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35 immigrants held hostage in Baldwin Park, CA
ABC-7 News LA ^ | August 20, 2010 | By Leanne Suter

Posted on 08/21/2010 7:49:41 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Dozens of undocumented immigrants were taken into custody Friday morning, and two men were arrested for holding them against their will.

Authorities said 35 immigrants, including a 12-year-old boy, were discovered in a home on La Rica Avenue in Baldwin Park.

Officials arrested the two alleged captors Thursday night. Both men are from Guatemala and were taken into federal custody.

When officials arrived, they found 30 juvenile males and five adult females inside an 800-square-foot home.

Officials said the hostages were being held at the house until family members paid a ransom for their release.

According to authorities, all of the immigrants were smuggled into the country from Mexico and Central America.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; centralamerica; failure; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; importingcrime; mexico

1 posted on 08/21/2010 7:49:42 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How many of those people understand that one of their Emperors sold much of their land to the United States? I believe that California was sold for about $2 Million. They were sold out by their own government.


2 posted on 08/21/2010 7:52:47 AM PDT by RC2 (Remember who we are. "I am America")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just another teachable moment about other cultures.


3 posted on 08/21/2010 7:54:49 AM PDT by csvset
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To: RC2
They were sold out by their own government.

Yes they did and actually it was $15,000,000 and included a lot more then just California. We also sent about 50,000 of our military representatives to Mexico City to help them make their decision.

4 posted on 08/21/2010 8:02:32 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

THEY ARE NOT UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS. THEY ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS. ENOUGH OF THIS PC CRAP!


5 posted on 08/21/2010 8:05:17 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: Michael.SF.
"We also sent about 50,000 of our military representatives to Mexico City to help them make their decision."

So we could have been like the Spanish and kept it all? Ingrates.

6 posted on 08/21/2010 8:07:29 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr they all are illegalls!!! not undocumented immigrants...


7 posted on 08/21/2010 8:07:46 AM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd,you get no further than the crowd")
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To: RC2

“How many of those people understand that one of their Emperors sold much of their land to the United States? I believe that California was sold for about $2 Million. They were sold out by their own government.”

What a great point. Another one often not brought up,(but related to this subject in another way) is that Africa itself sold it’s own people, the criminals or ones who had gone against society, but who were black, in the millions for purposes of transatlantic slavery.

The Muslims bought and sold slaves as recently as 1950s.

Massachusetts was the first state to legalize slavery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery


8 posted on 08/21/2010 8:11:26 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Borders are safe..and secure..I am sure we will get them a better home and good job working for the city until their studen loans come in ..then they can just deal drugs.


9 posted on 08/21/2010 8:16:17 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Did they ever rebuild the baldwin park dam?


10 posted on 08/21/2010 8:18:33 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Flag_This
LOL. Yes exactly!

If memory serves, I believe we originally offered them 25 million for the same land. But later we deducted the travel expenses for the guys that went to close the deal.

11 posted on 08/21/2010 8:23:21 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: Michael.SF.
"But later we deducted the travel expenses for the guys that went to close the deal."

And then they reimbursed themselves by nationalizing the railroads, mines and oil fields engineered and built by American companies.

13 posted on 08/21/2010 8:33:36 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“immigrants”?


14 posted on 08/21/2010 8:34:55 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR1fDL7x1Sg)
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To: richardtavor
THEY ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS. ENOUGH OF THIS PC CRAP!

You're to kind. Calling them "illegal" implies there's a way to make them legal. They're invaders, and should be treated the same way Pakistanis are when they enter Afghanistan illegally.

15 posted on 08/21/2010 8:36:32 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: RC2

How many of those people understand that one of their Emperors sold much of their land to the United States? I believe that California was sold for about $2 Million. They were sold out by their own government.>>>>>>>>>>

These illegal aliens are mostly from Guatemala so that does not apply


16 posted on 08/21/2010 8:38:48 AM PDT by dennisw (2012)
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To: Flag_This; Michael.SF.
"We also sent about 50,000 of our military representatives to Mexico City to help them make their decision."

It's funny how Santa Anna was eagerly brokering a deal to sell the disputed territories and California to the US while he was in power - at about 1/2 the price paid under the terms of Gaudalupe-Hildago.

He came back from exile in Cuba to lead the Mexican Army against the US in the Mexican American war (the man on the white horse, heheh). Our side won, but no-one was really happy about it...

17 posted on 08/21/2010 8:50:07 AM PDT by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. and every day...because some day soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: grania; richardtavor
The most accurate term is

"Criminal Invaders".


18 posted on 08/21/2010 8:55:30 AM PDT by TXnMA (Sez Br'er Rabbit to Br'er Fox: "Pleeeese don't throw me in dat brier patch!")
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To: grania

Like their monument proclaims... it was better before they were here.


19 posted on 08/21/2010 8:55:58 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman (Luke 23:31)
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To: no-s
He came back from exile in Cuba to lead the Mexican Army against the US in the Mexican American war (the man on the white horse, heheh). Our side won, but no-one was really happy about it...

I recall reading that, at the time, many mexicans believed it was actually a clever American plot allowing Santa Anna to return to mexico to help fight against the U.S. during the mexican / American war.

20 posted on 08/21/2010 8:55:58 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Michael.SF.

“They were sold out by their own government.”

***Yes they did and actually it was $15,000,000 and included a lot more then just California.***

The US captured all of Mexico, then paid the Mexican government to give up all claim to just the area north of the Rio Grande and Salt, or Gila rivers, the later purchased he Gadsen area of Arizona.

That $15,000,000 was in GOLD. Later the US bought the Gadsen Purchase area for more, again in GOLD.

Mexico gave up ALL CLAIM to the areas bought.


21 posted on 08/21/2010 8:58:40 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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To: Flag_This
I recall reading that, at the time, many mexicans believed it was actually a clever American plot allowing Santa Anna to return to mexico

"Never attribute to malice that which may be adequately explained by stupidity"...

22 posted on 08/21/2010 9:00:15 AM PDT by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. and every day...because some day soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: no-s
"Never attribute to malice that which may be adequately explained by stupidity"...

It does illustrate mexico's fine old tradition of blaming America for all their problems, though.

23 posted on 08/21/2010 9:03:45 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: TXnMA; grania

I refer to them as Illegal Insurgent Criminal Invading Colonists.

They are trying to colonize the USA.

IMO it’s an act of war.


24 posted on 08/21/2010 9:19:23 AM PDT by Syncro (JOE MILLER MONEY BOMB! Alaska's Next Senator! : >)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

All true. But if we are being honest about this, it was done at the point of a gun.


25 posted on 08/21/2010 9:38:12 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But isn’t that what many of the Hispanics are rallying about? They want the kidnapping, rape, and ransom situations to continue to their fellow countrymen?? I mean, they could rally to shut the borders so a more human way for them to get here could be developed but that’s not what they want.


26 posted on 08/21/2010 9:42:18 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Michael.SF.

***All true. But if we are being honest about this, it was done at the point of a gun.***

A little more background..Texas wins independence from Mexico, claims the Rio Grande as the border. Mexico says no, it’s the Nueches river.

Great Britain recognizes Texas and the Rio Grande border, suggests a treaty between Canada, Texas and Mexico against the US. Probably because the Oregon teritories ar heating up.(54-40 or Fight).

Texas is horrified about turning against the US, calls for statehood. The US agrees, seeing the “back door” is open and rushes troops to the Rio Grande, because the biggest power in the word, Great Britain says it is the Texas border, and builds a fort.

Mexico begins bombarding the fort, kills an American soldier named BROWN. and the war is on...

Basicly, Mexico sold the northern territories to get the Americans to leave Mexico.

Ain’t history great!


27 posted on 08/21/2010 10:09:19 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
We are on the same page and have no disagreement with anything you have said.

The only point of my original post, on this thread, was to point out that saying "Mexico sold California to the US." and not even mention the war that was fought prior to the sale ignores a very important factor that led up to the sale.

28 posted on 08/21/2010 2:10:22 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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