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Holdout stoked tension on Blagojevich jury [retread poster zotted]
Chicago Tribune ^ | August 19, 2010 | Steve Schmadeke

Posted on 08/19/2010 6:55:36 PM PDT by Viking83

Edited on 08/19/2010 9:26:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

John Grover, 52, a juror from Joliet, said he grew so frustrated after three days of deliberating on the same charge that he yelled at the woman who refused to join the other 11 in agreeing to convict.

"I gave her a piece of my mind," Grover said. "If it wasn't for that one lady, we'd have had him convicted on probably 80 percent of (the indictment)."


(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: blago; iatz; ibtz; victorkilo; vikingkitties; zot
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I posted this excerpt because of the quote that I bolded.

For Pete's sake anybody that has the guts to talk to the president that way is to be commended, not convicted. For a former US Marine to try and bully others in the jury and then discuss it in the press without a hint of shame shows that maybe the jury system isn't working as well as it should. He obviously isn't playing with a full deck.

God bless the lone holdout!

1 posted on 08/19/2010 6:55:38 PM PDT by Viking83
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To: STARWISE; maggief; penelopesire; onyx

More are talking.


2 posted on 08/19/2010 6:58:11 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Viking83

George Costanza, laytex salesman.


3 posted on 08/19/2010 6:58:11 PM PDT by tommyboy (We'll do it live)
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To: Viking83

Whats to bless? She was probably on the take. I’m upset that Fitzgerald deliberately jumped the gun so that they wouldn’t catch all of 0bama’s friends. (if they did would we hear about it?)


5 posted on 08/19/2010 7:01:54 PM PDT by AeWingnut (Soccer: a symptom of a greater ill)
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To: Viking83

First time in Chicago that a jury was fixed.


6 posted on 08/19/2010 7:02:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Viking83
God bless the lone holdout!

Are you mentally ill? The "lone holdout" was a political operative under orders not to convict.

7 posted on 08/19/2010 7:04:23 PM PDT by denydenydeny (You're not only wrong. You're wrong at the top of your voice. --Spencer Tracy, Bad Day at Black Rock)
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To: Viking83

The holdout had been saying to her friends that she’d find Blago ‘not guilty’, no matter what, during the court process.


8 posted on 08/19/2010 7:05:23 PM PDT by paudio (She wanted to be known as another Jackie O. Instead, people see her another Marie Antoinette)
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To: Lurker

Ease off, Lurker. It is a n00b, and Axelgreasy has sent a msall platoon of scum to work FR, starting about sixteen months ago. This is just another of the pondscum floated out from the White Hut basement. Their purpose is to divide, cause anger and elicit drag and pasteable remarks from FR to impugn by posting on sites like DU. We have identified several of these agents provocateur. They are for now allowed to continue ... but they won’t last much longer. Scum and villainy always outs itself.


9 posted on 08/19/2010 7:06:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dem voters, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: Viking83
God bless the lone holdout!

Maybe it's time to institute a critical thinking / logic test before granting posting rights on FR.

10 posted on 08/19/2010 7:06:52 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Viking83

Lost in the internet are you?

Prepare for the zot.


11 posted on 08/19/2010 7:07:30 PM PDT by sarasmom (No incumbent re-elected, at any level of government office.(Period))
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To: denydenydeny
Personally, I enjoyed the first Blago trial and look forward to the second (though I think Fitzy is all bluster on this).

Until I can drive through Illinois with guns in the vehicle and studded tires on same, I care not how IL continues on its merry way.

12 posted on 08/19/2010 7:08:38 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: NittanyLion

My 22 year-old shrugged his shoulders and said “They bought her off.”


13 posted on 08/19/2010 7:09:22 PM PDT by calico_thompson
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To: Viking83
In theory, I like the idea of jury nullification. In theory, it would involve a brave citizen saying "This law is unconstitutional, and I will not vote to convict anyone under this law." In theory, this is a good thing.

In practice, it seems to always be a Democrat operative crossing his or her arms and saying, "I don't care how corrupt that SOB is -- I have my orders and I am not going to let you convict him. Nyah, nyah, nyah."

14 posted on 08/19/2010 7:10:12 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Viking83
God bless the lone holdout!

I would not ask God to bless a liar. But I don't have to worry about that, he knows the truth. In Chicago a "bought" juror is to be expected. Careful what you ask for.

15 posted on 08/19/2010 7:10:57 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: MHGinTN
This is just another of the pondscum floated out from the White Hut basement.

Well pass along to Mr. Axelrod that I remember him from the early 80's. Maybe I'll start telling his WH buddies about some of the boy toys he was cultivating for his personal use back in the day....

16 posted on 08/19/2010 7:12:20 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Viking83
God bless the lone holdout!

I had to double take and make sure I wasn't redirected to DU! Blagojevich was window shopping a Senate seat and your glad he wasn't brought to justice! I think you might be on the wrong forum!

17 posted on 08/19/2010 7:13:09 PM PDT by avant_garde
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To: Viking83

I suppose he really would go ballistic if he heard what I think of President Obuma.


18 posted on 08/19/2010 7:15:28 PM PDT by politicalmerc (I can see November from my house; can you?)
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To: Viking83

The juror is now waiting for her payoff.


19 posted on 08/19/2010 7:17:57 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Lurker

I don’t know what is worse, a DU troll or a keyboard tough guy.


20 posted on 08/19/2010 7:21:06 PM PDT by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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