Posted on 08/21/2010 8:11:26 PM PDT by speciallybland
There's a nutjob Muslim working on making Iran a nuclear power and dominating the Middle East. National survival depends on the successful waging of war, because America is the last hope.
Nobody else has the courage. Nobody else is as free and cherishes that freedom as much. We are alone in a harsh world pitted against religious lunatics. 9/11 is a reminder of that.
Dictators and clerics hold the populations of Islamic countries hostage, denying them rights and brainwashing them.
The United States does not exist in a vacuum. We are not untouchable militarily, politically, or culturally. We have to fight both Islamism and communism on all three fronts. Sorry, but that's going to cost money.
Perhaps we could get perfectly healthy people off the welfare rolls and contribute to the economy and boost tax revenue instead of draining it. And perhaps we could pare down or eliminate the income tax and all the other taxes that discourage wealth creation, economic growth and investment.
It's all about inflows versus outflows.
No those that Calvin Coolidge ran on in 1933. Isolationism.
I guess you prefer the EU, Greece, and the Liberal Globalist system?
BTW Coolidge did not run in 1933...and under the Coolidge and “isolationaism” the US economy was doing well. Maybe you prefer the Greek economy....the “success story of Globalism” /s
Involvement in WWI was the catalyst for WWII.
And about every socialist error we have been subject to.”
You don’t really believe this crap, do you?
The roots of WW II all can be traced to WW I and its aftermath
Globalism leads to Socialism. After the “isolationism” of Coolidge....the Globalist FDR wasted no time in recognizing the USSR after taking office in 1933.
If you studied any history....you would see that Rachel is correct
Isolationism in today’s world is not possible and will never be realized in this world ever again. The demons have been let out of Pandora’s Box and cannot be put back in. The changes in technology have made the world vastly different and we are on a date with destiny.
But NOT our involvement in the conflict. If that were the case, the moment Germany split Poland we would have been on boats going to England and France.
And if you studied any history, you’d see that if Coolidge hadn’t hidden behind the Atlantic Ocean in the 30s, PERHAPS 100 Million people would not have died in World War II.
Not that the paulistas care about “others” though...
WWII was America's fault now?
p.s. Coolidge left office in '29.
You’re right.
When it was good in the US in the 20s, we did absolutely nothing to ensure we were ready for the next conflict. I got the wrong decade.
Believe it or not, and you should, Ferdinand Foch more or less called World War II. He was off of the start date by 65 days give or take. And that was in 1919 when he made the prediction.
And where did I say World War II was America’s fault? Although if you want to really look at it, Woodrow Wilson’s failed League of Nations (and the US and Europeans failed enforcement of the terms upon Germany during the 30s) DID entice Hitler into flaunting the World War I terms so if you DON’T want to go down that line of reasoning, I recommend you stop there.
When the victors of World War I gave Germany a list of terms certain to bring it to its knees, the victors needed to be capable and willing to ENFORCE those terms. Every President (and European leader) from 1921 to 1938 unilaterally failed to do so.
Nobody else has the courage. Nobody else is as free and cherishes that freedom as much. We are alone in a harsh world pitted against religious lunatics. 9/11 is a reminder of that.
I totally agree with you. It's very scary that the Paulites just won't see this.
We used to have Israel in our corner but Obama is taking care of that. Hopefully, our next president can shore up our allies instead of pushing them away.
I'm sorry when you said "if Coolidge hadn’t hidden behind the Atlantic Ocean in the 30s, PERHAPS 100 Million people would not have died in World War II" I inferred that you meant we had some ability to prevent the war from starting; therefore, our inaction CAUSED the war. What did you mean?
I love it when revisionist historians look at America's power now and imagine that that power existed in the 20's and 30's - it didn't. The huge american military was dismantled almost immediately after WWI because Congress and the People didn't want to pay to maintain it.
On paper, France had one of the strongest armies in the 30's. We, on the other hand, conducted military exercises with sticks for weapons and pick up trucks for tanks. No one had a greater motivation and more material ability to stop Hitler early than France; if anyone failed to stop Hitler early, it was they.
It was Wilson’s ideals that got us into the league of nations mess in the first place.
It was the French and the British who put such a burden on Germany after World War I that it made the scene ripe for a lunatic like Hitler to take over.
The French problem wasn’t materiel, it was strategy in World War II. You can have the best troops in the world and the most advanced weaponry, but if your tactics suck, you aren’t getting anywhere.
The blame doesn’t fall solely on the US, but the US shares a minor part of it. We weren’t the major players, but we had a hand in it. Sorry if that doesn’t jive with your worldview.
France had a better army on paper. Germany had equivalent technology and superior tactics, motivation and leadership. General Heinz Guderian was one of the great generals of all time who was the inventor of Blitzkreig using fast moving armor and airpower with devastating effect. His conquest of France in 1940 is one the great military feats of all time.
Everyone seems to forget the reparations Germany imposed on France after the Franco-Prussian War. That's why the Allies felt justified in crushing Germany after WWI. There were many opposed to the harsh terms, foreseeing another war as an inevitable result.
The French problem wasn’t materiel, it was strategy in World War II. You can have the best troops in the world and the most advanced weaponry, but if your tactics suck, you aren’t getting anywhere.
Germany started to re-arm very quickly after WWI - even before Hitler happened along. They were training in, of all places, the Soviet Union. I can't believe the allies weren't aware of this and it should have been stopped.
The time to have stepped on Hitler was before the Anschluss or during the Sudetenland crisis - long before Poland or the invasion of France. France had the men and weapons at hand to do something then - it was a failure of will.
Even before that, had the Wiemar gov't ventilated Hitler's head in 1923, for treason in the "Beer Hall Putsch" it would have saved everyone trouble.
"The blame doesn’t fall solely on the US, but the US shares a minor part of it. We weren’t the major players, but we had a hand in it. Sorry if that doesn’t jive with your worldview."
Hey, you're welcome to your worldview, but your original assertion was the U.S. could have prevented 100 million deaths somehow and I reacted to that, which I believe is a false assertion.
I've always believed that the Allies blew it long before France was actually invaded. They ignored clear evidence that Germany was re-arming and they did nothing until it was too late.
There is no question that the Germans initially had superior tactics, once they started the war.
“I’ve always believed that the Allies blew it long before France was actually invaded. They ignored clear evidence that Germany was re-arming and they did nothing until it was too late.”
Very true and Winston Churchill as a member of Parliment was trying to make the world aware of the fact. The secret rearmament of Germany was one of the keys to their economic recovery.
Isn't Virginia one of the states that voted for Obama in 2008?
Maybe you need to reexamine your priorities...
VA has rexamined its priorities and is now leading this nation back to conservatism by example and performance. VA voted for Obozo in 2008 but was over him in 2009 electing one of the most conservative statewide tickets in VA history by huge landslides. Our attorney general Ken Cuccinelli and Gov Bob McDonnell are leading the fight against Obozocare, illegal immigration and many other issues on the national front. As of now Obozo has 59-63% disapproval rating here and will not come close in 2012 if he makes it there. The RuPaulites are still fringe losers and make up an inconsequential part of the conservative electorate. The conservative grass roots movement is strong driving out both RINOs and RhuPaulite kooks.
Maybe you should just shut your yap and let Kentucky handle its own elections. How bout that?
The Ron Paul right is insignificant and had no effect one way or the other in the 2008 in VA. It made no difference whatsoever. It is a fringe movement which will have no effect on the politics of this country in any significant way.
I will say and comment as I please as it is my 1st Ammendment Right. I dare you to go try and stop me.
Pull your covers up over your head and keep saying that over and over and over again there Skippy. Rand, Sarah, and the rest of the Tea Party is about to sweep your friends in the Bob Dole wing of the Republican Party into the ash heap of history.
You and Senators Snowe, Collins, and McCain can enjoy watching real lovers of the US Constitution restore it to it's rightful supremacy.
Nothing but love for ya,
L
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