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What Spreads Faster Than Bedbugs? Social Stigma (you can thank the enviro-whackos for this one!)
The New York Times ^ | 2010-08-21 | Emily B. Hager

Posted on 08/20/2010 7:33:23 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Jeremy Sparig spent months fighting bedbugs. Now, to some people, he is like a mattress left on the street, something best avoided in these times.

“They don’t want to hug you anymore; they don’t want you coming over,” said Mr. Sparig, of East Williamsburg, Brooklyn. “You’re like a leper.”

At the Brooklyn district attorney’s office, which recently had a bedbug breakout, defense lawyers are skittish about visiting, and it is not because of the fierce prosecutors.

Even Steven Smollens, a housing lawyer who has helped many tenants with bedbugs, has his guard up. Those clients are barred from his office. “I meet outside,” he said. “There’s a Starbucks across the street.”

Beyond the bites and the itching, the bother and the expense, victims of the nation’s most recent plague are finding that an invisible scourge awaits them in the form of bedbug stigma. Friends begin to keep their distance. Invitations are rescinded. For months, one woman said, her mother was afraid to tell her that she had an infestation. When she found out and went to clean her mother’s apartment, she said, “Nobody wanted to help me.”

Fear and suspicion are creeping into the social fabric wherever bedbugs are turning up, which is almost everywhere: “Public health agencies across the country have been overwhelmed by complaints about bedbugs,” said a joint statement this month from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Environmental Protection Agency.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bedbugcity; bedbugs; ddt; democrats; infestation; vermin
Bedbugs, once nearly eradicated, have spread across New York City, in part because of the decline in the use of DDT.

Thank you, enviro-whackos!

1 posted on 08/20/2010 7:33:27 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Morons, DDT caused birth defects, hello. It’s probably bio-warfare. There are better insecticides than DDT, but you do have to spend money on the exterminator


2 posted on 08/20/2010 7:43:40 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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To: rabscuttle385
Rachel Carson deserves the same ignominy as any mass murderer in history.How many millions have died because of the ban on DDT. It's another glaring example of what happens when liberals emote falsehoods as facts and we suffer the law of unintended consequences.
3 posted on 08/20/2010 7:44:39 PM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is hs fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: Apercu

Well good grief, they only bite at night. Take the mattress out and spray around all the crevices with a good bug spray and also around the bedroom. Do this every spring and they won’t be much of a bother. I survived them as a child. Never suffered any lasting effects. LOL


4 posted on 08/20/2010 7:49:25 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: yldstrk
Morons, DDT caused birth defects, hello. It’s probably bio-warfare.

Caused birth defects? Genetic retards cause birth defects. Ignorance and megalomania are also causes, and heavy burdens to go through life with.

5 posted on 08/20/2010 7:49:51 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: rabscuttle385

This infestation has deprived me of one of my favorite past times...dumpster diving. (Curb side actually) I’ve picked up case goods,repaired them and painted them for resale. Now, I cannot. Bedbug live EVERYWHERE and can go for up to one year without food.
But even some of the best neighborhoods are suffering the same plague....
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978375644


6 posted on 08/20/2010 7:52:01 PM PDT by griswold3 ('Regulation and law without enforcement is no law at all)
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To: yldstrk

>>Morons, DDT caused birth defects, hello<<

Are you calling FReepers, morons?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/710158/posts


7 posted on 08/20/2010 7:52:21 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: yldstrk

Department of Health and Human Services, Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry:

“How can DDT, DDE, and DDD affect children?
There are no studies on the health effects of children exposed to DDT, DDE, or DDD. We can assume that children exposed to large amounts of DDT will have health effects similar to the effects seen in adults. However, we do not know whether children differ from adults in their susceptibility to these substances.

There is no evidence that DDT, DDE, or DDD cause birth defects in people. A study showed that teenage boys whose mothers had higher DDE amounts in the blood when they were pregnant were taller than those whose mothers had lower DDE levels. However, a different study found the opposite in preteen girls. The reason for the discrepancy between these studies is unknown.

Studies in rats have shown that DDT and DDE can mimic the action of natural hormones and in this way affect the development of the reproductive and nervous systems. Puberty was delayed in male rats given high amounts of DDE as juveniles. This could possibly happen in humans. A study in mice showed that exposure to DDT during the first weeks of life may cause neurobehavioral problems later in life.”

Link:http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts35.html

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
John Adams 1770


8 posted on 08/20/2010 7:53:11 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: yldstrk

100 things you should know about DDT (A Reprint For Earth Day)
http://www.junkscience.com/ddtfaq.htm#ref6

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/670589/posts#1


9 posted on 08/20/2010 7:53:54 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five business worries of the Amercan Farmer for the past 50 years)
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To: netmilsmom

You were quicker than I was.


10 posted on 08/20/2010 7:54:34 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: yldstrk

There were never any birth defects, pure junk science.


11 posted on 08/20/2010 7:57:34 PM PDT by bray (A FReeper book http://www.brayincandy.com/id239.html)
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To: WVNan
Bedbugs are a minor nuisance compared to malaria & dengue carrying mosquitoes which DDT controlled along with bed bugs and other insects.
12 posted on 08/20/2010 7:58:31 PM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is hs fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: IrishCatholic

I was pretty taken aback!

Morons?


13 posted on 08/20/2010 8:04:09 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: IrishCatholic

When I was a kid, all of us kids knew the whine of the DDT truck coming down the street. We made a bee-line for our bikes and rode for miles engulfed in the “smoke.”

That was 40+ years ago.


14 posted on 08/20/2010 8:07:26 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: rabscuttle385

This stuff kills them because it cuts into the shell and they dehydrate. You can buy it at any garden nursery for about 10$.

15 posted on 08/20/2010 8:09:23 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: netmilsmom

Some people are deficient in facts, some in manners, some in both.


16 posted on 08/20/2010 8:19:11 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Nateman

So you could just dump a bag of diatomaceous earth on your bed?


17 posted on 08/20/2010 8:20:52 PM PDT by Voltage
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To: WVNan

They’ve got cooties.


18 posted on 08/20/2010 8:25:08 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Voltage
So you could just dump a bag of diatomaceous earth on your bed?

Yes. The only drawback is the dust. Use a face mask when spreading it around. Freshwater diatomaceous earth is even edible.

19 posted on 08/20/2010 8:25:58 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: Apercu

The old biddy and her book have killed millions of adults and children across the globe. But some eagles eggs are getting a harder shell (at least the eggs of birds was the excuse for banning DDT)


20 posted on 08/20/2010 8:29:38 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: rabscuttle385; Clemenza
Sure glad I have NO trips to NYC in my future -- and that runs several years out.

It was kind of nice in 1999, not at all nice around 1981, and in 2008 seemed to be slipping backwards. But whatever. Been there, done enough, and am happy to leave NYers to continue gazing at their own navels thinking it's the whole world. Please keep thinking that. Please.

Clemenza, you get an exemption. You have a bona fide preference.

21 posted on 08/20/2010 8:31:16 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: IrishCatholic

Lots of DDT BS around,...when I was a kid, the city use to go down every street in Detroit and fog to kill misquitos and bugs.....Lots of us 70 and up adults didn’t suffer any problems.....Malaria was almost a global wipe out now it kills millions in the third world.....A lot of us adults have been around long enought to spot bull shit when we hear it...


22 posted on 08/20/2010 8:33:44 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Voltage

LOL good answer....just what I want to sleep in...


23 posted on 08/20/2010 8:35:15 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny
.....Lots of us 70 and up adults didn’t suffer any problems.....

Sometimes, we even followed the truck down the street...and played in the mist.

24 posted on 08/20/2010 8:35:35 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: rabscuttle385
Even Steven Smollens, a housing lawyer who has helped many tenants with bedbugs, has his guard up. Those clients are barred from his office. "I meet outside," he said. "There's a Starbucks across the street."

I'm sure the owner of that Starbucks will be glad to read this.

25 posted on 08/20/2010 8:35:52 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: rabscuttle385

Biblical pestilence in NYC? Who would have expected that?


26 posted on 08/20/2010 8:38:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: goat granny

But GG, you’d be sleeping alone and bugless. :-D


27 posted on 08/20/2010 8:39:46 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: rabscuttle385

btt


28 posted on 08/20/2010 9:14:30 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: okie01

OMG we actually road bikes without helmets, climbed trees for fun and my mother caught me using the next door neighbors fense to climb on the roof of our garage...it was great up there for an 8 year old....had to get sneaky after mom caught me.....oh the horror and humanity....;O)


29 posted on 08/20/2010 9:57:13 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: DJ MacWoW
LOL only sleep alone recently, my lab has hip problems and wont jump up on the bed anymore....but that bitch was somewhat of a bed hog....and I don't have to vacuum my bed anymore
30 posted on 08/20/2010 10:00:14 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Nateman
This stuff kills them because it cuts into the shell and they dehydrate. You can buy it at any garden nursery for about 10$

And it has staying power. We sprinkled it on the concrete below the sub-flooring we were installing in the basement before we turned that into living space. That was nearly 15 years ago, and we have never seen any live bugs down there.

That is really amazing as the basement has a sliding glass door to the back yard and the kids always went in an out that to play. We even had a exterminator check the house a few years ago because on of the other townhouses in our building had termites. None were found in ours.

The only bad thing is it is dusty and you need to wear masks while initially building like that with it. A physician friend back then had said it might cause silicosis if breathed in any quantity. Made sense, so we did.
31 posted on 08/20/2010 10:05:11 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: goat granny
We rode in the back of the pick-up, too.

Not to mention playing dodgeball in grade school.

Worse, we went rabbit hunting...with our own shotgun. And varmint hunting, as well...with our own .22 rifle. And went fishing...down on the creek where water moccasins were known to hang out.

It wouldn't be much fun being a kid nowadays..

32 posted on 08/20/2010 10:14:22 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Nateman
Yes. The only drawback is the dust.

Also, it is NOT fast acting. The targeted insects travel over it (when dry) and it cuts them. Then they die later. Oh and it can be eaten when wet. It really only works on things bigger than bugs and mainly when dry.
33 posted on 08/20/2010 10:15:36 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: okie01

In High school, the ROTC brought their own rifles to school once a week for class...no drive by shooting either...people didn’t change, society did and now everything is to be feared...yuk.....and crooks are just victims of society, double yuk


34 posted on 08/20/2010 10:29:03 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny; IrishCatholic; okie01
To: IrishCatholic ***...when I was a kid, the city use to go down every street in Detroit and fog to kill misquitos and bugs.....Lots of us 70 and up adults didn’t suffer any problems***

Same here. we used to go out into the spray when they sprayed DDT for mosquitos along the Animas river in Farmington,NM back in 1956.

In the military we sprayed the inside of our KC-135 with DDT to keep the mosquitos down while on the flight line in Thailand.


35 posted on 08/20/2010 11:01:12 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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To: Apercu

A minor nuisance? From what I’ve heard it’s IMPOSSIBLE to get rid of them. They not only hide in furniture, cushions, mattresses, pillows, etc., but also behind electrical outlets and vents and in hard-to-see places. I’ve read about people that just pick up and leave everything behind in their houses and apartments because they can’t get rid of them. I have some friends that no longer travel to Vegas or Hawaii because of the problem.


36 posted on 08/21/2010 1:34:17 AM PDT by snowflake2428
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To: snowflake2428
COMPARED is the operative word. Bed bugs don't kill people thru disease a la mosquitoes.
37 posted on 08/21/2010 7:52:09 AM PDT by Apercu ("A man's character is hs fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: yldstrk
I think Rachel Carson is singularly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people.

John Stossel on DDT

38 posted on 08/21/2010 9:05:57 AM PDT by BufordP (Once a Marine - always a Marine ... Until Jack Murtha.)
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To: sionnsar

Thanks for the kind words. Some of us our two maladjusted to live anywhere else. Besides, it is high comedy making fun of your neighbors, particularly those who were not even raised in the area, yet adopt all the pretensions of the Manhattan/Park Slope Axis of Dweebals.


39 posted on 08/21/2010 6:48:10 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: sionnsar
Thanks for the kind words. Some of us ARE TOO* maladjusted to live anywhere else. Besides, it is high comedy making fun of your neighbors, particularly those who were not even raised in the area, yet adopt all the pretensions of the Manhattan/Park Slope Axis of Dweebals.

*I just returned from imbibing too much sangria, so my spelling was off in the earlier post.

40 posted on 08/21/2010 6:48:49 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza
LOL!

Seriously, I enjoyed my last visit though January is not a good time to visit there. I spent most of the time in meetings anyway. But St. Thomas 5th Ave(?) was an absolute delight -- oh my, do they have "high church" down so well!

41 posted on 08/22/2010 3:35:13 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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