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Can Europe Survive Its Population Plunge? (Auto-Genocide -- or Geno-Suicide -- of a Civililation)
InsideCatholic ^ | Augut 20, 2010 | Mary Jo Anderson

Posted on 08/21/2010 7:02:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Can Europe Survive Its Population Plunge?"

No, not the Europe from which most of America's ancestors came. Europe's muslim invaders, however, appear to be breeding like cockroaches, much like our own foreign invaders. And we know that cockroaches always survive.

101 posted on 08/22/2010 3:03:30 PM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

No, Europe as we know it cannot survive. And only a fool believes that it can’t happen here or that the inevitable slide into darkness isn’t already well under way. The only real question is how to ensure that the shift in demographics doesn’t necessarily lead to the loss of the ideals of this Republic. Even during the dark ages there was a spark of intellectualism and science and letters, much of it preserved by the Church, in order to see a rebirth that survives to this day. I’m afraid that the Church is I’ll equipped to do it again, so it is up to all of us to, as Cormac McCarthy would say, carry the fire. Make sure your kids and grandkids know, make sure they pass it on.


102 posted on 08/22/2010 3:53:58 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: WorldviewDad
before science told us... God had already told us that Eve was the mother of all the living...we all share the same family tree.

Amen! thank you!

103 posted on 08/22/2010 7:42:28 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Rest in peace, Congressman BillyBob.)
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To: Jack Black

But remember also, when the Western Empire fell, many we as disillusioned with Christianity as with paganism.

Much like Gibbon would many years later, when Rome was sacked by Alaric many blamed Christianity.

But you are right, the hold the Church had on the ruling class was lost in WWI. At least in Europe. What is interesting is that Russia is trying very hard to become Holy Russia again.


104 posted on 08/22/2010 7:52:29 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Decent analysis, except it neglected the obvious and millennial old standard European solution to conundrums like this - war on a massive scale.

And the centuries old history Islam has in being beaten back to the stone age.

I don't see Islam changing their track record.

I also do not believe the death spiral was unforeseen at all. I believe that the political elites of Europe wanted a much lighter population density for their continent, knew what was about to ensue, and what will be required to reverse things.

When one attempts to remove the possibility of planned intentional war from ones analysis, the best one can come up with is a half assed treatise like this one.

105 posted on 08/22/2010 8:57:21 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Albion Wilde
I think the problem of answering your posts is the inherent conflict in your own position. You appear to believe in your own race’s superiority, but seem to take no comfort in it. You can’t have it both ways.

An intersting insight I'm going to think about. Thanks!

Offhand I don't think I would say the white race is 'superior', blacks clearly are better at some things, Asians at others. What I would say is that there are statistically significant differences that can't be papered over.

106 posted on 08/23/2010 10:22:27 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: WorldviewDad
African Christian's IQs are not different from other Africans.

Come into the modern scientific age and deal with the reality that “race” does not exist.

That's silly liberal clap-trap. Of course race exsits! No one in the real world has any problem sorting it out: not the government, not sports fans, not writers, not artists, not scientists.

As most of the human genetic code is broken it will be easier to understand these things, not harder as you assert. Already Yashiva University in NYC has shown that Ashkenazi Jews are related to Sephadic Jews at about the same percent as fourth-cousins!. Many other interesting facts will follow.

The Scientific American is an intensely political journal, as indicated by it's one-sided coverage of Global Warming.

The fact that we are all of the same family tree doesn't mean we aren't composed of different races. Great Danes and Poodles are both dogs, but they are not the same breed, don't have the same temperment, size, inbred skills or abilities. This is what 50,000 to 100,000 years of genetic drift will create. (100,000 years = approx. 1/2 million human generations. So in another 1/2 million generations, if we survive that long, we may have created new races.)

107 posted on 08/23/2010 10:32:43 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Jack Black; Albion Wilde; Quix
So the idea that we are all related to each other as found in Scripture and now supported by science is “silly liberal clap-trap”...interesting.

“Of course race exsits!”...Why?...Because you say so?...Because culture still decides to divide people based on looks?

“Great Danes and Poodles are both dogs, but they are not the same breed, don't have the same temperment, size, inbred skills or abilities”...I would be care full with statements like this. This is the kind of thinking that supports racist views when it is applied to people. It has led in the past to wholesale murder of some of those groups we call “races”.

108 posted on 08/24/2010 9:19:41 AM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: WorldviewDad

I live in the same consensus reality as 95% of other Americans were simple and obvious things like race exist.

It exists for the schools that measure success by race, in the census and demographic studies, in everyday conversation between people. Most everybody I knows has no problem filling out the “race” box on whatever form it’s required on. Many of my friends are quite proud of their race. Almost every Black and Chinese person I know will admit to racial pride. It exists in sports, though its often considered impolite to talk about.

Race is about a lot more than “looks”. Take a look at the finalists in the 100 meter dash at the Olymipics. There hasn’t been a non-black on that starting line since the 1970s.

As for thinking about race and talking about it, many people manage to do so daily without “supporting wholesale murder of those groups we call ;races’”.

So, I will continue to live in the real world where race is one of the inheritences we humans are born with, along with our individual genetics, our nationality, and our cultural setting. Where race is an intersting and useful tool for evaluating different aspects of our society.

And you can continue to profess your weird Scientific American/ Liberal Deconstructionist / Biblically Sanctioned fringe belief that there is no such thing as race.

Funny, almost everyone I’ve met who thinks this is White. Which race is in steep decline worldwide and now constitutes less than 8% of the world population vs. 25% in 1900? The race composed of those who believe race doesn’t exist!

And which race is beat upon by mobs of another race, but still can’t even admit what’s going on? Even when the perps are bragging about “beat whitey night”. To paraphrase the old saying “you may not believe in race, but race believes in you!”.

I think there is no further point in continuing this conversation. You have come very close to invoking Godwin’s Law with your last comment, anyway.


109 posted on 08/25/2010 8:46:11 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Jack Black

I would agree with you on the point that most people have no problem filling out the race box on forms. And that through out our culture be it schools, census, sports, etc that people identify themselves by race...because culture has trained them to. My point was that there is no Biblical or scientific point to “race” but that it is mostly cultural. I find it upsetting that people try to lump all of a “race...culture group” of people together and then discount them. If this makes my a “liberal” in your eyes...so be it...put a label on me...

I would also agree that it does not look like there is any point to continue this conversation...I have all ready been labeled


110 posted on 08/25/2010 11:26:27 AM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: CarWashMan
I wonder why European countries do not land dozens of jets in Mexico City everyday and just take anyone who will get on them.

Possibly because they've visited Los Angeles and seen the long term results of that.

111 posted on 09/13/2010 2:19:56 AM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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