Bill Clinton had 'mentality of an 18-year-old' regarding sex, NPR reporter who covered Bubba says

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[nathanbedford]

An old vanity:

FROM A HIGH TECH LYNCHING TO IMPEACHMENT

Vanity | Nathanbedford

Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:56:08 PM by nathanbedford From High-Tech Lynching to Impeachment

Someday historians will acknowledge the direct causal relationship between the attempted high high-tech lynching of Clarence Thomas and the impeachment of Bill Clinton.

Liberal partisans such as Nina Totenberg, feminists disguised as reporters, contrived to enrage much of the world against Clarence Thomas for alleged offenses which, in the wake of Clinton's sordid grotesqueries and felonies committed during the Monica Lewinsky affair, can in comparison be considered to be but trivialities. What exactly did Thomas do to Anita Hill? She testified for the first time years after the alleged facts, that he (1) exclaimed that there was a "pubic hair" on his coke can and that he (2) had seen the movie Long Dong Silver. She also alleged that Thomas repeatedly (3) asked her out, (4) bragged of his sexual prowess, and (5) said that he had satisfied women with oral sex.

What Bill Clinton did a couple of years later was so egregious that it renders these unsubstantiated allegations merely frivolous, a fey neuroses of a bizarre era: Bill Clinton, in contrast to Thomas, sodomized a young intern in the Oval Office with a cigar and masturbated into the presidential sink; Bill Clinton repeatedly talked dirty to his young intern over the telephone while they mutually masturbated ; Bill Clinton suffered his young intern to fellate him while she was crouched under the presidential desk. I wonder what Nina Totenberg's reaction would have been had she learned that Bill Clinton had committed the atrocity of asking Monica Lewinsky out on a formal date?

Liberals say that the matter of sexual harassment is all about redressing the imbalance of the power relationship between men and women, between master and servant, and between boss and employee. Of course, the relationship of Clinton and Lewinsky fit this template perfectly. But the Clintons did not stop there, they tag-teamed women who complained of sexual mistreatment (even actual assaults) by Bill Clinton and compounded his original crimes. Gennifer Flowers was made to lie publicly to protect Bill Clinton, to sign a perjurious affidavit denying their relationship, thus establishing a Clinton modus operandi and had her apartment ransacked for her pains, or perhaps for her favors. Kathleen Willey was intimidated professionally by ominous strangers. Juanita Broderick was admonished by Hillary Clinton, the implication clear that Broderick was to remain silent about her rape by Bill Clinton. Other women whose silence and lies could not be assured by intimidation were vilified, publicly humiliated, and discredited as "sluts and nuts".

the record revealed many other of outrageous conduct that should make anyone who has even the most cavalier concern for women's rights righteously indignant. The Nina Totenberg's of the world never turned a hair.

Even from the perspective of time it is hard to believe how the liberals succeeded with the Thomas hearings in convulsing a nation over such relatively frivolous charges which were very likely untrue, explicitly denied, and otherwise uncorroborated. For three days the nation sat transfixed before its television sets absorbing a drama played out in the Judiciary Committee of the United States Senate.

As a result of these proceedings it is possible, if not likely, that four or five leftist women were added to the United States Senate as Democrats: Murray, Moseley-Braun, Mikulski, Feinstein, and Boxer. Indeed, 1992, the year following the hearings, became known as the "Year of the Woman." The ripple effect from these proceedings extended beyond politics and beached again in the judiciary as Bill Clinton appointed to the Supreme Court an extreme feminist, an arch advocate for the ACLU, and, in my view, a bloodthirsty abortionist, Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

It is not a stretch to assert that the election of Bill Clinton was clearly advanced by the contrived hysteria surrounding the Clarence Thomas hearings. Clinton's famous sales pitch, "vote for me and you get her - two for the price of one", referring to Hillary Rodham-Clinton, was simply echoing the drumbeating on behalf of Clinton and Rodham by the mainstream media press who had dubbed Hillary, "the smartest woman in the world" in the run-up to The Year of the Woman.

Polls taken during the course of the hearings of Americans who actually watched the proceedings on television and drew their conclusions from what they saw, revealed that Americans believed Clarence Thomas and they did not believe Anita Hill. Polls taken months and years later, after the mainstream media had its relentless way with the public, reflected precisely the opposite sentiment.

After Clinton attained the White House, a coalition of Democrats passed The Violence against Women Act over the opposition of minority Republicans. That pernicious statute federalized domestic violence and distorted our precious presumption of innocence. If there is a saying of the law, "hard cases make bad law", surely there is a corollary, "mass psychosis makes for bad laws." Even the ACLU was led to criticize the excesses of the statute. The Clintons and the Democrats shamelessly exploited the feminist pathology as the national psychosis played out in the Clarence Thomas hearings. They rode it into the White House. But irony had yet a card to play. In addition to the Violence Against Women Act, the Democrats contrived a law which made evidence alleging incidences of sexual-harassment admissible if a defendant in such a lawsuit might have previously engaged in sexual "harassment" against a third unrelated party. The theory behind the law: once a cad always a cad; so evidence of bad behavior on one day is proof of bad behavior on another day. Bill Clinton signed this bill into law. With the stroke of his own pen, he ensured that his own real sexual offenses against Kathleen Willey, Gennifer Flowers, and especially, Monica Lewinsky would become the stuff of Paula Jones' lawsuit.

When the Monica Lewinsky scandal erupted, I was struck by the dichotomy between the reactions of folks here in Germany and back home in America. Later, I was to be struck by a similar dichotomy in reaction to the invasion of Iraq. The unanimity of opinion in Germany was striking. Germans simply could not believe America had lost its mind over a trivial matter like sex and they certainly could not believe that the world's only superpower would overthrow its government over a few bumps and tickles. Ultimately, the German view would come to prevail in America and the case in impeachment against Bill Clinton would not lie in the Senate. The assault on Clarence Thomas also failed, but no one ever said he got any bumps or tickles in compensation for his ordeal. To the contrary and unto this day he is denied by the left even the decency of an acknowledgment that he has by every standard conducted himself utterly free of taint. Justice Thomas' only compensation would be the quiet inner satisfaction that comes from a righteous life, a "Normal Christian Life,"

I did not share the German view then and I do not hold it now. I believe that Bill Clinton committed high crimes and misdemeanors in trying to fix a civil trial (for money and reputation), that he conspired to fix a court case (with Monica Lewinsky, Betty Currie), that in furtherance of that conspiracy he suborned perjury (of Monica Lewinsky, Betty Currie), conspired to hide evidence, hid evidence (gifts hidden under the bed), and actually committed perjury (too notorious to require recounting). These were all felonies and as such they qualify as "high crimes and misdemeanors" under the constitutional standard for impeaching a president. Further, the president is the chief law enforcement officer in the land and by committing a string of felonies he breached his constitutional duty to see to the faithful execution of the laws-which misfeasance constitutes additional impeachable offenses. One need only consider the brouhaha over the alleged misrepresentations made to Congress by Attorney General Gonzales, or the ordeal of Scooter Libby, to understand the gravity of the real offenses committed by Clinton.

As the Lewinsky impeachment drama played out and it became apparent that Slick would slither around impeachment, those of us who had a memory span larger than a gnat and so recalled the hysteria of the Clarence Thomas hearings, were utterly dumbfounded. I can recall explaining to my German friends and neighbors that the Monica Lewinsky affair was not just about sex but about the very real and important felonies I have described. One could tell from the expression on their faces that they had never heard this information before yet they received it quite skeptically, even begrudgingly. I challenge any reader to lay out Bill Clinton’s crimes to your apolitical American friends and neighbors. I bet you will get the same reaction today of surprise, indifference, and even hostility from most Americans. Like the vines of Angkor Wat, time has shrouded Clinton's crimes.

It is a sure bet that few of them will remember the Clarence Thomas hearings, their context and aftermath, much less will they be aware of the chain of causation which led from the near high tech lynching of Clarence Thomas to the impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton.

[bill1952]

>t is not uncommon for them to be immature wrt sex...

Why is having a healthy sex drive “immature??”
I believe that such “moral” codes were written by women. :) Older women who have a libido that is greatly diminished.

I agree, its a testosterone thing.
Were men to exercise much more than they do after 30, they would find that their testosterone levels stay normal.

It is more complicated with women, but the underlying concept is the same. - They need to exercise far more than most of them do.
It is unnatural to do nothing, but unfortunately, thats the way most people live...and none of this excuses the lack of discretion and judgment on Clinton's part.
Even 18 year olds are capable of controlling themselves and not behave like mindless rutting animals.

[Carley]

I thought the entire Monica story was a vast right wing conspiracy.

[bvw]

In Totenberg's opinion, it was Clinton's inability to face his wife, Hillary Clinton, that led him to make that fateful lie during a deposition.

We know that's BS. Clinton was a habitual liar, and Hillary knew, if not about all the specifics, certainly in general that Clinton was a constant pervert, sexual assaulter, hitting on many woman as forcibly as he wanted, which could include forcible rape.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

Why is having a healthy sex drive “immature??”

I didn't say that, now did I?

Have a great day.

[Darkwolf377]

But we're not talking about young people, are we? We're talking about grown men in their forties and fifties like Pres. Clinton.

I mentioned my experience with young people because we're talking about where this stuff comes from--right? Adults don't just suddenly BECOME that way when they're in forties or fifties. Follow?

It is not uncommon for them to be immature wrt sex. Whereas grown women in their forties and fifties, they're usually quite mature about it.

LOL

Ridiculous.

That Oprah-level spin has been with us for years.

Men cheat and are portrayed as cheaters. Now, who are they cheating with?

And no, it ain't with 18-year-olds except in the case of the tiny number of powerful people like Clinton.

Might have something to do with the unequal loads of testosterone...and consequences. Yathink?

You can buy that bull, but as I said, I see where all this stuff comes from. Women are just as manipulative, just as childish, and just as impulsive with sex as men. Women just have better ad copy, and men don't speak up about it because they're easily branded sexists for painting as you do--while women are "empowered" when they spread the ridiculous simplistic lies you are spreading here.

But we know it makes you feel all smart and victim-like, which women love, so we pat you on the head metaphorically and say "That's right, dear, we're all immature, and you've all got the answers and maturity--Lifetime says so!"

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

barack obama has the ‘mentality of a 7-year-old’ regarding government.

Worse, he has the mentality of an Ivy Leaguer.

[bvw]

Thanks for that re-posting. These lies by the propagandist Totenberg need to be energetically refuted.

[Logic n' Reason]

IMMHO....little billy clintoon was a pig....is a pig....and will remain a pig until his last wasted breath on this planet.

Further....he was a master manipulator, waffler, and lier.....all the traits of a master politician (see: john mcloser)

[Constitution Day]

Whoa!

Thanks for the link, I have never heard of Tynt. I’ve seen that on a few sites and it is highly annoying!!

[Darkwolf377]

The liberals tried to portray Clarence Thomas as the cliche’d “scary black man” because they were whipped up in their Teddy Kennedy-sponsored frenzy after defeating Bork. They didn’t give a crap about civil rights and equality all of a sudden because their holy sacrament—abortion—was at risk.

So they got Anita Hill, and tried to portray her as this powerful, smart, independent minority woman and then pivot to portray Thomas as the scary, thuggish, sex-obsessed darkie.

It was quiet a show, and they almost got away with it.

Nina Totenberg was there with her pursed lips and her nauseating thin-lipped smile, telling us all how awful Thomas was and how heroic was this strong, intelligent woman...who was (pivot again) this quiet, shy widdle girl-woman being intimidated and threatened by...a man asking her out.

Thanks for reposting your vanity, a great read as always.

[DJ MacWoW]

I mean, Gawd, there were so many cases where there was nothing to go on except the honesty of the C-in-C and here the guy is lying just to avoid his old lady. How is that not extremely revealing about how honest he really is on any other subject?

Most people don't think like that now. Logic is a lost art except to conservatives.

[COBOL2Java]

WTH does Frank know about moral moorings?!

With Liberals, it's all subjective. In Frank's case, his moral moorings aren't much to speak of, so he assumes his is the highest in the land.

That's Barney's moral mooring in the center of the photograph; sometimes at low tide you can actually see it.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

Have a great day!

[IronJack]

You’re a day late and a dollar short, Nina. While Slick was president, you stood in the legion of lackeys who defended his every gaffe. Now we’re supposed to believe you’ve gone from Kneelin’ Totin’water — Lapdog — to Nina Totenburg — Intrepid Journalist?

All you did was wait ten years for a concensus to emerge and then play echo chamber.

No thanks.

[Cvengr]

Some people mature and are further sanctified in righteousness through faith in Christ as they advance in life. Others who reject what God provides, seeking either an independent approach to life, separate from what He provides, either by intention or through ignorance, simply further degenerate in their thinking away from His Plan.

The office of the President is a senior executive position, which is a worldly advancement for mature thinkers.

That maturity might be a maturity in degeneracy or a maturity in sanctification.

Since the person occupying the office is elected, the status of the person, either as a degenerate or as a sanctified person, is also a reflection of the maturity of the nation.

Such degeneracy isn’t referring to moral degeneracy, although such is indeed sinful, but to soulish degeneracy, usually first identifiable in arrogance.

On the other hand, most men who mature through faith in Christ, in that same age group, have advanced beyond early temptations of sexual immorality, and are preoccupied in their thinking with other more germane issues in their life.

Especially in the position as the President, where most occupants are far more tempted to perform worldly good works than in sexual power, such temptations are not even in the same league as those normally faced by the President.

The incident reflected far more the lack of virtue in those in the Presidency and those surrounding the President.

Anybody who doesn’t associate virtue with the Lewinsky scandal, doesn’t understand why more mature sanctified men continue to live through faith in Christ, but may be easily tempted by a litany of arrogant temptations.

[purplelobster]

I never saw much difference between Roger Clinton and Bill Clinton. Is baffling how one of them became President. Dems should nominate Roger in ‘12

[Darkwolf377]

You too! Stay away from men! They’re evil! :P

[Servant of the Cross]

Nina, Nina, Nina. Now you tell us. Um, Nina, does this not expose you as a liberal sycophant in the tank for the Dems. If it had been a GOP president that you were covering, this would have come out immediately as an objective unbiased NPR reporter just doing her job.

[gitmo]

LOL. Now THAT’S funny.