Skip to comments.Why John McCain isn't in more trouble for Arizona Senate primary
Posted on 08/21/2010 11:10:16 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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There’s still time! Ping
Maybe its Johns committee work...and the pork list he leaves himself off of every year..while cutting deals with democrats.
“His campaign has spent about $20 million, compared with Hayworths roughly $2.5 million.”
Yep, and roughly the same goes for Sharron Angle and Harry Reid with his enormous campaign chest. There is some consolation in the fact that Sharron is running neck and neck with Harry.
I tried to watch the local Arizona news about the captured fugitives last night. It was impossible. One hateful political ad after another. I couldn’t get through the “news” and had to go to another, less hateful, channel. I’ve got a feeling that it is going to get REALLY UGLY between now and November. The communists are desperate.
Response: Well, it looks like McCain will survive. It was so hopeful just a few months ago. Lord! We cannot get rid of these clowns. Everybody knows what he will do on the immigration issue once he is elected i.e. 80,000,000 Mexicans will be citizens overnight!
What was the "other guys" baggage?
Hayworth was not the candidate to upset McCain.
Hayworth was a re run when we needed a new fresh face with NO baggage.
I can’t stand McCain, but since when is The Christian Science Monitor a liberal rag?
Agree..but there was nobody else..so what JD has done is force McCain further to the right, and hopefully make it harder for him to “modify” his positions post election..remember also, that the GOP caucus in the Senate will be much more conservative..
That should have been spent against the CommiecRats that have infested the White Hut.
Instead HE (Juan Mc Lame) decided to spend it against Conservative Republicans!
You nailed it! JD has forced Lindsey Graham to pick up the RINO banner and carry the RINO banner while McCain tries to pull his own gonads out of the fire. This past year could have been REALLY ugly if Hayworth had not forced McCain to dig out his “I’m A Conservative!” baseball cap. If McCain wins, he’ll go back to being Mr. Reach Out Across The Aisle but he had to sacrifice a lot of his credibilty while trying to keep his job.
“What was the “other guys” baggage?”
Pomposity, arrogance, foot in mouth disease.
That is the best part of this senate race. Of course, there is always linseed carrying McC’s water for him but you are right. It will be difficult, but not impossible, for McC to go back to being the traitor.
Actually, I’m not too worried..look..this is McCain’s LAST term coming up..so if he goes too far back to the left..he’ll guarantee Graham a primary challenger...right now, I think it’s even money that Lindsay doesn’t run again...whether the GOP takes the Senate, or falls just short...they’ll get it f’sure in 2012...it’s gonna be must see C-span TV...Rubio, Toomey, Angle among others..add to C oburn and DeMint..heck..I’ll make a prediction right now, after the 2012 election..DeMint will be the majority leader..
Thanks for the response. I guess he was a jerk!
Love those sticky notes!
“What was the other guys baggage?
Pomposity, arrogance, foot in mouth disease.”
That’s more MCCainspeak and pure BS. Give an example of it by Hayworth ...you can’t! But McCain? PLENTY!
If McCain is elected for another 6 years of damage to this country, we WILL thank you for spreading his lies!
Capitol Hill staffers rate their bosses.
Worst Follower 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.)
Show Horse 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.)
Hottest Temper 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.) known to snap at staff when the cameras are off
HELLO ARIZONA!!!! You’ve made us proud with your stand against the tyrannical Obama Administration and open borders and your willingness to enforce our immigration laws!
But you’re making the same mistake you’ve made for 24 years...you are believing lies.....
The never ending stream of lies from John McCain and his supporters.
Indeed, Sen. McCain has been on the stump in Arizona of late, telling everyone how he supports SB 1070, how he wants to ‘secure the border’ and is against ‘amnesty’.
HE IS LYING, again!!! Stop letting this man use you!
How SOON we forget! But you better remember HIS WORDS!
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*America is still the land of opportunity, Senator John McCain recently said. And were not going to erect barriers and fences. June 26, 2007 National Review
*SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, R-ARIZ.: I do not favor using troops because they are not trained for it. They dont have the kind of qualifications necessary. I have strongly favored us using all the technical equipment that our military has including satellites, including aircraft and other technical means. May, 2001
*McCain continues to be well, McCain, throwing out liberal lines to catch the unsuspecting. Here he promises to push the failed Kyoto treaty.
I am committed as President to pursue the efforts to reduce greenhouse gasses immediately. That includes joining Kyoto as long as we have India and China involved. It would not be fair to the planet to say the two largest growing economies who are greenhouse gas emitters are not part of it.” April, 2010
*On the View: Meghan McCain Blasts Tea Parties
Sen. John McCains daughter says the movement is filled with innate racism.
Does ANYONE think Meghan isnt doing her fathers bidding???
*On the 2008 campaign trail: McCain had been asked how debate over the immigration bill was playing politically. In the short term, it probably galvanizes our base, he said. In the long term, if you alienate the Hispanics, youll pay a heavy price. Then he added, unable to help himself, By the way, I think the fence is least effective. But Ill build the goddamned fence if they want it.
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* May 29, 2003 interview: McCain: Amnesty has to be an important part because there are people who have lived in this country for 20, 30 or 40 years, who have raised children here and pay taxes here and are not citizens.
* Dec. 15, 2000 press release: McCain: I support the Latino and Immigrant Fairness Act (LIFA). Negotiations between the White House and the leadership, which endorsed more limited immigration reform, have resulted in a compromise.... this bill makes meaningful but insufficient progress on amnesty for those wrongly denied it.
Q: Should we change our Constitution to allow men like Mel Martinez, born in Cuba and Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, to stand here some night as candidates for president?
McCAIN: He and I have many similar attributes, so I have to seriously consider it.
Source: 2007 GOP primary debate, at Reagan library, hosted by MSNBC May 3, 2007
McCain: “ Those who live closest are the ones who can get here. Everyone in the world should have the opportunity through an orderly process to come to this country.”
Source: AZ Senate Debate, in Tucson Citizen Oct 16, 2004
McCain attacked Proposition 106, an Arizona statewide referendum that was being advanced by the so-called English-only movement. McCain told the teachers, Why would we want to pass some kind of initiative that a significant portion of our population considers an assault on their heritage?
McCain was one of 10 members of congress who were honored by the National Council of La Raza, a nationwide coalition of Hispanic organizations. In a speech at a ceremony in Washington, before an audience of 500, McCain again attacked English-only initiatives. The building of our great nation is not the work of immigrants from one or two countries, McCain said, Our nation and the English language have done quite well with Chinese spoken in California, German in Pennsylvania, Italian in New York, Swedish in Minnesota, and Spanish throughout the Southwest. I fail to see the cause for alarm now.
Source: Man of the People, by Paul Alexander, p.122-123 Jan 19, 2004
*McCain actually said this just a few weeks ago.
President Reagan granted amnesty to two million people and that was wrong,
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*This may be the ONLY time John McCain told the truth.
John McCain 2008 Prez election: no amnesty for illegal aliens could lead to France-style riots
...The man wasnt satisfied with McCains answer. He asked McCain why the U.S. couldnt execute large-scale deportations, as he had heard they did in France and other countries. The question seemed to pique McCain.
In case you hadnt noticed, the thousands of people who have been relegated to ghettos have risen up and burned cars in France, McCain said. Theyve got huge problems in France. They have tremendous problems. The police cant even go into certain areas in the suburbs of Paris. I dont want that in the suburbs of America.
McCain, the “maverick,” has been in Congress for 28 years, or since winning his first election in 1982. He is no longer fighting the establishment; he is the establishment. He personifies the compromise wing of the Republican Party, which has since become the dominant wing.
Hes an EMBARRASSMENT!
The thought of [John McCain] being president sends a cold chill down my spineSen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), also a senior member of the Appropriations panel, told the Boston Globe recently. He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me. Washington Post
That list should be sent to every citizen of Arizona. People shoud copy and paste that into an email of every person they know in Az and ask them to pass it on. I did.
Hope you don’t mind. :-)
One reason, voters are mostly stupid.
Fools ansd idiots are allowed to vote.
Thank you AuntB!
“Hayworth, in my opinion, is part of the establishment that needs to be swept out”
Well, then you haven’t been paying attention, have you?? Your ‘opinion’ has NOTHING to do with fact or history.
Check their records instead of believing McCain.
Indians, Lobbyists and Arizona Politics...OH MY!
TheTownCrier ^ | Jan. 29, 2010 | TheTownCrier
Posted on Fri Jan 29 10:05:26 2010 by AuntB
The scene is the Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut . The year 2000. The congressman has $100 chips stacked high, having a grand time at the crap table. He likes to gamble and isn’t afraid to show some temper when he loses. Along for the ride are his campaign manager and one of the two biggest lobbyist handing out campaign money from various Indian tribes who was also a 20 year friend of the legislator.
By now we’ve all heard about the money J.D. Hayworth received from an Indian tribe by way of disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff, who was one of the two big boys in Indian tribe money lobbying.
Pot, meet Kettle....
However, it was not J.D. Hayworth, nor Jack Abramoff at the crap table. It was Senator John McCain, campaign manager and Indian lobbyist in his own right, Rick Davis, along with Scott Reed, now the one remaining big time lobbyist handling the tribes and their money.
National Review wrote:
That would be this New York Times story, describing McCain playing the craps table with Rick Davis and Scott Reed. Davis is a longtime McCain friend and associate, currently his campaign manager, who runs a lobbying firm that represented Indian tribes with casino interests. Reed also worked as a lobbyist for Indian tribes, but he was also Bob Dole’s campaign manager in 1996, where McCain is a top surrogate
Another article further describes the scene.
” McCain was betting at a casino he oversaw as a member of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee, and he was doing so with the lobbyist who represents that casino.
The visit had been arranged by the lobbyist, Scott Reed, who works for the Mashantucket Pequots, a tribe that has contributed heavily to McCain’s campaigns and built Foxwoods into the world’s second-largest casino. Joining them was Rick Davis, McCain’s campaign manager. Their night of good fortune epitomized not just McCain’s affection for gambling, but also the close relationship he has built with the gambling industry and its lobbyists during his 25-year career in Congress.
As a two-time chairman of the Indian Affairs Committee, McCain has done more than any other member of Congress to shape the laws governing America’s casinos, helping to transform the once-sleepy Indian gambling business into a $26-billion-a-year behemoth with 423 casinos across the country.
As factions of the ferociously competitive gambling industry have vied for an edge, they have found it advantageous to cultivate a relationship with McCain or hire someone who has one, according to an examination based on more than 70 interviews and thousands of pages of documents.
McCain portrays himself as a Washington maverick unswayed by special interests, referring recently to lobbyists as “birds of prey.” Yet in his current campaign, more than 40 fund-raisers and top advisers have lobbied or worked for an array of gambling interests - including tribal and Las Vegas casinos, lottery companies, and online poker purveyors.
When rules being considered by Congress threatened a California tribe’s planned casino in 2005, McCain helped spare the tribe. Its lobbyist, who had no prior experience in the gambling industry, had a nearly 20-year friendship with McCain.”
Hayworth’s explanation of the Abramoff contribution is spelled out by him here. Hayworth got direct contributions of $2,250 from Abramoff, which was donated to charity, Hurricane Katrina relief. The Indian tribe in question insisted the money they gave by way of Abramoff be kept by Hayworth.
Hayworth’s exoneration of any criminal charges, by the US Dept. of Justice is in a letter from them here.
The McCain campaign is trying to use this non issue to destroy Hayworth, while indulging in bigger tribe money and underhanded backroom deals far surpassing anything Jack Abramoff pulled.
McCain has been chair of the Indian affairs committee since 2005, having served on it for many years prior. He used this position to bring down Abramoff, who was second only to handing out tribe dollars to McCain’s man Scott Reed. Some have speculated the move was not so much to rid politics of the likes of Abramoff, but to gain a monopoly on tribe campaign dollars. There’s even a book, ‘The Perfect Villain: John McCain and the Demonization of Jack Abramoff’ speculating McCain’s motives.
In one such article, Chuck Muth writes:
“When stories of Jack Abramoff taking various Indian tribes to the cleaners first hit the press, McCain - Chairman of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee and author of the un-American, anti-free speech McCain-Feingold campaign censorship law - decided this would be an excellent opportunity to settle some old scores, help out some old pals, and do what Sen. McCain does best...get media attention for Sen. McCain.
As the Washington insider newspaper The Hill reported in March 2004, McCain wrote at least one letter on Senate letterhead praising Reed to one of Abramoffs clients, the Saginaw Chippewa. Five days later, Abramoff was fired and the Saginaw Chippewa tribe retained Reed. In addition, columnist Bob Novak reported last December that on the eve of the investigations hearings, Reed handed some $200,000 in bundled contributions to McCain. Does this smell, or what?
The thing is, this McCain investigation looks like a real scandal in and of itself. If there are/were actual crimes involved, thats what the Justice Department is for, not the Senate Indian Affairs Committee. Instead, McCain appears to be using his committee and his position to (a) grandstand for his 2008 presidential campaign, (b) pay back conservatives who opposed him in 2000, and (c) scratch the back of a well-heeled lobbyist who is scratching right back. “
McCain/Feingold/Campaign Finance ‘reform’ , more than meets the eye.
In 2006, Amanda Carpenter of Human Events relays this story.
McCains Law Preserved Loophole for Tribal Contributions
“Sen. John McCain (R.-Ariz.), chairman of the Indian Affairs Committee, says the campaign finance reform law he sponsored in 2002 intentionally left open a loophole that allows Indian tribes to make campaign contributions to an unlimited number of candidates for federal office.
Before McCains law passed, most Americans were allowed to give an aggregate of only $25,000 to party committees and candidates for federal office in any two-year election cycle. Indian tribes were not subject to that cap. McCains law lifted the aggregate-contribution cap to $95,000 for ordinary American contributors, but declined to impose any cap at all on Indian tribes.
When I asked McCain last week why this was the case, he said, Because tribes are sovereign entities. They are treated on a government-to-government relationship, and were looking at that whole issue.
I asked, But it was an intentional thing? McCain replied, Oh yeah. Because they are sovereign nations unquote. We sign treaties with them.
When I pointed out that the U.S. does not allow contributions from foreign governments, McCain said, No, we dont. But theyre American citizens. So, its a unique kind of a status.
Evidently, Mr. McCain also believes he deserves ‘a unique kind of status’. And why not be the ‘anti-earmark’ champion when there is a ready source of campaign income flowing from lobbyists controlling Indian money?
How very ‘Maverick’ of you, Senator McCain.
FLUSH THE JOHN! McCain HAS to go!
(To the tune of Frankie & Johnny!)
Johnny and Teddy were Senators
On opposite sides of the aisle
They got together and drafted a bill
Guaranteed to make illegals smile
Amnesty was their game and they had no shame
Johnny and Senator Feingold
Gave campaign finance a try
But then the highest court in the land
Said the 1st amendment must apply
Gotta play by the rules now Johnny looks like a fool
Johnny and Mr. Obama
They both agree Gitmo should close
But bringing terrorists into the USA
Is a plan that we oppose
No, they dont belong and Johnnys got it all wrong
Now Johnny and Senator Lieberman
Got together on cap and trade
Anemic hands across the aisle
Gonna send the country to its grave
Its time to let him know old Johnnys gotta go
Johnny believes Global Warming
Limousine Liberals and all
Congressional junkets to Copenhagen
Everybodys havin a ball
Just ask Al Gore - Johnny knows the score
S & L Man Charlie Keating
He came to Johnny one day
Said the government boys are sniffing around
How much to make em go away?
Did Johnny take a bribe to join the Keating 5?
Now fast-forward 20 years later
Banks are in trouble again
Johnny says, Lets bail em out
Its just a trillion or maybe ten.
Lets put some wind in their sails cause theyre too big to fail.
We know theres oil in Alaska
Drilling wont cause any harm
But Johnny agrees with the tree-hugging geeks
Gas is gonna cost a leg and an arm
Johnny why cant you see whats good for you and me?
Now everyone knows about ACORN
They get lots of taxpayers dough
Prostitution rings and voter fraud
And home loans to any old schmoe
No matter ACORNs crimes Johnny thinks theyre just fine
Were tired of hearin your flip-flops
Were tired of hearin your lies
You may think were all dummies but you cant
Pull the wool over our eyes
Youre careers hit a snag - so start packin your bags
Cause Johnny, youve worn out your welcome
Its time to bid DC goodbye
Go write a book or learn to cook
And eat a little humble pie
Just ask Sheriff Joe he says you gotta go
Yeah, go Johnny, go its time to hit the road.
MUST SEE!! on YOU TUBE!
Sarah Palin came to Arizona in March and said she and the Tea Party all wanted McCain.
JD never got his sneakers on the ground before it was over.
Hayworth stated he was glad Barack Obama won the presidential election over McCain. If he hadn’t sealed his fate before, he did it then. This is not a defense of McCain, but if Hayworth says things like that, I fail to see what benefit it would be have Hayworth in his place.
Little "citizen" Deakin just barely saved, at least temporily, his home from foreclosure, failed to file his July report to the FEC on time (four days late)and who is reported to have business problems.
I'll take "loser" JD who if part of the establishment, would be part of the CONSERVATIVE establishment. JD's conservative rating while serving in the House as our Rep. was 97.6....not a loser in my book!He definitely wouldn't be part of the McCain/Graham RINO establishment.
We needed someone with name recognition to go up against McCain and we needed a good conservative! For too many years we here in AZ have had NO ONE running against McCain. He has had the Senate seat sewed up tighter than a tic on a dog.
McCain has spent 20 million trashing JD 24/7 and that tells me JD is no loser! JD has held McCain's feet to the fire during this campaign and McCain has been flip-flopping helter-skelter trying to get to the right of JD on the illegal issue (well the secure border issue anyway, as McCain STILL wants to legalize the multi-millions here).
You can have someone with no "establishment" background like little Jimmy Deakin, but I'll stick with a known 97.6 conservative-rated JD!
In the case of traitors like McLame, I whole heatedly support Conservatives withholding their votes for that office on election day.If that’s what it takes to get him out of office then so be it.We will make up the loss in other states and as long as there`s stalemate in the Senate then its all on hold till 2012 when, with valuable time to organize, we`ll be stronger in regards to the traitorous leftist wanna-be wing of the GOP and their Rat allies.
It’s very disappointing that the Republican Party keeps on nominating people like John McCain and his buddy Lindsey Graham. They are marginally better than Obama-loving Rats, but not by much. You would think the voters of Arizona and South Carolina would know enough to do better, but evidently not.
“It will be difficult, but not impossible, for McC to go back to being the traitor.”
Unfortunately, not difficult at all for him. This is his last six year term before retirement. Why would / should he care about conservative causes after the election? He will become a full bore Lib because there will be no consequences he cares about.
PLEASE Arizona, vote for McPain’s overdue retirement this Tuesday. We must eject all RINOs.
If you buy that you're just the type McCain likes, fall for anything anyone tell you.
You might want to start thinking for yourself while we still have a country.
Sarah Palin srewed Conservatives by backing McCain when she should have stayed out of the race. However, some good came of it, that act will haunt her forever. Presidental material? Hardly.
Isn’t Sarah McPalin also doing John’s bidding?
It doesn’t help that FoxNews and Greta Van Sustern have given him FREE political advertising—Greta has him on so often, she needs to change the name of her show to “The John McCain Show.”
For at least the past 15 years.
I agree. This is an extreme case, where extreme measures are necessary.
“His campaign has spent about $20 million, compared with Hayworths roughly $2.5 million.”
Of course the incumbent advantage is always gigantic thanks to the economic value of the power of Federal Politicians. The funny thing is if Hayworth could just get into congress he too would have such an advantage over any challenger.
Congress has been very successful sense the “new deal” in amassing to themselves the kind of power necessary to help them secure their own hold on power. So successful that rarely more then 10% of them ever loose reelection.
Excellent job you are doing on this thread, AuntB! Thanks.
If humans cannot rid themselves of these lifetime political parasites, maybe someone with Almighty authority could help out.....just sayin’. I believe deeply that we are the victim of our own arrogance. We believe that we are a self governing people, look at what it has brought us. To the exact same position as those living under a King. People were better off living under the Judges, which essentially were responsible to God alone for the rule over man. We had a nice system when the “rulers” felt responsible to the so called “higher power”.
Some ask how McCain can be doing as well as he is in this race..is it the money??
Money is a big part of it. Big donors by mobsters in Vegas, the La Raza crowd and private prisons who house illegal aliens (GEOs PAC gave only $5,000 each to the campaigns of Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Mike Huckabee.....http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Sidebar/Prison-firms-donate-thousands-to-Richardson-http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/john-hurley.asp?cycle=08 = $500 to McCain several times John Hurley, ceo GEO, contributes BIG to RNC and Charlie Christ.)
NOTE: Remember just a few days ago the prisoners who escaped one of McCains private prisons in AZ???
Lying is McCains hole card, always has been. By the time this election started, McCain had reinvented himself and his campaign website...Ive never been for amnesty, blah,blah, blah..... He went so far in Tuscon to declare Reagan was wrong for giving amnesty...
Heres another thing...he has purchased relevant keywords on the net, so no matter what youre looking for you get his campaign websites.
[snip]The Search For A Candidate (from the pres primary)
McCains people say that every dollar they spend on online search advertising brings in three or four bucks.
The national polls dont reflect it, but in one sense John McCain is the clear front runner in the presidential race: he leads in search-engine ads. When you type McCains name into Google, alongside or above the standard search results youll always get a text ada sponsored linkthat leads you to a Web site soliciting campaign contributions for the Arizona senator. What happens when you type Giuliani into Google? You get a paid link to the former New York mayors site. But you also get a McCain ad.
The other obvious search words involve search terms people use when researching specific issues. Here again, McCain is busy; his people say that at various times theyve bought 10,000 different words. Giuliani pops up with flat tax and illegal immigrant. But when I tried universal health care, nothing from any candidate came up. Vary it a little by typing health care reform and you get a paid link to John McCain
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