Skip to comments.Without George W. Bush, division tears apart the online left
Posted on 08/22/2010 4:38:43 AM PDT by markomalley
In the old days of the Bush administration, life in a online liberal discussion forum was great. Everybody was having a great time bashing the president and marveling at each others brilliance. But in the age of Obama, these once fertile fields of partisan rancor have been tainted by ideological dissent.
The latest news from Democratic Underground (DU) is a perfect example of whats happening to the left online.
Earlier this year, the moderators of DU angered users of the forum after they issued a lengthy censored list of online behavior that would be banned and deleted from the site.
Now, matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short.
In the face of dissent and division, website administrator Skinner took to the web to issue a angst filled lament over the loss of the old DU
You dont like what DU has become. Maybe you have very specific complaints, or maybe you dont really know exactly what it is that you dont like. But what you do know is that you wish it was more like the old DU. A community. A place that was special. Where we had big disagreements, but at least you felt like we all had something in common.
Yeah, I miss that DU, too.
I miss it so much that it makes my heart ache. I lie awake at night agonizing over it. I can barely bring myself to read my email anymore. Im burned out and tired.
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Heres the problem in a nutshell: Back when Bush was President, he represented the center of gravity in politics the focal point that determined Which side are you on? and everyone on DU actually was on the same side. Now that Barack Obama is President, he has become the center of gravity. I think its clear that we still broadly agree on the issues, but we disagree on how best to get there, how long it should take, and how much compromise we are willing to accept. Those are the disagreements that matter now. To be blunt, we are not all on the same side anymore.
Imagine if during the Bush Administration, Democratic Underground had welcomed people who thought the president was doing a bad job, *and* people who thought the president was doing a good job. DU would have sucked. Sure, it might have been worth the effort to stop by every once in a while to argue with conservative idiots, but nobody would have felt like DU was their home, their safe-haven, their community.
So what is a lefty web haven to do when change causes division? Skinner proposes the following: I am starting to think that much more radical change is necessary.
I’m just now wondering if one big difference between the left and right is that the left is “situational” about a lot more than the right. In other words the right bases their analysis on stand-alone principles and the left bases theirs on principles that change from situation to situation. It’s like situational ethics but involves more than just ethics.
Also, they will repeat that “Something must be done”. When I ask why, they just drop their jaw in disbelief, because to them, it is obvious. Even if *something* makes things worse for them.
Control freaks with a case of OCD and a huge dose of narcissism.
Yeah *the* problem isn’t that the right has a superiority complex, it’s that the left has an inferiority complex.
It's only a complex if it is irrational.
Well *they* accuse *us* of having a superiority complex, and yes their solution for their feelings of inferiority (it’s everyone else’s fault, everyone else must help them out) is irrational.
Okay but be sure to check your FreepMail.
“Over-the-top assertions of bad faith” in Obama, or “advocating voting against Democrats, or in favor of third-party or GOP candidates; broad-brush smears against Democrats generally; broad expressions of contempt toward Democrats generally.”
Sounds like Journ0List.
I guess you haven’t been flamed when you didn’t tow the line on FR :)
FR sets a DOLLAR goal, the DUmmies set a 1000 donation goal regardless of size
if they aren't even hitting that, they are in real trouble...
I don’t think you can call yourself a Freeper until someone has pointed you to JimRob’s FR charter and flamed your post for being Outside The Pale.
Well, they are also universal in the desire to restrict speech, and that all most be dependent on officers of the state for personal protection.
Banning the F-word?
The irony is that DU is corporate-sponsored.
Exactly right about feminists.
I was looking at the Songfacts page for Under My Thumb by the Rolling Stones, and someone had a pretty long post on how the song is demeaning to women and is not very enlightened. The guy who wrote that completely missed the point of the song and took the lyrics as some anti-woman screed.
Ping to Post #10, which is begging for your “nailed it” graphic, SC
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