She replied quickly, Yes. It is African, she insisted, and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world.
She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way.
So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?
Well, its definitely anecdotal. It doesnt prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.
Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.
Marine met Mulatto Muslim Abomination (in 1980)
While back in Hawaii by late June of 1980, we went back to Honolulu for liberty. I dont remember the exact address, or the exact business, but one August night, early August 1980, I stopped at a small shop that was either on Kalakaua Blvd, now called Ala Moana, or the street just north of it, one block north. I struck up a conversation with a young man, Mulatto, about 18, all teeth, smiling, skinny, short hair that I remember, at least short for the year we lived in.
We struck up a conversation simply because he was at the same place as I was. He appeared to be either an employee there on his off day or was visiting the other older Black American man working there. Hey, are you a military dependant or do you live here? I asked. He told me he lived in Hawaii. Not too many black Americans lived in Hawaii at all then, so his being there was an oddity in itself. Heck, my hometown of 16,000 in Connecticut had only three or four Black families until 20 years ago. I asked if he was in the service and he said no. I told him that I was a Marine and had recently gotten back from float. We spoke of world travel at this time and I told him the places we went to.
What strikes me most is what he said as to where he grew up: Indonesia. Having stopped in the Philippines and Thailand that previous deployment made me curious and I asked him if Indonesia was as poor as the Philippines, but he hadnt been to the Philippines so he didnt know. We had spoken of how both our travels abroad had given us great perspectives in how we viewed the world.
For myself, I admit that things I had heard of how superior the United States was were proven accurate and also proven false. Our nation was surely the greatest in economic power, with technical jobs for those who searched it out, with higher pay for our labors. Many other places I had been to in the western Pacific had complete poverty; mothers who take their daughters into the field where Marines are deployed and try to prostitute them for money so they have food to eat, women who believe there is no better way to advance their own lot in life than to become a prostitute themselves and try to marry an American who is lonelier than another and would take her home as a bride. But the people, I expected something different, I cant put a word to the emotion or expectation, but because of my travels, I learned that the heart of man is identical across the world.
People want something better for themselves and they want something better for their children and many are willing to go to great lengths to find it, using methods that we would find repulsive, but be sympathetic to because of their poverty. I used to think of Americans as better people, that our nation was superior, but I learned that we are different because we were blessed, not because of whom we are but despite whom we all are inside. The persons I met were no different than anyone I met here at home in their basic character, they were just living in a culture that either allowed them to naturally succeed or one that forced them, or appeared to force them, to do things to survive that our American culture has long forgotten about.
I asked this Indonesian immigrant of these things but he told me those things were not common where he grew up. Our conversation drifted to our dreams of what we are going to do once we are all grown up. I replied that I was not sure and most likely would either re-enlist in the Marines or go home to attend college on the GI Bill.
He told me he wanted to be President of the US someday. I remember lightly smiling and commenting that maybe by the time he gets to be 40 or so, America will be ready for a Black man to be President and I wished him luck. We spoke of the racial tensions I saw at home while growing up, of the outright hostility of Hawaiians toward white Americans and black Americans and I asked him if he ever saw that overseas or since he returned back to Hawaii. I dont remember his answer, but we spoke more of his time overseas and his thoughts on life and philosophy of government.
He made some strange comments to me; it was obvious he never set foot for any time on continental United States and I told him he better realize that he is making judgments about the United States when he himself never actually lived there. I told him, Hawaii aint the United States!
He also told me something that I never forgot, for it caused me to do some other things later in an effort to be nice to him. Since we spoke of where I had been and the world as I saw it, I told him I had been to Africa, Mombassa specifically, and he said to me abruptly, I was born there.
I told him he is not eligible to be president if that was true, but I remembered he said his mom was an American, so, maybe it was okay. But it was what I did after that makes this a true memory: I went back to the barracks and told others of this guy and suggested we all grab our photo albums and visit him again and show him pictures of Mombassa so he could see where he was from.
No one wanted to go, and before that time, my camera had failed the weeks before we hit Mombassa. It was late August or early September until I had borrowed someone elses pictures to develop myself so I had copies of pictures of where I was. But I never forgot meeting that man for those reasons. I was going to do him a favor and show him his home country of birth. And I never went back for some reason, most likely I forgot to or just felt that a one time chance encounter would be meaningless to both of us and didnt mean we were friends.
In the light of what is called the Birther movement these memories are foremost in my mind. While I cannot swear it was Barak Obama, nor can I prove it beyond doubt, all the details I do remember of that chance encounter fit the profile of the man who some people claim was born in Kenya and others claim he was born in Hawaii.
The man I met was about 18, thin, Mulatto, told me he was born in Mombassa, raised in Indonesia, was living in Hawaii and hadnt yet been to many places in the world outside of those places, mostly, hadnt been to the mainland of America for any long time period if at all. And he openly told me he wanted to be President.
And I remember that face, the face of a young man who sat on a table or countertop to my right front, his hands resting on the edge, him leaning forward, his grin; all teeth. It was Barak Obama. I dont know if Id bet my life on it, but I am willing to tell people openly at the risk of my ridicule. I was there, and saw him, spoke to him, and he openly told me he was born in Mombassa, Kenya, not Hawaii.
Does it matter? Of course it does. It should not have to be explained why it matters.
Also, which most of Western Civilization does not understand, is Islam allows/commands Muslims to lie and deceive non-Muslims. It is called taqiyyah and kitman. It is in the Koran. So Obama could deny he is a Muslim but be lying by using taqiyyah or kitman and still be considered a Muslim according to Islam. This principle of deceit can apply to any Muslim, i.e. the Imam of the GZ Mosque, A’jad of Iran etc... Remember the 9/11 hijackers, in order to blend in the US, went to bars, drank liquor and hung out with scantly clad women when necessary.
This is why westerners are suckers for the lies and deceit of Islam. They can’t comprehend someone lying and/or deceiving them and it being perfectly insync with the deceivers’ religion, because such behavior goes against judeo-christian values.
Despite Muslim Father, despite a Muslim name, despite enrollment in Muslim school, I did not believe - and did not want to believe - that Obama was a Muslim.
The day he bowed to the Saudi King, I KNEW he was a Muslim.
Barack Hussein Obama is a radical communist Muslim. There is no doubt.
And to take it one step further. Obama, having an understanding of Islam, is lying and deceiving America in another serious matter, Foreign Policy. The Muslim defintion of “peace” is totally different than the english/western civilization definition/understanding of peace. To a Muslim peace is like a temporary cease fire in hostilities, not a termination of hostilities. Obama would know this givien his Muslim upbringing. Knowing this he is using taqiyyah and kitman to put America, America’s allies and America’s citizens in harms way, i.e. making foreign policy that threatens the US and our constitution.
I would recommend a DVD titled “Farewell Israel....A Political Documentary” by Joel Gilbert. It will open your eyes to the Islamic lies and deceit being foisted on America and its citizens, in the name of “peace” by Obama and the ignorant Muslim sympathizers.
I'm glad you didn't say إن شاء الله, علي الله, إرادة الله, بأمر ال
lol. What I’ve been wanting to say all day wouldn’t look anything at all like that.
That's BS. Since when is Birtherism a core tenet of conservatism?
Not at all. Spread it far and wide.