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Giuliani Says Mosque 'Divisive'
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 08-20-10 | MICHAEL HOWARD SAUL

Posted on 08/19/2010 8:09:39 PM PDT by GOP_Lady

Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani is characterizing the proposed mosque and Islamic cultural center near Ground Zero as "divisive," saying Thursday that the organizers' plans are breeding hate rather than healing wounds.

"All this is doing is creating more division, more anger, more hatred," Mr. Giuliani said during an interview on NBC's "Today" show.

"The reality is that right now, if you are a healer, you do not go forward with this project. If you're a warrior you do," declared Mr. Giuliani, the New York official most closely associated with the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the World Trade Center.

The remarks put him squarely at odds with his successor, Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the proposed mosque's most outspoken advocate.

Mr. Giuliani, a former U.S. attorney and a Republican candidate for president in 2008, said the organizers have "every right" to build the center two blocks from the site of the fallen Twin Towers.

"The question is, should they build it?" he said. "Are they displaying the sensitivity they claim by building it?"

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: caliphate; giuliani; groundzeromosque; islam; islamicdomination; jihadinamerica; mosque; muslims; nyc; nymosque; obama; rudy; treasonousliberal; victorymosque; wsj
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1 posted on 08/19/2010 8:09:43 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: 506Lake; AdvisorB; afraidfortherepublic; antivenom; angry elephant; Bernard; Blonde; ...


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2 posted on 08/19/2010 8:10:29 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

it is not near it is on ground zero.

does he come out and say no it should not be built?


3 posted on 08/19/2010 8:12:24 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GOP_Lady

Great to hear him speak out on this, he was terrific on O’Reilly tonight.


4 posted on 08/19/2010 8:14:38 PM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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To: longtermmemmory

Bloomberg
Tar
Feathers
Priceless

BY THE WAY, WHERE IS THAT COWARD FROM A FAMILY OF COWARDS MYTH FLIP SLICK WILLARD RINO ROMNEY ON THE OBAMA HOPE AND CHANGE VICTORY MOSQUE?


5 posted on 08/19/2010 8:15:56 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: longtermmemmory
"Mr. Giuliani, who served as mayor from 1994 through 2001, argued that the project, if built, would "horribly offend" the people most directly affected by the terrorist attacks: the families of the victims.

He also took direct aim at the imam behind the center, Feisal Abdul Rauf, accusing him of "selling sensitivity" and questioning whether his motives are genuine.

The former mayor praised Democratic Gov. David Paterson for proposing to meet with the project's organizers in hopes of finding an alternative location in Lower Manhattan that would be less controversial."

6 posted on 08/19/2010 8:16:12 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

... to put it mildly.


7 posted on 08/19/2010 8:22:57 PM PDT by PRePublic
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To: McGavin999
Here is video of Giuliani on Sean Hannity’s show this evening.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html#/v/4316070/giuliani-talks-ground-zero-mosque/?playlist_id=86924

8 posted on 08/19/2010 8:23:20 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: PRePublic

Romney takes pass from red media on mowusk, eats chicken without skin.


9 posted on 08/19/2010 8:25:11 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: GOP_Lady

It is truly disgusting to see the same anti-american media who were eagerly hoping a loony right wing Christian would shoot something up so they could pounce on American Christians. Leap to the defense of our enemys in the name of religious freedom. Disgusting.


11 posted on 08/19/2010 8:26:24 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Rome2000

Cool it, Rome.


12 posted on 08/19/2010 8:28:01 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: screaminsunshine

NOW they’re interested in religious freedom.


13 posted on 08/19/2010 8:29:20 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady
He also took direct aim at the imam behind the center, Feisal Abdul Rauf, accusing him of "selling sensitivity" and questioning whether his motives are genuine.

Giuliani continues in the tradition of Republican New York City mayor Fiorello LaGuardia (1933-45). One play from LaGuardia's playbook was to find the enemy's weak spot and drive a sledgehammer into it. Giuliani does it with the faint sound of regret. It's like watching a master assassin at work with the stiletto.

The former mayor praised Democratic Gov. David Paterson for proposing to meet with the project's organizers in hopes of finding an alternative location in Lower Manhattan that would be less controversial.

Another patented LaGuardia play. Pick an enemy, praise him, put him on the spot, and separate him from the rest of his herd. Paterson now has to tap-dance his way out of Giuliani's embrace. This is a death sentence in New York City's liberal Democratic organization, where Giuliani is considered the spawn of Satan -- almost as much as the arch-devil Reagan.

It's fun watching the pros at work.

14 posted on 08/19/2010 8:29:57 PM PDT by Publius (Unless the Constitution is followed, it is simply a piece of paper.)
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To: McGavin999

He is ALWAYS terrific.....


15 posted on 08/19/2010 8:31:43 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Publius
Yep. Mr. Giuiliani is a smart man and a great manager and leader, who actually cares about the people he serves.
16 posted on 08/19/2010 8:31:47 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

I just hope if the mosque gets built, that a few homos are stoned to death, and they start honor killing... Yeah baby, Islam, its a religion of peaces,, of deab people.


17 posted on 08/19/2010 8:32:25 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: GOP_Lady

Sure. They are trying to give cover to Obama the magnificient. I think Rev. Wright should come out of the basement and defend his flock member.


18 posted on 08/19/2010 8:32:28 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: screaminsunshine

I’d love to see that.


19 posted on 08/19/2010 8:34:46 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: shield

Yep. He’s common sense and to the point.

He calls it as it is.


20 posted on 08/19/2010 8:36:01 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

There is no reason for it to be divisive!

Most people do not recognize that what happens in a mosque is sedition. Pure and simple. Islam is not just a “religion”, it is a cult. Larger than that though, it is a political system, it is it’s own government, its judicial...is in its sharia, and its military (jihadis) all rolled into one with one intent ...and that is to rule wherever they take root. It is a invasive, systemic infection looking to take over the host once it has quantum.

This is not just a “religion”, but something that cloaks itself in those terms so it should not be given the same treatment contemplated under the first amendment. The Korans Sharia rules are to consume whatever government there is wherever it goes.
It is political, and it’s goal is to supplant and replace.

The sooner America learns this , the better.

Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. He is doing nothing to protect America as per his oath. Also, as a Muslim, he knows this, he know far better, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.

For all interested...Wanna learn more?

http://thehayride.com/2010/08/louisiana-at-leading-edge-in-fight-against-shariah/#more-5392

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded

Lets keep America, America!

Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. As a Muslim, he knows this, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.


21 posted on 08/19/2010 8:36:49 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: GOP_Lady
Thank you for posting the link. The great ones never lose it.
22 posted on 08/19/2010 8:41:51 PM PDT by Publius (Unless the Constitution is followed, it is simply a piece of paper.)
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To: Publius

You are welcome.

And you are correct! :-)


23 posted on 08/19/2010 8:42:42 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: All

I have a gut feeling that “divisiveness” is exactly what the enemy wants to do to America.

It is using every means to do just that.

Divide and conquer.


24 posted on 08/19/2010 8:44:17 PM PDT by Global2010 (I don't want to comment on that I'll let the other geniuses do that..James Caan)
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To: GOP_Lady

Unfortunately, he heavily serves the NAMBLA crowd.


25 posted on 08/19/2010 8:52:54 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Rome2000

Mitt usually has something to say a month or more after an event. It’s early now. He’s waiting for research reports, poll testing.. before he makes a vague, platitudinous speak


26 posted on 08/19/2010 9:02:13 PM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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To: GOP_Lady
"9/11 Victory Mosque"
27 posted on 08/19/2010 9:03:56 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why are 100% of Rape / Assaults in Oslo, Norway, committed by Muslims?)
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To: GOP_Lady

DUH, I meant Hannity


28 posted on 08/19/2010 9:07:25 PM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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To: McGavin999

Oh, I was going to catch the replay of O’Reilly to see if he was on that show as well.


29 posted on 08/19/2010 9:10:52 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Rome2000

Romney seems as tone-deaf on these ad-hoc news stories as Palin seems to pick the right ones to weigh in on.


30 posted on 08/19/2010 9:12:32 PM PDT by Darth Tokarev (Liberalism: Using intellectualism to justify moral cowardice.)
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Bookmark!


31 posted on 08/19/2010 9:37:47 PM PDT by Britt0n
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To: GOP_Lady
"The question is, should they build it?" he said. "Are they displaying the sensitivity they claim by building it?"

EGGS-ACT-Lee!!!!

Finally somebody's properly framed the debate: the muzzies are insensitive, not us. If we're a little bit touchy over the place where 2500 of our people were massacred, who can blame us?

32 posted on 08/19/2010 9:54:18 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: GOP_Lady
"Divisive," you say?

RINO Giuliani, "alighting upon the obvious, with a sense of surprise."

33 posted on 08/19/2010 10:00:20 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: GOP_Lady

Leave it to the Democrats to side with a religion founded by a child-molesting, mass murdering misogynist.


34 posted on 08/19/2010 11:19:19 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: vox_freedom

His more incisive remarks were about Sharia law: How can they scream “freedom of religion” and then ignore our fundamental freedom from interference by government in religious matters by proposing religious law? A total contradiction.


35 posted on 08/19/2010 11:22:25 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: GOP_Lady

I have my problems with Rudy, but is there any doubt he would have been a better president than McCain.


36 posted on 08/19/2010 11:46:52 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: GOP_Lady

What’s Rudy’s view on Bloomberg “ending” term limits? Rudy was a better mayor, IMHO, despite his RINO tendencies and despite his “drag queen” moment. Rudy would be mayor right now, if he ended up getting rid of term limits, instead of Bloomberg doing so. What a shame!


37 posted on 08/20/2010 12:38:53 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: firebrand

How can they scream “freedom of religion” and then ignore our fundamental freedom from interference by government in religious matters by proposing religious law? A total contradiction.

BAAAMMMMM ON TARGET TARGET DESTROYED FIRE FOR EFFECT


38 posted on 08/20/2010 1:01:51 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: GOP_Lady

The truly sad thing is that, only a few years ago, this would have been obvious to all.


39 posted on 08/20/2010 4:08:31 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Anti-Gunners suffer from Factose Intolerance)
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To: GOP_Lady

Wouldn’t want him as President, but he was a hell of a mayor, and on stuff like this, he’s great. And he’s using the liberals’ favorite words—things like “divisive”—against them. It’s great to watch.

}:-)4


40 posted on 08/20/2010 4:36:04 AM PDT by Moose4 (November 2, 2010--the day that "YES WE CAN" becomes "OH NO YOU DIN'T")
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To: GOP_Lady

This has sent me a clear message about Islam. This mosque is not about worshiping and honoring God. Its about creating division. It demonstrates to me that Islam is about division.


41 posted on 08/20/2010 4:51:32 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: GOP_Lady

Yay for Giuliani. Finally someone has figured out how to frame the debate and use the liberals’ own terms and ideals against them.


42 posted on 08/20/2010 5:35:06 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners, no mercy. 2010 is here...)
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To: GOP_Lady
Osama Bin Laden’s strategy has always been to create the upheaval—through terrorism, propaganda, the ballot and court system—that leads to an American police state. The mosque scam is one battle in that war.
43 posted on 08/20/2010 6:07:08 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: GOP_Lady

It’s more than divisive, it’s out of the question.


44 posted on 08/20/2010 6:31:46 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: firebrand
His more incisive remarks were about Sharia law: How can they scream “freedom of religion” and then ignore our fundamental freedom from interference by government...

Not "incisive" at all:

"They" don't believe in "freedom of religion" and never proclaim that statement. In fact, they oppose all religion except Islam. Ever hear, "there is no God, but Allah"?

45 posted on 08/20/2010 6:33:27 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: GOP_Lady

NEVER FORGET!


46 posted on 08/20/2010 7:02:57 AM PDT by NYer ("God dwells in our midst, in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar." St. Maximilian Kolbe)
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To: Rome2000

Actually, here is what Romney has said about the mosque through his spokesman: Governor Romney opposes the construction of the mosque at Ground Zero. The wishes of the families of the deceased and the potential for extremists to use the mosque for global recruiting and propaganda compel rejection of this site.

Pretty strong position.


47 posted on 08/20/2010 8:36:18 AM PDT by Capt. Jake
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To: himno hero

On threads of this nature, I make it a point of never using an uppercase “I” or “M” when typing Islam or Muslim. To do so would be to render respect to a cult that doesn’t deserve it. Others may continue to do otherwise but that is my practice. That cult will NEVER get any of my respect.


48 posted on 08/20/2010 10:55:18 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (HEY, NAZI PELOUSY, ON NOVEMBER 2, WE WILL DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: NCC-1701

Before anyone calls me on it, I posted my #48 on my iPhone. It must have defaulted to uppercase for those two words I specified. I did not use uppercase for them myself. I never have and never will.


49 posted on 08/20/2010 11:07:02 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (HEY, NAZI PELOUSY, ON NOVEMBER 2, WE WILL DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: GOP_Lady

“Giuliani Says Mosque ‘Divisive’”

No kidding, Julie?


50 posted on 08/20/2010 2:35:54 PM PDT by Grunthor (My coffee creamer is fat free because I am not.)
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