Skip to comments.How Fox Betrayed Petraeus
Posted on 08/23/2010 7:12:34 AM PDT by Cardhu
THE ground zero mosque, as you may well know by now, is not at ground zero. Its not a mosque but an Islamic cultural center containing a prayer room. Its not going to determine President Obamas political future or the elections of 2010 or 2012. Still, the battle that has broken out over this project in Lower Manhattan on the hallowed ground of a shuttered Burlington Coat Factory store one block from the New York Dolls Gentlemens Club will prove eventful all the same. And the consequences will be far more profound than any midterm election results or any of the grand debates now raging 24/7 over the parameters of tolerance, religious freedom, and the real estate gospel of location, location, location.
Heres whats been lost in all the screaming. The prime movers in the campaign against the ground zero mosque just happen to be among the last cheerleaders for Americas nine-year war in Afghanistan. The wrecking ball theyre wielding is not merely pounding Park51, as the project is known, but is demolishing Americas already frail support for that war, which is dedicated to nation-building in a nation whose most conspicuous asset besides opium is actual mosques.
So virulent is the Islamophobic hysteria of the neocon and Fox News right abetted by the useful idiocy of the Anti-Defamation League, Harry Reid and other cowed Democrats that it has also rendered Gen. David Petraeuss last-ditch counterinsurgency strategy for fighting the war inoperative. How do you win Muslim hearts and minds in Kandahar when you are calling Muslims every filthy name in the book in New York?
Youd think that American hawks invested in the Afghanistan surge would not act against their own professed interests. But they couldnt stop themselves from placing cynical domestic politics over country.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Have at it :)
Preposterously Rich propaganda.
At the very least, the name, Cordoba House, must be changed.
That is the first step in a good will gesture from the muslims.
It is the muslims who must show good faith for the actions of their fellow confreres, not the other way around.
Not “blocks away”.
Too close for comfort.
Based on that editorial, I suppose the NYT is now OK with a gun store being opened across from Columbine High School.
HEY BIAS CORRUPT NY TIMES, it is a MOSQUE as well as a community center which I might add there is no community to serve there and there is a mosque near there anyway.
Also why not ask can anyone go to this community center like the YMCA and if women non muslims can go and swim with men, can they work out there in what they want to wear etc.
Also this strip club , well no strippers killed thousands, so what if it was a coat store, so frigging what, why try and say that to just make this a non issue.
This will hurt your messiah , even down here I know a couple who have no said that because of this they will not vote for him.
He and his wife are also saying one thing to us and another to the muslims overseas in their language.
NY times the joke of the press
Oh so now the NYT is following the AP’s lead that it’s really not a “Ground Zero” mosque?
The puppeteers must have worked overtime this weekend
Ahh, the classic "keep telling a lie until it is accepted as the truth" trick.
jourNOlists have met and drawn their new lies to cover for islam and their messiah
There is a mosque 5 blocks away. There is UTTERLY no rational reason for a Mosque here. It is a form of "hate speech". It is sole purpose to inflame and divide.
If, as the sponsors of this monster claim, it is "to promote diversity and tolerance" then they would MOVE the thing because of the harshly negative reaction it provokes in the vast majority of people.
That they refuse to do that show it is NOT about "Diversity" but about the symbolic value of the location.
Or a Catholic Church and a Jewish Synagogue at that rock they call mecca. I'm sure that wouldn't get the muzzie panties in a twist, would it?
Misogynism in the name of religion doesn't fly here - nor do we want anything to do with these backward pukes and their form of "law"!
Here's Frank Rich's logic:
Islam is a religion of peace.
Our military is fighting against radical Islam.
Using our right to free speech protesting the mosque makes the members of this religion of peace angry.
The members of this religion of peace will respond to our exercising our right to self-determination by fighting our military...which is fighting against radical Islam.
Don't think you thought this one through, Frank.
Ok, but they want to play that caterwauling 5 times a day, oh but it is not a mosque. They are praying there now 5 times a day, oh but it is not a mosque.
The building was damaged by one of the planes in the 911 attack, but it is not at ground zero.
Leftism is a mental disorder. As usual, the Left suppants fact and reality with make believe wishful thinking. Thank God not all people are inflicted with Chamberlain's disease.
The mere fact that a large piece of one of the hijacked aircraft ended up crashing through the roof of the building makes it Ground Zero, period.
A huge difference between the beliefs of Christians and Muslims is that to Christians it’s a sin to tell a lie. Telling the truth is one of the fruits of the Spirit. OTHO, Muslims use lies as a pillar of their faith. They are taught from an early age that it’s perfectly acceptable to lie through your teeth if it advances your cause.
Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. As my Mom was fond of saying “Actions speak louder than words!” Amen.
I don’t recall the specifics, but I do remember an example of their willingness to lie to further their goal. In this instance they called for negotiations with an enemy, agreed to a cease fire, and when the enemy showed up, under a white flag, they were slaughtered. I don’t need to know much more than that about the bastards to know that nothing they say can be trusted or believed.
I agree with you, “Too close for comfort.” The fact is regardless of what they call it, it would be a trophy mosque for them, and haters of America would flock to it just to know they were poking a finger in the eye of America and especially the 3,000 plus families who still grieve for loved ones murdered that day.
It’s not like we have to trust what Muslims say about their intent. There are numerous European countries that fell for their BS, and no amount of MFM spin can prevent us from seeing and understanding the consequences. And they are feeding us the same line of BS. We have no one to blame but ourselves if we call prey to it.
The battle lines are drawn, and even if the Left doesn’t comprehend the danger we’re in, it’s real,very real!
Dont't tell that to the Pope he would be upset. Just when he is witch hunting the nuns and playing Sgt Schultz to the bad boys.
How Fox Betrayed Petraeus
New York Times ^ | August 21st 2010 | Frank Rich
The glory of the First Amendment at work.
You can “spot the looney” like Frank Rich because they have the freedom
to out themselves in public.
Where’s the barf alert?
This is what really galls him.
Its not going to determine President Obamas political future or
the elections of 2010 or 2012.
I hope Frank Rich keeps this up.
And that it will lead to a repeat of what happened on election day
(a debacle for the Democrats)
I mistakenly flipped to “Morning Joe” this morning to hear Joe Scarborough say something like “Frank Rich got this perfectly on the mark...” That’s all you need to hear to know that Frank Rich has once again authored a “hate America” and “blame the conservatives” piece that will be wildly popular in the MSM and lefty blogosphere.
Hey, Frank. Get back in the closet.
But Zero likes the name Cordoba. He cited it during his infamous "Cairo Speech."
"Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance. We see it in the history of Andalusia and Cordoba during the Inquisition."
‘At the very least, the name, Cordoba House, must be changed.’
It was. It is now the ‘Park 51 Project’.
Thanks for the pic. The landing gear makes it ground zero.
Thanks for the link,
He's also willing to ignore that the Imam running this scam is an Hamas supporter and that Hamas supports the Mosque along with Rich. 100 Mosques are in NYC. They don't need a new $100 million one near the site of the mass murders these Islamists barbarians perpetrated. Also, where is the money coming from for this structure? Why don't the Saudis send that money to help the Pakistanis who are flood victims? Why do infidels always have to bail out the suffering Muslims?
Many of the nuns from "mainstream" orders being investigated really are witches. Just ask them. I work with some.
The homosexual "bad boys" have have been trying to get revenge on the Pope for kicking their tails when he was head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The homos were obsessed with Cardinal Ratzinger; I was there when hundreds of them tried to silence his speech in NYC in 1987.
Socialist agitators are so evil, the Reichstag Fire is pretty much their only move: Blame your enemies for what you yourself didin this case, sodomy and covering up sodomy. The Lefty press is trying to blame the Pope for the predatory sodomy their own Lefty-priest friends were able to get away with under the protection of Lefty bishops. Those were the peacenik, swishy, politician-kissing, abortion-tolerating bishops the press was always praising for daringly defying the Vatican. These were the same bishops Cardinal Ratzinger ousted for corruption and for protecting sexual predators.
The whole thing reminds you of homosexuals blaming the normal world for the spread of AIDS. I think there's a line in Proverbs about how much vice hates virtue.
Yep. If this is a community center meant for ‘outreach,’ by all means, Christians, Jews, Buddhists and atheists must be welcomed. And, they should be welcomed in their bikinis if that’s what they choose to wear. Maybe a tailgate party outside.
Can you imagine the mental contortions Rich and his fellow travelers have to go through to come to their positions? Has to be exhausting.
“jourNOlists have met and drawn their new lies to cover for islam and their messiah”
the “Ministry of Truth” is having a harder and harder time convincing the American people
Watch for this new mantra to become as oft-repeated in the MSM as the "Cheney gives gravitas" mantra was when GWB announced his candidacy for president. Never mind that the Muslim version of "love thy neighbor as thyself" is to reach out to that neighbor with one hand beckoning him to worship Allah, and the other on a detonator of a bomb carefully designed to blow him to smithereens if he is too foolish to accept the "invitation"!
Tied in with the desire to build the memorial in Pa. in the shape of a cresent and face east. This is one time when we speak with one voice and drown out these traitors.
“560 feet [away] “
Good point — and how far away is this spot from the debris which fell out from the Towers?
I would assume that it was in the footprint of the destruction.
Yes, unfortunately Mr. Rich, some of us know how dishonest he can be, so we check that page--and find that it states: "The tower of as many as 15 stories will house a mosque, a 500-seat auditorium, and a pool. Its leaders say it will be modeled on the Y.M.C.A. and Jewish Community Center in Manhattan."
Poor dishonest little Rich boy.
Doesn’t really need a barf alert. You can tell by the title that it’s going to ruin the carpet. All that remains is to read it and find out by what convoluted logic Rich is going to make his “point.”
It seems to have escaped his notice that
1. We are fighting in Afghanistan to defeat the imposition of Sharia law on the Afghan people.
2. We are fighting the mosque to defeat the imposition of Sharia law here.
The Muslims that Petraeus is trying to recruit would be on our side in this. If anything is going to persuade them not to help us, it is the Wikileaks exposure of their names in public, something I’m sure the leak-lovin New York Times applauds.
The mosque supporters are doing backwards somersaults to twist this very plain issue around to their advantage—note Rauf’s wife saying it is metastasized anti-Semitism!
The terrorists have gone one step too far and refuse to admit it. They have revealed how little they know us. And how much they hate us. They are starting to see a side of America they should have known existed. So now every lie and twist must be employed to try to undo what they have done.
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