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Without George W. Bush, division tears apart the online left
Washington Examiner (a print newspaper) ^ | 8/22/2010 | Charlie Spiering

Posted on 08/22/2010 4:38:43 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Moose4
The duhmmies will never understand that straight jacket regulations hurt websites as well as economies.
41 posted on 08/22/2010 6:30:12 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: markomalley
So what is a lefty web haven to do when change causes division? Skinner proposes the following: “I am starting to think that much more radical change is necessary.”

Ok, what's the "much more radical change" the guy is proposing?

I kinda figured this was where the Dem blogosphere/netroots were going to go. The history of "Progressive" movements is one of grassroots energy being mobilized, but then severely controlled and channeled into action through a strict command hierarchy run by a select few. Go against the hierarchy, and you are ostracized and made an outcast from the group.

This is how labor unions operate. The "feminist movement", "environmental movement", "civil rights movement", etc, etc, etc.

The Nutroots are no different. They are primarily centered around blogs like Kos and MyDD which are tightly controlled and managed, only allowing a select few to actually post substantive material for consumption by the masses.

DU is more open (relative term) in terms of allowing broad equality of posting among the participants - but their authoritarian measures to stifle dissent really functions as an output-control method counterpart to the input controls on the blogs. HuffPo falls somewhere in-between.

From my experience, the GOP/Conservative side of the web is much more open, permissive, accepting and tolerant of "dissent" than the Dem/Left. Maybe it's just a function of the Conservative belief in the sovereignty of the individual rather than the collective (which is what the Left is really all about). Sure, at FR we have our Viking Kitties/Zots, but that's more of a troll-control mechanism rather than a means to ensure strict conformity to some narrow definition of what a "Conservative" is/should be.
42 posted on 08/22/2010 6:32:01 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: markomalley

I’m just now wondering if one big difference between the left and right is that the left is “situational” about a lot more than the right. In other words the right bases their analysis on stand-alone principles and the left bases theirs on principles that change from situation to situation. It’s like situational ethics but involves more than just ethics.


43 posted on 08/22/2010 6:36:09 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: I still care
True.

Also, they will repeat that “Something must be done”. When I ask why, they just drop their jaw in disbelief, because to them, it is obvious. Even if *something* makes things worse for them.

Control freaks with a case of OCD and a huge dose of narcissism.

44 posted on 08/22/2010 6:36:17 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: I still care
Yeah it's problem isn't that the right has a superiority complex, it's that the left has an inferiority complex.
45 posted on 08/22/2010 6:40:28 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: All

Whoops;

Yeah *the* problem isn’t that the right has a superiority complex, it’s that the left has an inferiority complex.


46 posted on 08/22/2010 6:42:00 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
Yeah it's problem isn't that the right has a superiority complex, it's that the left has an inferiority complex.

It's only a complex if it is irrational.

47 posted on 08/22/2010 6:42:34 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley

and the RATS, take another one in the..............................HA ha!!!

48 posted on 08/22/2010 6:48:32 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: markomalley

Well *they* accuse *us* of having a superiority complex, and yes their solution for their feelings of inferiority (it’s everyone else’s fault, everyone else must help them out) is irrational.


49 posted on 08/22/2010 6:48:41 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Okay but be sure to check your FreepMail.


50 posted on 08/22/2010 6:57:51 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Taking it to the next level with coupons)
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To: markomalley

DU rule:

“Over-the-top assertions of bad faith” in Obama, or “advocating voting against Democrats, or in favor of third-party or GOP candidates; broad-brush smears against Democrats generally; broad expressions of contempt toward Democrats generally.”

Sounds like Journ0List.


51 posted on 08/22/2010 6:59:57 AM PDT by maggief
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To: mojitojoe
Schadenfreude Ping
52 posted on 08/22/2010 7:01:24 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (People I know have papers for their mongrels.)
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To: Moose4

I guess you haven’t been flamed when you didn’t tow the line on FR :)


53 posted on 08/22/2010 7:01:53 AM PDT by mel
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To: markomalley
wow!!! and the DUmmies do NOT run their fundraiser like FR does

FR sets a DOLLAR goal, the DUmmies set a 1000 donation goal regardless of size

if they aren't even hitting that, they are in real trouble...

54 posted on 08/22/2010 7:04:00 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: mel

I don’t think you can call yourself a Freeper until someone has pointed you to JimRob’s FR charter and flamed your post for being Outside The Pale.


55 posted on 08/22/2010 7:19:45 AM PDT by Notary Sojac ("Goldman Sachs" is to "US economy" as "lamprey" is to "lake trout")
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To: Jemian
(unless it is for murdering unborn children and those who are too helpless to take care of themselves).

Well, they are also universal in the desire to restrict speech, and that all most be dependent on officers of the state for personal protection.

56 posted on 08/22/2010 7:20:59 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: tanknetter
Ok, what's the "much more radical change" the guy is proposing?

Banning the F-word?

57 posted on 08/22/2010 7:21:40 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: kanawa

The irony is that DU is corporate-sponsored.


58 posted on 08/22/2010 7:30:21 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Moose4

Exactly right about feminists.

I was looking at the Songfacts page for Under My Thumb by the Rolling Stones, and someone had a pretty long post on how the song is demeaning to women and is not very enlightened. The guy who wrote that completely missed the point of the song and took the lyrics as some anti-woman screed.


59 posted on 08/22/2010 7:34:05 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Westbrook; SunkenCiv

Ping to Post #10, which is begging for your “nailed it” graphic, SC


60 posted on 08/22/2010 7:43:51 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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